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Spleen energy point for Cure From Depression! (Page 1)

Hey guys, I know exactly how it feels to be in all of your situations. I have been to the lowest point anyone can go with depression and anxiety, I was a walking train wreck, ready to sink... but I knew the day would come that I would get relief. I looked around all of the treatments and drugs that I knew wouldn't permanently cure it because I was on a mission to fix the problem completely, not just rely on something that would just make me feel better for the time being. I thought of the time when it all started and noticed that I had been emotionally abused into the depression and anxiety. As the put-downs and neglect went on my depression got worse, so I got out of that evironment by quitting my job. My boss was the one that abused me all the time by telling me I sucked at everything I did and that I would never find a girlfriend etc. After I quit the depression and anxiety persisted stronger than ever, it was horrible,, for a year and half I suffered severely from being put down so much. I realized that I must of retained the depressive emotions and anxiety emotions.. so I looked for a treatment or technique that would release the emotions that were retained.. I found NERT (negative emotional release treatment) sure enough, it was simply negative emotions that were retained in my sub-concious mind. I have now released severe depression, anxiet, anger and confusion in four treatments.. I feel better than I ever have in my life... it's great... so I have now asked other people that have gone to the treatment and asked them their story. They all tell me the same thing.. "I have been 100% from depression" and anxiety! The success rate is like 100% for the people that have the most common depression! Please find a NERT centre near you and go in for a conseltation.. they are pretty rare to find... if you can't find one just PM me and I'll help you do that.. .. there's hope guys.. love you all!
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replied May 13th, 2007
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Thanks for you recommendation! I'm glad it has worked nicely for you.

For the people interested in finding out more about this - go to Google and type in "emotional release treatment".
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replied May 16th, 2007
Emotional Freedom Technique
Hey guys, I just wanted to let you know that you don't actually have to find a NERT treatment to release the negative emotions. I found a technique that you can apply to yourself 100% safe that releases negative emotions and negative energy in general. I tried it on myself for a negative habit that I have, and it has vanished completely. It's called
EFT (emotional freedom technique) I will out-line how to apply it on the next reply.. it will take me a while...
Take care everyone.... love ya... release is on the way..
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replied May 17th, 2007
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EFT- Emotional Freedom Technique

Studies have shown that the sub-concious mind holds onto, and retains negative emotions when they are not processed properly. This is a result of a disruption in the energy system, an energy blockage, making the person feel the emotions, wheather they are depressive, anxious, angry, lonely, resentment over and over until they are released. To release the emotions, the energy blockage must be un-blocked. This can be done a couple of different ways, but mainly the overall procedure involves stimulating the energy system and sub-concious mind. The sub-concious mind is aware of every problem in the body, bringing it up into your concious mind, letting you know that it is there, that it needs to be fixed. Acupuncture works with the energy system, acupressure also works with the energy system but
EFT (emotional freedom technique) adresses the specific emotional problem, finds it and releases the negative energy (emotions) that is holing you back from living like you should. The EFT technique is self applied and is very safe and effective. If it is not done properly, it simply doesn't work, but if done right, results are nothing short of amazing!

EFT Procedure

Read everything before you start the procedure, because little things are absolutely neccessary for results.....basically you will tap on all of the energy meridians (like acupressure) to stimulate the energy system and then tell the brain which problem you would like to adress with the energy system.

Energy Meridian Points

#1) Eye Brow (beginning of the inside of either brow)
#2) Temple (beside either eye)
#3) Under Eye (inch under either eye)
#4) Under Nose (between nose and upper lip)
#5) Chin (between bottom lip and bottom of chin, in the groove)
#6) Collar Bone (beginning of either collar bone, just under)
#7) Collar Bone (where either collar bone and shoulder meet)
#8 ) Arm Pit (ligning up with the nipple and centre of pit)
#9) Splean (above the spleen, on either top ab muscles out of six)
#10) Wrist (where a watch would go on either wrist)

Script

"Even though I have this depression (negative emotion of any kind) , I completely love and accept myself"

When you are going through the procedure, you need to feel the emotion that you want to release. The brain needs to know what part of the energy system needs repair.... for depression, feel hopeless, stuck, down etc when you are doing this technique. If you don't feel the emotion while doing this technique it will not work. Just saying which emotion you want to release isn't enough.. this is very important while applying this.... I can't stress this enough... the only thing that links the sub-concious mind to the energy system is the feelings (thoughts)

Putting it all togeather

the script and tapping will be applied at the same time repedatively.

#1) Put your index + middle finger togeather
#2) Practice tapping each energy meridian point (tap each point about seven or eight times with index+middle finger #1) through #10) in order)
#3) Practice the script
#4) Find a way to feel the emotion that you want to release
#5) Put it all togeather!

Tap each meridian point with your index + middle finger seven or eight times #1 through #10 while saying "even though I have this depression (negative feeling), I completely love and accept myself" repeat, repeat, repeat, repeat, etc

You don't have to count how many times you are tapping each point, as long as the energy system is being stimulated.... make the transitions between each point smooth and make the taps hard enough to stimulate it but not so hard that it hurts...

This technique can be used for several different things....
As long as it has something to do with the energy system... (emotions such as depression, anxiety, anger, resentment, fears, phobias, allergies, panic attacks, nervousness) sometimes physical pains are actually caused by emotional stress as well.

I have spoken to many people that have walked free from depression, applying this technique just a couple of times, but usually it needs to be re-applied to completely wipe out the emotion, especially if it is tied to alot of other issues.

Lots of times people will release the emotion of depression but they still feel that there is something bringing them down. They realise that anger, resentment, loneliness also play big roles in depression, and as soon as they are adressed, peace of mind is theirs again.

Examples:

"even though I feel like giving up"
"even though I feel lonely"
"even though I feel like I'm about to cry"
"even though I have this depression"
"even though I have this anger"
"even though I feel that I don't deserve to get better"
"even though I want to hurt myself"
"even though I feel stuck"
"even though I feel worthless"
"even though I feel that I have been taken advantage of"
"even though I have this resentment"

"I completely love and accept myself"


All day, every day, energies are being processed through our energy system just like food through the digestive system. Just like when a piece of gum gets stuck in the digestive system, a result of not having enough fiber, energy is also stuck because it was too over whelming or traumatizing to deal with. A chemical in-balance is the result of negative thoughts and emotions, and constipation is a result of the lack of fiber.

ps: everything stated is in my opinion (and all other EFT testimonials) I'm not a specialist or a doctor, I am just sharing this from experience (I have released severe depression and anxiety from myself) and reporting facts from what the professionals and studies say.
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replied May 17th, 2007
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Thank you, I will delete my comments and yours other than this one and the first few. It's very nice to see someone actually help people on here, no offense to you in the first place, we just get a ton of people coming on here peddling their sites and products and drawing lots of people in to make money.
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replied May 17th, 2007
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Could you explain the location of the spleen point, you just say near ribcage and that's pretty vague.
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replied May 17th, 2007
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the spleen energy point is actually above the spleen right where the highest abdomanal muslce is (either) if you look at a six pack of abs it would be the two top ones (highest)
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replied May 18th, 2007
For medical issues, it's much better to use terms like 'remission'. Especially for psychological issues what with the unconscious, do we know even less about it compared to what we don't know about things like cancer? This is because depression (as long as not chronic) is an expected part of the human condition and generaly comes and goes as individuals fluctuate and change over time.

It is good that you have escaped a bad job... did you find a replacement? Often we find strife in environments like work or business, and if we can find something better it's good, but often we have to bear it. I get the whole "don't you want a girlfriend" not to mention being called 'nig' and 'weird' and crap like that but money's needed and so's job experience. Often I think what can propel us through miserable environments is clinging to that hope of a better future where we can not only exist in more stimulating and rewarding endeabours, but also in ones where other constructive and positivity-minded persons also work, so that it is a more pleasant one also.

I'm pretty familiar with 'emotional freedom technique', having read about it some. Much like acupressure/puncture, it seems like more of a suggestion/placebo type treatment without indepedant medical merit. However, placebos can do wonders... I think the most beneficial form of the treatment is that it causes you to focus on various emotions and their stimuli, but unlike other treatments, the tapping distracts you from worrying about them or getting into recursive loops of self-doubt or stressing over a single emotionor issue.

In that way, it forms a distancing sort of barrier where perhaps the subconscious contemplation will occur without pollutin of conscious dwelling. Until eventually those emotions subside enough to contemplate things logically in a place where reactions to trigger-issues do not cause enough of a negative reaction to interfere with constructive therapies.
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replied May 18th, 2007
Actually the tapping isn't to distract the mind, but to actually stimulate the energy system. Since the 'energy system' isn't spoken about very much, most people aren't even aware of it. I had no clue that I had an energy sytem until I went for my NERT (negative emotional release treatment) conseltation. I was expecting the practitioner to tell me that I had some sort of mental disruption, but when he told me that it had to do with my energy system.. I was like ??????????.... it's as real as any part of the body, but of course it's not something that you can see with the human eye.. you can't see the negative emotions chillin in your energy system or see them leave the body... that's why people don't look to that... lol .. what's to look at?... you've got to feel it... aight gotta get goin.... thanx for the reply.. very interesting lol... take care everyone... love ya all...
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replied May 18th, 2007
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This is essentially a different version of qi theory, which the Chinese have known for centuries.
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replied May 19th, 2007
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And this is so great, it's neat to know that this can really work and that this is apart from drug using. Smile
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replied May 20th, 2007
Sorry for the misunderstanding, I know 'fooing the senses' is not what the system is advertised as doing by those who propogate it, I just believe that it's a better explanation for what's happening since there's not any evidence for these 'energy systems'.

What I think things like ki points, or chakric gateways, or 'prana centre' or whatever, are the most effective visualizations humans have deveoped for stimulating beneficial products, they mesh with our imaginations and desire for how to see ourselves and our workings, quite frequently. I think they also correspond to some nerve centres too, which could explain touch sensitivity frequency.
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replied May 20th, 2007
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Sorry to say, but you're wrong. Qi has been proven for a long, long time, though the applications of it are difficult for people to learn. It's essentially just the rapport between blood vessels and the nervous system, it creates a sort-of energy that is part of what keeps the body running. We all generate a certain amount of electromagnetic engery, and this is part of it. If you want to feel it, take your hand and squeeze a tight fist. Now, do it again, but don't actually squeeze. Send the impulse down the arm and feel as though you are squeezing hard, but don't tense the muscles at all. That's qi flow.
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replied August 8th, 2007
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replied August 8th, 2007
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Then you're not doing it right or need a ton of practice to feel it. I can't describe it any better, you'll feel it. Just imagine you're squeezing your hand but don't actually do it, learn to feel the impulse you send and then concentrate on it. That impulse is the flow. Same thing as when you walk, I'm sure you're aware you can change your gait, and all that is is a change in the impulse and how you manipulate it. You're not doing anything special with what I said, just becoming aware that it's there. If you're talking about the above not working, then ignore this.
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replied August 8th, 2007
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Then you're not doing it right or need a ton of practice to feel it. I can't describe it any better, you'll feel it. Just imagine you're squeezing your hand but don't actually do it, learn to feel the impulse you send and then concentrate on it. That impulse is the flow. Same thing as when you walk, I'm sure you're aware you can change your gait, and all that is is a change in the impulse and how you manipulate it. You're not doing anything special with what I said, just becoming aware that it's there. If you're talking about the above not working, then ignore this.


Heheh yeah that worked for me.
Just the above...tapping on eyebrows head ear eye toe (ok.. exaggeration) didn't work...but i'm just impatient Shocked
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replied August 8th, 2007
Attention Everyone!! Reiki
Hello everyone... I would just like to let you know that I have recently learned the 'real' way to releasing negative emotions, without even having to tap on your energy meridian points.... Has anyone heard of REIKI?
REIKI is a treatment where you pump positive energy into the energy system to push the negative blockages out. I have realized that EFT is not always permanent and isn't the most efficient way of doing it.

If I were you, just ignore the EFT procedure and look to reiki to release all negative emotions.. The chances are that your depression is in fact negative emotions that are stuck in the energy system and that REIKI will release it... but if your depression is caused by something else, releasing all of your negative emotional issues will help dramatically anyways..

Please contact me if you would like to learn how to self apply reiki...
I have applied reiki to myself even after my depression was relieved to see if I may of had any extra emotional issues that I might not of known about... wow!! I released all kinds of anger and frustrations and I feel even better than I did before... reiki takes away all emotional ties to things, which means that you will percieve life as you did as a little child...
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replied August 10th, 2007
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Heheh yeah that worked for me.
Just the above...tapping on eyebrows head ear eye toe (ok.. exaggeration) didn't work...but i'm just impatient Shocked


Oh, okay, great! Well, I suppose so, all you did is feel qi. Anyway, warren, it seems you are still searching, no? Another theory? I thought the first one worked. Out of all meditation methods, I'd have to say that qigong is going to be the most effective, though the hardest to learn.
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replied August 10th, 2007
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Stan;

I understand what you are saying about QiGong. I suppose the results and mechanisms are similar to manipualtion of the Chi or Qi with acupuncture or acupressure? have you any experience with this to treat emotional issues?
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replied August 10th, 2007
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Yes, pretty much, but you do it all with concentration and learning how to move it around and such. Ummm, my case is slightly different than someone who may have a straight mental illness, though I don't really believe in that I think it's all connected to metabolic issues, because I had a glucose problem at the root of my symptoms. However, I will say that when I was at my worst I found that qigong did in fact help me to focus better and deal with the emotions much better. Over time, though it took about a year or so, I was back to normal and more calm than ever, so yes, I'd say it works, but I must also factor in the fact that I know how to eat right now to keep my body healthy.
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