My Grandmother Wanted Me Aborted...

i wasn't having a go - when I wrote 'what stops you from killing...' I was not directing it at the poster but at everyone. Perhaps a more accurate way of writing it would have been to say 'what stops one from killing...'

the usual "prolife" response would be that at least you were given a chance at life, no matter how bad you feel it's been. The "prolifers" in my family have this very unrealistic, idealistic view of life because they have had it so good, they are incapable of seeing this issue from the point of view of someone who wishes that they had never been born.

this blinds them not only in a discussion about abortion but in a lot of other discussions as well including many different social programs. Since they have had it so good, they don't understand what it is like for people who do not and thus, they tend to believe that everyone can have a life like the one that they are living forgetting that they started with so much more and also forgetting that they have been incredibly lucky. The priviledges that we have, however few or many, blind us to people's lives and experiences who have less or nothing at all.

I am sorry that you have not had a good life. You are not alone in that. But, I have to agree with eiri. None of us asked to be born when we were and to whom. But we can't give up. We just have to continue on, work hard, and hope that things improve.

i think this is an interesting concept. I almost wish it were possible because then children would finally only be born in situations where they are well cared for. Too bad the real world can't work that way.

I wish you a better life and more time to contemplate your place in it, raziel. Best of luck.
Peace,
jenn

i think your response was very inappropriate. She had a hard life and was speaking out about it. Many childern whos parents choose not to abort have beat their children, ignored them, neglected them........She was just stating that she is hurting really bad and her point on life. She may be gloomy but atleast she is talkign about it instead of killing herself or others. That is what communticaiton is. When you say stuff like you did in your post your telling other woman that you don't care and that they should keep their feelings to themselves. She was not insulting anyone but yet you insulted her.

Do you have children of your own? Is that how you would respond to your child? Or anyone elses? If my child spoke out and felt that way I would hope that if he/she didn't feel they could come to me then they would find an outlet for their feelings. She did and you just slamed the door in her face. That just makes no sence to me at all.

what if they could ask? Forget about either, prolifers or prochocers.... Just imagine for a moment that we can hear them say something. What woudl that be?

i went through some really bad expierences at age 12, I ran away from because my dad had hit me. I went through multiple down time/hard times got into drugs and stuff, got abused some more and my mom did exactly what your saying emma.


Here "jess" take another paxel well f*ck that, my mom kept bringing me to a shrink, she couldnt figure out why my marks were dropping at achool all I needed was someone to talk to, who wouldnt baby me!

So anyways they told me I was bipolar/schizophrenic with manic depression in the end when I said enough at 17 I was removed from all those godamn pill and was finally allowed to live my life!


Listen,emphasize but do not pity and giveng paxel isnt a !**@! cure

sorry gals that one touched a soft sopt

oh shut up...You are such a f-ing idiot....She needs paxil...And thats opening a door not closing it...

its paxil first of all and it is a start. Stop acting like some lunatic jess....Its for depression and a few people I know take it and it helped them and actually saved one of my suicidal friend....Chill out a have a glass of wine!

you wouldn't get a response because foetuses would neither be able to understand the question "do you want to live?" nor would they be able to reply to it.

Kypros.

i can imagine my own and my husbands.

Mine: hey fetus. If your mother chooses to have you and you don't have any genetic deformities, your presence doesn't threaten her health or life, and you remain healthy enough, your life will consist of the following: an average childhood in a middle class home and neighborhood, a painful divorce and bloody custody battle, a new loving home in a wealthier community with an attentive mother and stepfather, fantastic high school with tons of opportunites for a girl with her parents credit card, good college, lovely wedding, supportive husband, good credit, nice home of your own, savings, travel, etc. Would you like that?

My husbands: hey fetus. If you mother chooses to have you and you don't have any genetic deformities, your presence doesn't threaten her health or life, and you remain healthy enough, your life will consist of the following: poverty, hunger, neglect, sickness, preventable disease, abuse, lack of opportunity at the same high school because you don't have the money to pay for the extras, meet a lovely young woman, live at her house for the remainder of your high school days because your father decides that you are cramping his pimp/playboy image and kicks you out at 16, have a strained relationship with both parents for as long as the eye can see, battle with weight issues when there finally is enough food to eat, good college thanks to the kindness of someone elses parents, supportive wife, good credit, nice home of your own even though your dad always puts it down when you see him, savings, travel, etc. Would you like that?

My husband has said several times that if he could have chosen not to be born, that he would have made that choice because for all of the good that has happened in the past six years, there was two decades of horror.

Not everyone who is alive is happy that their parents bumped uglies and decided to keep what resulted from that. It is supremely naive to believe that any life is better than no life at all, especially when people are suffering as much as they are.