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Treating ADHD with supplements

I found out that using a high dosage of krill oil together with phosphatidyl serine has concentration enhancing properties. I use it against ADD. I find it working better then traditional meds. As a long time dexedrine user I really know what I am talking about. This is my dosage:

08:00 6 softgels krill oil.
09:00 1 softgel phosphatidyl serine.
12:00 1 softgel phosphatidyl serine.
14:00 4 softgels krill oil
15:00 1 softgel phosphatidyl serine.
18:00 1 softgel phosphatidyl serine.
20:00 4 softgels krill oil
21:00 1 softgel phosphatidyl serine.

Total: 14 capsules krill oil and 5 softgels PS.

Sometimes I also take lecithin (which is cheaper then phosphatidyl serine, but not as calming).

People who don't have ADD might also use these supplements as a mind enhancing, concentration improving nootropic.

Remember: All these supplements are fats that originate from diet and body.

The brand krill oil is neptune krill oil (2 softgels = 1.0 g neptune krill oil/ NKO) and the brand phosphatidyl serine is Nature's Way.

After taking the phosphatidyl serine I feel the substances have concentration enhancing but also calming, relaxing properties.

How does it work:

The brain cells membrane is made of fat. One of these fats is phosphatidyl serine. Krill oil has DHA/EPA connected to phosphatidyl choline. This works as an anchor and enables more phosphatidyl serine to anchor to the cell membrane. More phosphatidyl serine improves the brain electral conduction and makes the electrical signals stronger, causing more neurotransmitters to be released. Something like that...
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replied October 30th, 2009
I have an important message. I am changing to another brand of krill oil (azantis/ enzymotec/ arcticpure), because the previous neptune krill oil suddenly lost it's potency (suddenly it didn't work much anymore). When examining the neptune krill oil capsules I concluded that the product looked much different then before (light orange instead of the usual dark red). I am seriously thinking the product is less potent because it's less concentrated. Something must have gone wrong at production and neptune can't guarantee me their product always contains the same ingredients (which is impossible with these "natural" products; they aren't standardised).

So I will now try azantis/ arctipure/ enzymotec (all the same company) krill oil. I really hope this will be a succes.
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replied April 21st, 2011
When I see children loaded with preservative laden pre-packaged foods filled with salts, sugars, and MSG's it makes me cringe. It makes me cringe worse when the child is fed a constant stream of sugar from soft drinks, kool-aid, sugary cake snacks, and candy.

The first step is to throw out anything that says "just add water & sugar". This would include things like boxed macaroni and cheese dinners. Any processed foods and foods with MSG's (monosodiumglutimate). Get rid of it all.

Good snacks are fruits. Apples, bananas, oranges.

Good meals are made at home. Nothing heat and serve. Things made from scratch are the best. This is where a parent/caretaker must have more discipline. Cooking is difficult but WELL WORTH THE EFFORT. It will taste better, be more wholesome, is cheaper, and most importantly, you know what your child is eating!

Also there are medications like Strattera available which are used to cure ADHD

HOw It Works?
Strattera is the brand name for a novel ADHD medication, atomoxetine hydrochloride. Strattera appears to work similarly to antidepressant medication primarily by selective inhibition of norepinephrine uptake. Whereas antidepressants focus on the mood centers of the brain, Strattera works in the areas of the brain used for impulse control, focus and attention such as the frontal cortex and striatal areas. Inhibition of reuptake of norepinephrine means that more of the neurotransmitter will be available to stimulate the neurons used in concentration and task management. This is different from stimulant medications, which act to flood the entire brain with a chemical stimulant.
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replied November 2nd, 2009
I just tried Source Naturals arcticpure krill oil. It's about the only brand that isn't sold out. It works, but it isn't nearly as potent as the neptune krill oil I tried before they had manufacturing problems.

I found out that the product actually contains fish oil and natural lemon oil as well:

Other Ingredients
Fish oil, medium chain triglycerides, gelatin, glycerin, mixed tocopherols, ascorbyl palmitate and natural lemon oil.

I now think the product is actually a mix between krill oil and fish oil and natural lemon oil. This explains it's reduced potency.

Also the product is encapsulated in hard gelatin (making it slow release?) so I had to wait 2-4 hours for the effect. Chewing the softgels made the product work quicker thought.

Now I will try superba krill oil (aker biomarine).
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replied November 8th, 2009
Superba krill oil didn't work either. Now trying Jarrow Azantis krill oil.
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replied November 15th, 2009
Has anyone tried this mix with what results?
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replied November 23rd, 2009
I think I found out why the superba krill oil didn't work but Neptune did.

With great difficulty (probably due to my concentration problems) I studied the krill oil extraction patents:

Superba krill oil is actually heated in order to extract the lipids and neutralize enzymes:

In some preferred embodiments, freshly caught krill is first subjected to a protein denaturation step. The present invention is not limited to any particular method of protein denaturation. In some embodiments, the denaturation is accomplished by application of chemicals, heat, or combinations thereof. In some embodiments, freshly caught krill is wet pressed to obtain oil and meal. In some embodiments, the meal is then heated to a temperature of about 50° C. to about 100° C. for about 20 minutes to about an hour, preferably about 40 minutes to denature the proteins.

But neptune krill oil isn't heated, it's washed with pure acetone or something:

After separation by filtration on an organic solvent resistant filter (metal, glass or paper) the residue is optionally washed with pure acetone, preferably two volumes (original volume of material) to recover yet more lipids. The combined filtrates are evaporated under reduced pressure. Optionally, flash evaporation or spray drying may be used. The water residue obtained after evaporation is allowed to separate from the oil phase (fraction I) at low temperature.

Very interesting is this:

U.S. Pat. No. 4,331,695 (not neptune, but a traditional extraction method) describes a method using pressurized solvents which are gaseous
at room temperature, such as propane, butane or hexane. The extraction is performed at
preferred temperatures of 15 to C. on shredded vegetable or finely divided
animal products. The extracted oils are then made to precipitate under high pressure and
elevated temperatures of 50 to C. However, hexane is a poor extraction
solvent for marine animals such as krill. Furthermore, the high temperatures used in the
precipitation step negatively alters the lipids.

So high temperatures should not be used when extracting krill oil. This explains why superba wasn't effective as the high temperatures may have destroyed the PC-DHA.
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replied April 9th, 2011
I have been using Krill Doctor Professional Brand. It has been working well so far as I have used different brands which I wasnt thrilled about before.
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replied March 21st, 2012
Found this thread about a year ago and tried the Krill Oil. It works.

Also experimented with various brands and the brand of Krill Oil that works best for me is Kordel which I get in Singapore.
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replied October 30th, 2012
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Okay I finally got a posting from the people who are throwing Vyvanse at us. So I am going to put their link below. I notice they have erased all the comments they used to have. - To save themselves from problems I would suspect, but honestly I am not afraid to tell the truth about these disgusting meds. My son takes the Omega 3-6-9 fatty acids in a chewable form and he is doing fine. He won't touch medication ever again!. Yes and he still hears voices from the darn Vyvanse. Nothing is better than the medications you get. Nutrition is the key to all the crap we have with mental conditions and our food in this country is just plain garbage and full of things to kill us all off (Genetically Modified, transfats, high fructose corn syrup, refined everything to name just a few). Anyway I hope this link will show up and you can vent your frustration to them as well. Good luck. "Vyvanse - The New Medicine for ADD/ADHD".
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replied November 16th, 2012
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I hear great knowledge hear. Is anybody familiar with Glutathione and the technology RiboCeine?
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replied November 19th, 2012
Addrena is an herbal supplement that aids in weight loss, boosting energy, and mental focus. The unique blend of vitamins, extracts, herbal stimulants, and nootropic smart drugs make it powerful in facilitation of body fat loss, boosting energy, and cases of attention deficit hyperactivity disorder.
I take Addrena for the weight loss and thermogenic effect, however a lot of people I know take it just for the focus effect and end up saving $300 a year because they do not have to take their medication that is prescribed to them by their doctors.
This product works differently for everyone, but I definitely recommend it!
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replied November 21st, 2012
I got lots of knowledge and various views about the various supplementary drugs and the mixture of drugs for ADHD from this thread.
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replied December 7th, 2012
I heard that if we are using stimulants for ADHD then it may cause heart attack.
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