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February 8th, 2009
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nightangel73 wrote:
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It's even more evil than most parasites, since it has the ability to alter the biological processes of the host to suit itself, ie altering its immune system to prevent it being rejected.



Since it is so evil can't understand why women don't work harder to not get pregnant in the first place.


You know, me either. I cannot imagine how anyone could voluntarily decide to do that to themselves, or go through with it if it happens by accident. But go figure, eh?
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replied February 8th, 2009
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nightangel73 wrote:
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It's even more evil than most parasites, since it has the ability to alter the biological processes of the host to suit itself, ie altering its immune system to prevent it being rejected.



Since it is so evil can't understand why women don't work harder to not get pregnant in the first place.
Well to work harder according to you, would be to NEVER have sex, even if we are married or in a stable relationship. Working harder? It is not easy. Try being 22, telling a doctor that you NEVER want children. Try telling this to multiple doctors. NA, get out of your fantasy land and join the REAL WORLD where not everything is black and white. And FYI, I have never called a fetus a parasite, parasitic yes, not a parasite.
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replied February 9th, 2009
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It's me that calls them parasites. Evil, nasty, disgusting parasites!
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replied February 9th, 2009
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nightangel73 wrote:
oopoopoop wrote:


It's even more evil than most parasites, since it has the ability to alter the biological processes of the host to suit itself, ie altering its immune system to prevent it being rejected.



Since it is so evil can't understand why women don't work harder to not get pregnant in the first place.
Well to work harder according to you, would be to NEVER have sex, even if we are married or in a stable relationship. Working harder? It is not easy. Try being 22, telling a doctor that you NEVER want children. Try telling this to multiple doctors. NA, get out of your fantasy land and join the REAL WORLD where not everything is black and white. And FYI, I have never called a fetus a parasite, parasitic yes, not a parasite.


Mother extremely very few women never want to have children. If those where the only ones having abortions the abortion rate would be very low. The biggest problem is the ones having sex irresponsibly like my coworker who admited to me got this lady pregnant with him being totally careless.
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replied February 9th, 2009
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I think you'd be surprised by the growing number of childfree by choice women, NA. We're growing in numbers as more and more women realize that they aren't obligated to reproduce if they don't want to. Yes, we're a minority but we aren't as rare as you seem to think. You make us sound like an endangered species or something. giggle
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replied February 9th, 2009
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nightangel73 wrote:
motherofhighspiritedones wrote:
nightangel73 wrote:
oopoopoop wrote:


It's even more evil than most parasites, since it has the ability to alter the biological processes of the host to suit itself, ie altering its immune system to prevent it being rejected.



Since it is so evil can't understand why women don't work harder to not get pregnant in the first place.
Well to work harder according to you, would be to NEVER have sex, even if we are married or in a stable relationship. Working harder? It is not easy. Try being 22, telling a doctor that you NEVER want children. Try telling this to multiple doctors. NA, get out of your fantasy land and join the REAL WORLD where not everything is black and white. And FYI, I have never called a fetus a parasite, parasitic yes, not a parasite.

Mother extremely very few women never want to have children. If those where the only ones having abortions the abortion rate would be very low. The biggest problem is the ones having sex irresponsibly like my coworker who admited to me got this lady pregnant with him being totally careless.
Hmm, please tell me where I said the ONLY women getting abortions were the ones who preferred to be childfree? That was only an example. Here are a few more...birth control failures, condoms breaking, rape, incest, improper use of birth control, misinformation about how to use birth control, financial problems, relationship problems, maternal problems, fetal problems... all reasons women get abortions. Funny thing is, most women who NEVER or don't want kids at the time ACTUALLY use birth control. And if it fails, they abort. So you saying to do more to protect them, what more can they do? Get their tubes tied to satisfy YOU and YOUR morals? What about the woman who is using birth control but it fails? What if she gets pregnant? Are you saying its her fault for trying to protect herself? Are you saying she should have done more, like a radical hysterectomy or tubal? And BTW, this day in age, less and less people are having sex irresponsibly. Because birth control is getting easier to obtain. And I think, since it is more widely used now, we are seeing that it can fail more and more often. Time to come up with better pills. You seem to think that most women out there are having sex carelessly and don't give a caca about what happens to them. You seem to think most pro-choice women don't care about the fetus. Its not that. Most prochoicers (with a few exceptions) DO care, and want to lower the rates.
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replied February 9th, 2009
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motherofhighspiritedones wrote:
nightangel73 wrote:
motherofhighspiritedones wrote:
nightangel73 wrote:
oopoopoop wrote:


It's even more evil than most parasites, since it has the ability to alter the biological processes of the host to suit itself, ie altering its immune system to prevent it being rejected.



Since it is so evil can't understand why women don't work harder to not get pregnant in the first place.
Well to work harder according to you, would be to NEVER have sex, even if we are married or in a stable relationship. Working harder? It is not easy. Try being 22, telling a doctor that you NEVER want children. Try telling this to multiple doctors. NA, get out of your fantasy land and join the REAL WORLD where not everything is black and white. And FYI, I have never called a fetus a parasite, parasitic yes, not a parasite.

Mother extremely very few women never want to have children. If those where the only ones having abortions the abortion rate would be very low. The biggest problem is the ones having sex irresponsibly like my coworker who admited to me got this lady pregnant with him being totally careless.
Hmm, please tell me where I said the ONLY women getting abortions were the ones who preferred to be childfree? That was only an example. Here are a few more...birth control failures, condoms breaking, rape, incest, improper use of birth control, misinformation about how to use birth control, financial problems, relationship problems, maternal problems, fetal problems... all reasons women get abortions. Funny thing is, most women who NEVER or don't want kids at the time ACTUALLY use birth control. And if it fails, they abort. So you saying to do more to protect them, what more can they do? Get their tubes tied to satisfy YOU and YOUR morals? What about the woman who is using birth control but it fails? What if she gets pregnant? Are you saying its her fault for trying to protect herself? Are you saying she should have done more, like a radical hysterectomy or tubal? And BTW, this day in age, less and less people are having sex irresponsibly. Because birth control is getting easier to obtain. And I think, since it is more widely used now, we are seeing that it can fail more and more often. Time to come up with better pills. You seem to think that most women out there are having sex carelessly and don't give a caca about what happens to them. You seem to think most pro-choice women don't care about the fetus. Its not that. Most prochoicers (with a few exceptions) DO care, and want to lower the rates.



Women should have tubal ligation or vasectomy not to satisfy my morals but to not kill another innocent human.

If birth controls fails then have the baby. I use birth control and if it fails I would just have the baby.

I did not meant to say that most women have sex carelessly. I meant that most women who have abortions do have sex carelessly.
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Hey, did you know that in order to have your tubes tied/ have a hysterectomy, you have to be over 23 years old and have AT LEAST 2 CHILDREN(in Ohio, at least)!!????!? So, what you're saying is, a woman could get raped TWICE and get pregnant, but YOU expect her to carry out those both pregnancies WITH possible complications? How cruel are YOU? Now, THAT'S what I call an inconsiderate, ignorant jerk. I really hope YOU could go through that and THEN open your idiotic mouth.
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replied February 10th, 2009
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nightangel73 wrote:



Women should have tubal ligation or vasectomy not to satisfy my morals but to not kill another innocent human.

If birth controls fails then have the baby. I use birth control and if it fails I would just have the baby.

I did not meant to say that most women have sex carelessly. I meant that most women who have abortions do have sex carelessly.


That is your opinion, and your right to act that way. From my point of view, aborting an early stage pregnancy is a simple medical procedure. It is simply not a big deal, has no moral implications, and is not something that a complete stranger should have any opinion about. Women should have a tubal if they don't want to bother taking birth control, want to be sure not to get pregnant, and never want any (more) children. Men should have vasectomies because they don't want (more) children, and to make sure that no one can "oops" them. I certainly think that any man who does not approve of abortion should have a vasectomy, because anyone he impregnates has the right to abort, and if he doesn't want that, it's the only way to be sure.

How "careless" someone is, is completely irrelevant. Just like if someone has their teeth fixed because they were careless, or gets ingrown toenails because they were careless. Anyone else's sex life, and abortion, is none of you business.
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replied February 11th, 2009
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oopoopoop wrote:
Anyone else's sex life, and abortion, is none of you business.


It's not my business but I can give my opinion about it whenever and wherever I want to.
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replied February 11th, 2009
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nightangel73 wrote:
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Anyone else's sex life, and abortion, is none of you business.


It's not my business but I can give my opinion about it whenever and wherever I want to.


Well of course. But your opinion doesn't matter. Just like if you had an opinion on whether Oprah looks better thin or fat, or whether vanilla is better than chocolate. Of course, your opinion that " most women who have abortions do have sex carelessly" is also faulty, but you are entitled to hold it.
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replied February 11th, 2009
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oopoopoop wrote:
nightangel73 wrote:
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Anyone else's sex life, and abortion, is none of you business.


It's not my business but I can give my opinion about it whenever and wherever I want to.


Well of course. But your opinion doesn't matter. Just like if you had an opinion on whether Oprah looks better thin or fat, or whether vanilla is better than chocolate. Of course, your opinion that " most women who have abortions do have sex carelessly" is also faulty, but you are entitled to hold it.


If my opinion didn't matter why you bother to respond me back.
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replied February 11th, 2009
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Ahh interesting we have had debates where pro-choice call the fetus "parasite" and now pro-choice is saying "parasitic nature". Very nice to see pro-choice maturing to not think now that a fetus is a parasite.


Very mature of a pro-lifer to call slavery and rape nothing in regards to forcing a woman to gestate.

In regards to woman trying harder, what is it you doint understand, birth control isn't fail proof, sterilization is not elective(you cannot have it done on demand) and the majority of males don't like wearing condoms or some woman are allergic to them.

Get the facts straight please!
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replied February 11th, 2009
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nightangel73 wrote:
oopoopoop wrote:
nightangel73 wrote:
oopoopoop wrote:
Anyone else's sex life, and abortion, is none of you business.


It's not my business but I can give my opinion about it whenever and wherever I want to.


Well of course. But your opinion doesn't matter. Just like if you had an opinion on whether Oprah looks better thin or fat, or whether vanilla is better than chocolate. Of course, your opinion that " most women who have abortions do have sex carelessly" is also faulty, but you are entitled to hold it.


If my opinion didn't matter why you bother to respond me back.


Oh, it is fine here! That's what this place is for. But it doesn't matter to someone who is pregnant, or considering an abortion, or whatever. Just like I might have an opinion on your sex life -- I can think that someone who is abstinent probably prefers masturbation, or doesn't actually have much of a sex drive, or is emotionally damaged and incapable of a relationship. But my opinion doesn't actually matter.
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replied February 11th, 2009
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oopoopoop wrote:
nightangel73 wrote:
oopoopoop wrote:
nightangel73 wrote:
oopoopoop wrote:
Anyone else's sex life, and abortion, is none of you business.


It's not my business but I can give my opinion about it whenever and wherever I want to.


Well of course. But your opinion doesn't matter. Just like if you had an opinion on whether Oprah looks better thin or fat, or whether vanilla is better than chocolate. Of course, your opinion that " most women who have abortions do have sex carelessly" is also faulty, but you are entitled to hold it.


If my opinion didn't matter why you bother to respond me back.


Oh, it is fine here! That's what this place is for. But it doesn't matter to someone who is pregnant, or considering an abortion, or whatever. Just like I might have an opinion on your sex life -- I can think that someone who is abstinent probably prefers masturbation, or doesn't actually have much of a sex drive, or is emotionally damaged and incapable of a relationship. But my opinion doesn't actually matter.


Okay good my opinion is relevant here.

Regarding your opinion on abstinent people those can very well be reasons for abstinence. Just add to that the religious -clergy and the many young who decide to wait until they are older and financiable stable to have sexual relations.
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replied February 11th, 2009
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nightangel73 wrote:
Just add to that the religious -clergy and the many young who decide to wait until they are older and financiable stable to have sexual relations.


Really? There is a religion that says "don't have sex until you are older and financially stable"?
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replied February 11th, 2009
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Hmm...if only women who abort are being irresponsible with preventative measures, what about those who don't? There's a lot of single mothers out there that had accidental pregnancies and have little to zero support from the other party responsible for it. I guess as long as the woman does her duty and breeds she's a saint, right? If she refuses to carry to term, she's obviously just not "trying hard enough" to avoid pregnancy. Rolling Eyes

Let me tell you something, NA...pregnancy isn't something women choose, even if they want it. If it were, there would be no need for abortion and there would be no women resorting to IVF methods to have children. Women cannot consciously "choose" whether they get pregnant from an encounter or not and things like breaking condoms, antibiotics (which can interfere with the effectiveness of birth control pills), failed tubals/vasectomies, miscalculation of cycles and (worst of all) rape are major factors in unwanted pregnancies.

I know it helps you feel morally superior to create this fantasy in your head where all women that abort are just running out and banging every guy they meet without protection and then aborting for sh*ts and giggles, but it's simply not true.

Until they invent a birth control method that is 100% foolproof, women who can get pregnant will. I've thankfully never faced that horror myself but I live in fear of it every day and if I could have all my eggs sucked out of me and given to infertile women, I would.
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replied February 11th, 2009
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THANK YOU DARKMOON. I could not have said it better myself. You took what I was trying to say all along and made it make sense! Thanks, girl! Smile
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replied February 11th, 2009
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oopoopoop wrote:
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Ahh interesting we have had debates where pro-choice call the fetus "parasite" and now pro-choice is saying "parasitic nature". Very nice to see pro-choice maturing to not think now that a fetus is a parasite.


Please don't generalise. I still think a fetus is a parasite. Evil little blood-suckers!

It's even more evil than most parasites, since it has the ability to alter the biological processes of the host to suit itself, ie altering its immune system to prevent it being rejected.


If it is A parasite, then it would also be a separate human being, because parasites are organsims which, of course, have their own species. It would then be incorrect to call a fetus a body part.
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replied February 11th, 2009
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Ahh interesting we have had debates where pro-choice call the fetus "parasite" and now pro-choice is saying "parasitic nature". Very nice to see pro-choice maturing to not think now that a fetus is a parasite.


Please don't generalise. I still think a fetus is a parasite. Evil little blood-suckers!

It's even more evil than most parasites, since it has the ability to alter the biological processes of the host to suit itself, ie altering its immune system to prevent it being rejected.


If it is A parasite, then it would also be a separate human being, because parasites are organsims which, of course, have their own species. It would then be incorrect to call a fetus a body part.


It is a human parasite, I thought we had this debate already..... Some please read medical books, there is actually reading documentions that explains how a fetus shares the charactheristics of a parasite. Therefore it would only be technical to call it a human parasite!
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replied June 15th, 2011
How can a woman live knowing she has killed her own child! It is so disgusting, so pervert! I know many suffers but if she didn't want a child why not give the child in adoption? There are 2 millions american couples waiting for adoption! This is totally wrong! We must do something about it! The Evil spirit is eating the unborned child and nobody cares! We are living in dreadful times!
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replied July 31st, 2011
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Oh STFU, many women wouldn't be able to handle adoption emotionally! You're willing to sacrifice an actual human being's life(postpartum depression that could push a woman to, let's see, maybe, SUICIDE!?) for a clump of cells!?? You're some piece of work, aren't you!?
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