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I Have Gout In Toes And Knee

I feel like I am at a alcoholics annonymous meeting..


I get gout in my right big toe and my left knee, it took my doctor ages to diagnose it, even up to the point where she wanted to take a sample from my toe but hey, it was too painful and I would not allow it.


I had gout in the toe for 3 months after eating a pizza with tabasco and chillies on it (yummy).


When it is my knee, I have found that I cannot command my leg to lift that knee, even to the point of not being able to move my foot forward to press the clutch peddle in the car etc, I need to kick it forward with my other knee, is this common, also sometimes it feels like I am going to bend it backwards and it realy hurts.


Is there a site that I can show the missus that explains gout and the pain etc, also how when my knee feels like its bending backwards so she understands what the pain is like.


I sometimes tell her its worse than child birth.


I have gone down the votaren path, now I am onto indomethacin, next I don't know, were thinking of trying progout but after reading some of the theorie here might have to try strawberries or hydrocloric acid and baking soda.


Any ideas.
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replied April 19th, 2005
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Sorry you have gout. "emergency gout treatments" section in http://www.Icuredmygout.Org describes what to do in case of gout attack. Also, you will find useful info in the posts in this board. Good luck.
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replied October 16th, 2005
G'day aussieguy,

i have had gout attacks in both knees and the experience you describe of not having control over the leg is exactly the same.

The pain is unbeliveable and yes, I have to 'kick' or lift the bad leg with the good leg as I feel as if there is no strength left in that leg.

Weird sensation and it radiates up to a point above the knee and just below it.

I have suffered lot's of different pain and ailments in my 45 years but nothing can compare with gout in the knees.

I have it now in both my elbows and they are swollen and puffy and horrid. I can't wear short sleeve shirts or t-shirts anymore as I look like a freak. Ah well.

Cheers,

paul.

Ps,

i love my beer and nuthin is gonna stop me enjoying my one vice in life.

My beer!

F**k the gout !
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replied February 6th, 2010
As I write this, my left knee is on fire - the size of a melon! A hot Epsom salt bath helps temporarily, but just that; temporarily. I also currently have gout in my right big toe (podagra) and the outside 3 toes of my left foot; needless to say, I use a cane to ambulate. I sleep maybe 4 hours at night, wake up around 3am in excruciating pain, and watch TV with my feet up for the remainder of the evening. There is little I could attribute this attack to (the longest thus far at >2 weeks full-on pain/swelling) and the morning pain makes it unbearable. Are we all qualified for disability? I think, as weird as this sounds, to a "olive binge" I had ~ 2 weeks ago - straight from the olive bar with hot peppers, multiple kinds of olives and garlic..........I thought olive (leaves) were good for gout - guess I was wrong. Best to all those who suffer!
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replied February 6th, 2010
To all of you above, go to posted "second gout attack" or "baking soda and gout" then look for reply from "gouthelp" this remedy will work for you, I've been gout free for over 2 years, and I've had major gout attacks before, so I know what it's like trying to go to sleep at night with out moving so the pain won't kill you. Good Luck
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replied April 1st, 2010
Gout Sucks
I am 41 years old and have had gout since I was 30.
My uric acid level was up to 10ml and it is at 8ml now.Should be below 6ml
I get it in my toes,ankle,knee''s hand and wrist. I have gout tophi in both knees so my range on motion is very limited. I just had knee surgery to remove the tophi from my knee''s so hopefully I will be able to walk normal again. Gout is the worst thing that could happen to you and it is so painful.
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replied November 16th, 2017
Yes, gout sucks, and it can occur in any joint. I have had similar attacks. I also have tophi on my left knee and have been considering surgery to remove it...how did that surgery work out for you?
Let me know if possible.

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replied April 1st, 2010
Gout Sucks
I am 41 years old and have had gout since I was 30.
My uric acid level was up to 10ml and it is at 8ml now.Should be below 6ml
I get it in my toes,ankle,knee''s hand and wrist. I have gout tophi in both knees so my range on motion is very limited. I just had knee surgery to remove the tophi from my knee''s so hopefully I will be able to walk normal again. Gout is the worst thing that could happen to you and it is so painful.
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replied June 16th, 2010
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Hi all I am 26yrs old female, I started having gout on my left toes about 10 months ago, at first the doc said I have tendonitis at the urgent care place but like 6 months having this pain on and off when ever it wanted to just swell up with so much pain I finally have a doctor that told me that it was gout because I has such high levels of uric acid . today is the first time I feel it in my knee it hurts but not to bad and it is swelling up it feels like pain is worsening more and more. I also have so many other health issue along with this gout pain . I just found out I have kidney disease 3 weeks ago also !!!! talking about scared , stressed, worried, and depressed......... and also diabetic, high blood pressure and hypothyroidism.......I am so scared I I don't know what to do all these problems I have I feel like just giving up....
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replied February 13th, 2012
Dear Anita
i am a 52 year old female. I was diagnosed with polycystic kidney disease in 1997, I was 37 at the time. I don't know if your kidney disease is the same kind? - mine is inherited from my dear old dad's side of the family. I got my first gout attack in my toes in 2009. I thought my foot was going to fall off it was so painful. they reckon it was brought on by one of my hypertension meds (bendrofluazide). yes i am also overweight! and sometimes can stick to a diet and other times not. the only good thing for me is that I don't seem to react to food products like some of our other sufferers but reckon i am noticing reactions to acids and other chemicals in drinks.
the best advice I can give you is to please don't panic and take each day as it comes. you are young, the more you look after yourself now means the longer the worst case scenario will take to kick in. Drink plenty of fluids to flush out the system and try the many other cures (one at a time!) that have been posted on this site. keep a journal - this way you can judge better what is setting off your attacks, what you have done about stopping the attacks and how long it is between attacks. it will also help with the kidney thing. you may be lucky like me - so far I just have one renal specialist appointment per year, the gout is reasonably new and I have many good things going on in my life.
good luck!
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replied June 11th, 2012
hello....DO LOOK UP "KIDNEY COACH" Web site and FB... fantastic info.. I too have all your issues and this has been invaluabe to me. My gout is controlled by keeping my body alkaline, drinking water with lemon juice/apple cider vinegar/baking soda.. and diet......it works..best wishes
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replied June 18th, 2010
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Hi Anita,

Please don't give up. Make sure that you don't have sleep apnea, something which doctors frequently overlook. It could be the cause of all of your health problems.
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replied January 3rd, 2011
Gout in the knee
I am 41 years old and start with Gout only 3 years ago in my toes. I could not believe the pain, i could not walk. Since then i have taken allopurinol, which I am suppose to take daily but I don't. and Indomethacin when i get a flare up. It churns my stomach but for the pain relief I will continue to take it. Gour runs in my family so I knew I was at risk. I am claissified as obese so This year I am going to lose the weight that my doctor has recommended. ALso, drink lost of wated to flush the uric acid out and lots of vegatibles. It has not crept up to my knee and I thought I twisted it playing hockey. My own diagnosis states that I ate to much bad stuff(sugar and meats) during the Xmas season and now paying for it. For anyone that has not experienced gout, you can not explain it to them so don't even try.
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replied June 27th, 2011
Worst pain you will ever experience (including child-birth!) -
I lowered my "over all" acid level in my body by eliminating acidic foods (I used to drink orange juice all day long thinking it was healthy... and when I drank I drank things with citric acid in them) Then I read the articles on goutpal.com - Once I understood how the extra acid in my body was keeping the uric acid from dissipating I changed my habits... I swapped the Orange Juice for water and instead of drinking a 6-pack each night on the weekend I traded it for a couple of shots of Tequila

(I drink about a gallon and a half of water per day now)
I was gout free for almost 2 1/2 years...

Then I felt like I had won the war so I started easing back into my old habits (more beer and orange juice) Then I got the worst gout attack of my life - this time instead of in my feet and toes it attacked my knee... The pain was unbearable - I am now going back to eating the right things and avoiding the bad ones... I never want to feel that pain again! The brief buzz I get from a beer is simply not worth the price!
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replied June 27th, 2011
Extremely eHealthy
I hope u r doing well but I think u may misunderstand acidity in the body. actually eating too much red meat will do it, but eating too much fruit will only fix it, I know that sounds counter intuitive. now as to the beer, that could be a problem
HERE IS SOMETHING U MIGHT CONSIDER; a gout vacine, ask your Dr
also; doctor can give you a shot of corticosteroids
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replied August 2nd, 2011
Re: I Have Gout In Toes And Knee
Forget,purine rich foods,forget meat, forget fish, forget alcohol,being the cause of your gout.The real culprit as I
found out after years of testing is FRUCTOSE.Try and reduce or eliminate that and your gout problems will be over.
You will be grateful to me for giving you this information.your doctors might disagree but what do you have to lose,
trying it for a couple of weeks.For me it worked wonders,after suffering from gout for more than 10 years.
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replied February 12th, 2012
Debilitating
I discovered my first case of gout in 2001. My jobs on site nurse told me I had it after I complained of a constant searing pain in my big toe. It was few months after I had eaten goat and deer meat for the first time. Haven't had it again since. My culprit now is beef. Be it a steak, pot roast, a hamburger, a hotdog. I can eat beef, and two weeks later, like clockwork, I get a flare up. For 11 years, I have had it in my toes, elbows, knees, wrists, and knuckles. Indomethacin used to work wonders in the beginning, now it does nothing. My only relief is Aleve and colchicine taken together. My elbows look like Popeyes and I can't even do a full squat because of my right knee. Back in 2001, it swole up and locked in a 90 degree angle for almost two months. I can sit for 5 minutes and get up and it's stiff. I can't walk for 10 minutes without eventually limping. When I walk down the stairs, I have to do one step at a time. I'll be 37 this year and I feel like I'm 67!!!
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replied August 8th, 2012
I'm 17 and I have gout in my big toe .

No history of gout in my family nor is there with arthritis.

I eat a pretty healthy diet and I exercise three times a week.

Oh and I've never had a drink in my life!

I wish someone could explain this predicament to me !
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replied September 1st, 2012
Gout problems
I am 35 years old and have suffered with gout for 3 years. It seems to attack me after bigger meals...not so much of what i eat...i could have a burger and a night on beer and be fine, but if me and my family have a roast turkey with lots of vegetables it can kick in pretty quick...i think the thing is to not over endulge...however...i recently was poorly with diverticulitis and didnt eat for two days...just drank a lot of water...and on the second night i woke up with gout in my knee...so it i didnt eat anything, how could this happen? I have read reports (although unproven) that stress can cause it...i believe it. I've been asked if i want to go onto allopurinol, one a day for the rest of my life...i dont really want to do this but it would be good to talk to someone who is taking this drug to see what the benefits are.
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replied September 1st, 2012
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Hi RichardHB

I sympathize with what you are going through; I've been there myself. I too never wanted to begin a lifelong regimen of allopurinol, or any drug, but I was about to agree to it when other events led to the discovery that I had sleep apnea (frequent periods during sleep when breathing stops for many seconds at a time). Once I figured out how to prevent my sleep apnea, my frequent gout attacks ceased immediately and completely. Your remark that your most recent attack developed while you were sleeping leads me to suspect that sleep apnea may be the root of your gout also.

There is strong medical evidence that the lack of oxygen in the body, which occurs with sleep apnea, leads to elevated uric acid in the blood. I am sure that in many gout patients the uric acid in the blood from sleep apnea is high enough to precipitate as the monosodium urate crystals which cause gout which develops while they are sleeping. Don't ask me to explain why medical science hasn't connected the elevated uric acid from sleep apnea with gout, but it just isn't there yet. It just hasn't occurred yet to gout experts that they should explore this connection. In the mean time, you and many other gout sufferers are faced with the difficult choice of a lifelong regimen of drugs, or a lifelong regimen of gout pain.

Gout is an early indicator of the presence of sleep apnea, and should initiate diagnosis and treatment for sleep apnea, which is readily treatable. If left untreated, sleep apnea will greatly increase your risk for developing life-threatening diseases, some of which have been found to be prevalent in people with gout -- cardiovascular diseases, diabetes, high blood pressure, kidney disease, etc. You need to insist on having a sleep study to see if you have sleep apnea, and then follow the prescribed regimen to overcome it. Not only can it cure your gout; it also can add good quality years to your life.
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replied December 20th, 2014
gout in the knees
I have had gout for over 7 years , I had tried moms vinegar and tart cherry juice I do this first thing in the morning I still get gout first in big toe now in the knees , I quit drinking beer cut out red meat and still get gout I wish I knew of a cure I don't want to take appuronal I heard its also bad for your liver is there some way of getting corticosteroid shots from the internet to give myself a shot that helps/ to all you gout suffers I hope you get better!!
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replied January 21st, 2015
Gout and knee pain
I am 55 years old and was diagnosed with Lupus in 2006 after a traumatizing auto accident left me with joint issues and injured my back. I have asteoporosis. I am thin and do not drink alchohol. I do drink 3 or 4 Diet Cokes daily.
I have severe knee pain and some swelling and the doctor thinks I could have gout of the knee. They removed some fluid to send away.. I got a cortisone shot. I cannot crouch down, or walk up steps without severe pain. My knee wants to "buckle" and it feels unstable as if it is going to hyperextend. I have some pain in my feet/toes as well, but with Lupus, joint pain is most common in the feet, elbows, hands and wrists. I can't for the life of me imagine gout being the culprit. I eat salads and little meat. My husband gulps down beer and sausage and red meat like it's no tomorrow. He is the one who should be in line for gout.
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replied January 21st, 2015
Gout and knee pain
I am 55 years old and was diagnosed with Lupus in 2006 after a traumatizing auto accident left me with joint issues and injured my back. I have asteoporosis. I am thin and do not drink alchohol. I do drink 3 or 4 Diet Cokes daily.
I have severe knee pain and some swelling and the doctor thinks I could have gout of the knee. They removed some fluid to send away.. I got a cortisone shot. I cannot crouch down, or walk up steps without severe pain. My knee wants to "buckle" and it feels unstable as if it is going to hyperextend. I have some pain in my feet/toes as well, but with Lupus, joint pain is most common in the feet, elbows, hands and wrists. I can't for the life of me imagine gout being the culprit. I eat salads and little meat. My husband gulps down beer and sausage and red meat like it's no tomorrow. He is the one who should be in line for gout.
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replied September 26th, 2017
Can anybody tell me the treatment for the gout?
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