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Hida Scan Normal...pain Under Right Rib? (Page 1)

I am so confused & scared... So i've got a few questions. Hope these symptoms makes sense to someone out there.

January 4- went to er for severe pain in right upper quadrant. Also had pain in right arm that radiated up into shoulder, neck & jaw. They sent me home saying it was just heartburn. General doctor figured it was my gallbladder & also that I have ulcers, since I have frequent heartburn/sour stomach. Had two more attacks thursday january 13, at 2am & then around 7 pm. After attack had dull achy heavy feeling below right rib. Now the pain is just there most of the time, achy...Very uncomfortable...More so when I set. Thigh joints hurt for two days following. Noticed pale stools for a few days after these attacks as well, now back to normal. Have felt lightheaded since attack that sent me to the er. Blood pressure has been lower then usual for me, but i've also not been leaving the house much, feel like crud most the time. Tired, fatigued light head. This mostly starts at night 6/7 pm. Light headed feelings even there when lying down to go to bed... Feels like my head is swimming. Er blood tests showed slightly elevated liver enzymes. Second blood test a week later showed liver enzymes down from previous week, but still elevated. Ultrasound revealed a small polyp in gallbladder 3,4mm. No stones. Had a hida scan last thursday, came back normal. My general doctor is sending me to consult with a surgeon.

My questions are-- if my gallbladder is working normally, no stones, just a small polyp...What could be causing the pain under my lower right rib? Also what could cause slightly elevated liver enzymes?

Thanks so much for the help...
Heather
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replied January 25th, 2005
Hida Scan Normal....pain Under Right Ribs..
Hi heather... I could have written your post. I'm in the same boat you are in. Only my fam doctor is sending me to a gastroenterologist first. My ultrasound came back normal..No stones... Just had the hida last thur and it was normal... Ughhhh I can't eat hardly anything... I wake up in pain until I get vertical for awhile... Then am okay til I eat. Am better since I started eating less fat. Went to applebee's tonight and ate off their weight watchers part of their menu and it about did me in... I get that crazy feeling in my head like you are describing. This crap has been going on for over 8 yrs now but has just recently went up high under the ribs...Ribs feel bruised! The pain has always been at waist level before. Now I get chest pains with a feeling of being stabbed clear through to my back and the knife is being twisted. I have the appt with the gastro doc next tues... Hope i'm not given the runaround!

Good luck... I would like to know what happens after you talk to the surgeon.
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replied October 19th, 2011
I have had the same thing going on for a week and a half. Started with pain under right ribs then wrapped around my chest and back. Felt like I am having a heart attack when the pain shoots through from my back to chest. Hidascan and ultrasound were "normal". I go to the surgeon tomorrow to find out what I need to do.
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replied April 11th, 2013
hi bamagal...I have same symptoms...did u ever find out whats wrong?
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replied January 25th, 2005
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Hida Scan Normal....pain Under Right Ribs..
Today pain has become more pronounced underneath & to the bottom & side of my right ribs. Also having pain in my back directly parallel to the rib pain. Been having pains in the center of my stomach as well. Have been trying to just lay down & rest, but when I do my whole body feels like it pulsating/vibrating. Heads still feeling the same way setting here typing. Very disconcerting... Has anyone else had this happen? Am really more afraid of all my symptoms being my liver, because of the slightly elevated enzymes from my blood test & not my gallbladder...Since all tests for the gallbladder came back normal other then the small polyp.

Thanks,
heather
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replied January 25th, 2005
Gallbladder to Heather
Heather I 'guest' that posted right above you. We sound like twins. I'm so sick today i'm about ready to head to the er. Wrote a nurse friend of mine that used to work the er at the hosp I would go to. Asked her what would happen if I go, she's not read her email yet. I woke up soooooo nauseous and just really 'off' feeling. I had a small bowl of chicken noodle soup and it made my chest/rib/back pain hurt. I swear I can feel a lump right up where my ribs come together, is that the sternum?? I have never felt this ill in my life. If I lie down I get nauseated but it comes in waves. Every 5 to 10 minutes. I haven't thrown up but i've never been a barfer even when pg both times. I'm really getting scared. Don't know if I can make it another week before seeing the gastro doc.

I hate how doctors just keep putting you off all the time. You just wonder what to do. :(
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replied January 25th, 2005
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Gallbladder to Heather
Haredresserd,

boy we sure do sound alike. I felt like headed to the er a few times & telling them to admit me & do what you gotta' do to figure this craziness out. It's terrible & worse not knowing. Am anxious to see what the surgeon says tomorrow. I really want to see a gastro dr myself before anything else happens. I to am not a barfer...But man this nauseation is no fun. Soup is about all I can eat as well. Won't even drive my car, afraid of passing out because feeling so lightheaded at times. This is my first day feeling sick to my stomach though. The pain was bad enough. Feel so sapped of energy.

Hope all goes well with you & if it gets too bad...Do get yourself to the er...
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replied January 25th, 2005
Blue Streak
Hey blue streak,

i private messaged you... I use a diff email addy in here... Not sure if you do to... Wanted to give you a headsup to check your email. :)
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replied March 4th, 2012
pancreas
hi, heather and friend,, I have been going through the same thing for a little over a year now, they did find a narrowing of the bile duct ...so every six months I have to get a new stent put in to keep it open...I went to Vancouver had a special test for the pancreas there and it came back fine, my bloodmy fine ....then last week only five months later I had this stabbing pain in my stomach to my back that radiated to the right side doubled me over and ended up in ER, my blood was fine still.....I went and saw my gastro specialist and he sent me for an emergency unltrasound....now the doctor that reads this ultra sound says the stricture in my bile duct has grown three times the size and all my organs are inflammed.....I see my specialist with results and am headed to Vancouver for the pancreas test on the 13th of this month very quickly so don't wait, and by the way...that is the only day since I have been sick that I actually had any elevation or showed any inflammation in my blood work.....
don't give up
maybe talk to him about your bile duct narrowing.....
sincerely
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replied October 31st, 2012
Gallbladder polyps and miserable! Really, miserable!
Hi, I came across this blog trying to get some answers for myself, before I go a tad crazy. The head issues "pain, all dizziness," etc are terrible and the gallbladder and stomach are excruciating on some days. I, originally was incorrectly diagnosed. I had H pylori, too. Go figure. You would think I live in a third world country. I had been on 14 pills, two antibiotics and the rest proton pump inhibitors, and pepto bismol, for over two weeks and then one antibiotic for another week. They don't think the H pylori is all cleared up, but I have the polyps so I am seeing a surgeon tomorrow am. Have any of you gotten any answers? They surgeon I am going to is supposedly very good and I am going to tell him about the blog and ask him his thoughts. I will post them too. I am would love some email addresses, so we could talk to one another. Thanks and I hope you are all doing better!
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replied March 24th, 2005
Anonymous
Gallbladder
Well well I have a 17 yr old daughter who is a very smart girl in school and she hasn't been in school since jan , she's in alot of pain and she has problems with her ribcage , sore sides, back , last week I took her to the er and they gave her an inhalation . Now I feel she's being a guinea pig for them because they don't know what to do with her . She's had upper gi, 3 ultrsounds, the light put down , biopsies , she's on pentaloc pills for her stomach . The biopies came back ok , her stomach is inflamed , and she's got alot of acid in her esophagus
. She does vomit the odd day if she eats, she's at the point where if she eats she will get sick and if she doesn't eat she will get sick . She finds if she sits too long she gets sore and if she moves around too much she gets sore there seems to be no happy medium with her at all.Her pain is all over her chest cavity can anyone help me before I take a nervous breakdown over this
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replied March 24th, 2005
I'm no expert, but if her stomach is inflamed it sounds like it could be gastritis... The symptoms include... Upper abdominal discomfort or pain. Nausea. Vomiting. Diarrhoea. Bad taste in the mouth. Loss of appetite. Indigestion.

Or possibly gastroesophageal reflux disease, or gerd for short. Acid reflux from these conditions can cause feelings of chest pain. The four major symptoms of gerd are--heartburn (uncomfortable, rising, burning sensation behind the breastbone). Regurgitation of gastric acid or sour contents into the mouth. Difficult and/or painful swallowing. Chest pain.
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replied March 25th, 2005
Anonymous
I think I might have answered you on another board(the name sounds familiar), but I also have gb polyps and an inflammed gb wall. Did your ultrasound show any inflammation or thickening of the gb wall? That could be causing the pain you are feeling. I suffer from awful nausea everyday(some days better than others), pain under right rib cage that goes to my back between shoulder blades, bloating, fatigue and dizziness. My hida scan came back normal as well. I have had low blood pressure ever since I was pregnant with my son and these gb problems started a year and a half ago. I am scheduled to have my gb removed on the 29th. Can't wait for that day! :wink:
hope you get some relief soon :(
donna
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replied March 26th, 2005
Holy crippen - are you guys in my head or something???..

I've been suffering for about 2 years now...With the following symptoms..

- pain in rib cage - feeling like someone took a baseball bat to me..
- waking up in pain in the mornings - with a hard pain in the back of my ribcage.. Sometimes going through to the front.
- occasional sharp stabbing pains in front right hand side
- right front ribcage pain
- numb spot in right side of abdomen, I can feel it when sitting down, and sometimes after eating, I can sort of feel the food, but can't feel my stomach ? Does that make sense
- pain up into right side of shoulderblaces
- the pain in the front right hand side, goes down to the front middle, and sometimes to the front bottom right hand sides too
- throbbing like a toothache, just in the rib cage ( or so it seems ) right side of back.. In the middle


relief from getting up from horizontal from the pain when I get up in the morning... And usually after i've had something to eat or drink.. But , then it's back a couple of hours later

dont'usually feel pain when I go to bed, but this last week, its more or less constant pain, from all directions

i've found myself researching "impacted colon" & all the symptoms & wonder whether we're all blaming gallbladder when maybe it could be something else?..
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replied March 26th, 2005
Experienced User
Hi interested*party,

i know my problems are definitely not anything to do with my colon. I had an colonscopy & a barium enema & all was fine in that area... Also had an upper endoscope, so it's not my esophagus or stomach, duodenum etc... Have had cat scan's & ultra sounds,...Etc etc. Etc... All things point to my gb...

Hope you've been to the dr with al the pain your suffering.

Blue
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replied March 26th, 2005
Experienced User
Hi donna,
yes I do believe you posted a reply to me on another board. My ultra sound from a couple months ago did not show any inflammation or wall thickening. I do have a second ultrasound before I see the surgeon monday to schedule surgery. Found out the first ultrasound they did, they should have rolled me around to see if the polyp is actually a stone... Wondering at this point if my gb will show inflammation. No let up with the symptoms. It just keeps getting worse. Now to top it all off-- I constantly feel like there's cramping or burning in between my ribs over my stomach. Not like typical heart-burn, it's a more strange feeling. Uggg it's been horrible the last few days. At one point today felt like someone was squeezing my insides in the area... Ever had this?

Hope your surgery goes well on the 29th. You were supposed to have it on the 22nd...Is that right?

Blue
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replied March 26th, 2005
Anonymous
Hi blue streak,

yes I was suppose to have my surgery the 22nd but they bumped me to the 29th(this darn waiting is killing me!!).
Seems like everything your going through I go through as well!! Last night I was up till about 3 am with what felt like someone punched me in the stomach, and the usual ache under right rib cage, and through my back...Must have been that tiny piece of hotdog I indulged in :roll:
when I had the ultrasound done the tech. Made me do "log rolls" while she checked my gb and kidneys. She took her sweet time around the gb area so I kind of figured something was up. I have basically been living off of crackers and dry cereal and once in a while I indulge but pay for it later. When surgery day comes I will be running to get this thing outta me. Can't wait!! :wink:
let us know the results of your ultrasound and surgeon appt.! Hopefully you get some answers!
Donna
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replied March 27th, 2005
Experienced User
Donna,
that feeling of being punched in the gut...That's a good way to describe it. Do you have problems with the pain at times even when you don't eat anything bad? I do at times & it so frustrating. The surgeon's office has me on emergancy call in for monday. He was on vacation this past week, of course & I had an acute attack... I think the way they talked, they will schedule my surgery when I see him...& it will probably be next week. I'll have to do some pre-op testing this week. Boy i'm nervous, but it's only getting worse & needs to be done...

Keep us posted on how things go for you this week,
heather
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replied March 27th, 2005
Anonymous
Yes I do get the pains even without eating anything. I can tell mine is just getting worse as last night a glass of water gave me pain!
I will definately keep you posted on how it goes. May be a few days but will try. :wink:

donna
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replied March 28th, 2005
Experienced User
Donna,
I see the surgeon tomorrow. Was hoping for today... Had my second ultrasound this morning & they rolled me. The tech asked me when the last ultrasound was... 2.5 months ago. So i'm a bit nervous as to what she may have seen.... Won't know the results for a couple days... I got chest pain after I left though, but they've now subsided... I think her pushing on that area aggravated my gb.... :(

will be thinking of you tomorrow...

Heather
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replied March 28th, 2005
Anonymous
Heather,

that's great! At least your getting somewhere now!
I had dull aches under my ribs after the ultrasound . I was fine during it but then when I got home the aches started.
Tomorrows the "big day" ...A little nervous but more anxious to get this diseased old thing outta there.
Will keep ya posted on how it goes.
Good luck on your meeting with the surgeon!

Donna
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replied March 28th, 2005
Experienced User
Donna,
wish I would have stuck with this surgeon a couple months ago when I first met with him... I could have had this darn thing outta' me already...But oh no I had to be stubborn... :) I kept telling myself, it's not my gb...No no no... Kinda' hard to deny at this point...

Take care,
heather
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replied September 24th, 2011
i should have gone to surgeon first also.
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replied March 28th, 2005
Anonymous
13 Year Old With Pain
My 13 year old daughter is going thru the same things you are mentioning. Er 3 times, 3 ultrasounds, 1 ct scan. All normal. Just had the hida last thursday and we're still waiting on results. Something tells me that it will be normal too. I just don't know what to do anymore. It is so hard to see my child lying there shaking from pain. It lasts from 2 to 4 hours at a time. The gi doctor says its ibs, but I just can't imagine that, the pain is in the upper right area under the ribs. Sometimes goes into her back. Sometimes its right next to her belly button on the right side and into her back.

Maybe it is the ibs I just don't know...The pain is so bad and she takes the bentyl three times a day 40 mgs...So I think if it was ibs the bentyl would be working. My husband even brings it to her everyday at school so that she doesn't miss a dose.

If anyone has any other suggestions on something I can ask about, any other tests to request, please let me know.

She is missing so much school and she's an honor student, i'm so worried that she may be held back...She's due to start high school next year.

Please, any help.......Thanks
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replied March 29th, 2005
Hi blue_streak!

Yes, i've seen the doctors, and they've referred me to the hospital here to have the colonoscopy and the endoscopy.. And yes, I know exactly what you mean by the constant aching under the right rib cage..

Like you - I have periods where the pain is gone, and life goes on as usual, but when it's there it's there .. And it's getting harder & harder to ignore... The thing that freaks me out, is that the pain is there, but I still have the numb spot... It feels like I have a baby's foot jammed in between my ribs & my waistline.. Does that make sense..


Jfern.. I get pains next to my belly-button too... But not as often..
:(.. I hope your daughter finds the help she needs - cnronic pain is no picnic..


:(..
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replied April 13th, 2011
Gallbladder???
Someone help! I am a 31 year old woman that has been having rib abdominal pain for the past 6 months continuous. I have done all tests such as blood work, fine, ultrasound, fine, heida scan, fine. I have been to a specialist and he cannot figure out why I am in pain. I have not eaten any solid foods in over 3 weeks and when I do they all just come back up. I have have soft to watery stool which is yellow in colour and I wake up with the pain every morning. Sometimes it is a dull aching pain to a severe pain in which I have been to emergency twice in which they just give me pills, pills, or more pills. I cannot go on like this my head is foggy and cannot function on a day to day basis. I sleep a lot and cannot seem to find the energy for anything. Gallbladder disease runs in my family on my mother's side, everyone has had it removed......what is going on?
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