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Chronic Epididymitis (Page 6)


April 17th, 2010
There must be alot of people around the world that had success in treating there epididymitis, because it comes and goes which tells us it can be treated or atleast manageable but dr''s leave us no other options besides antibiotics, so if anyone knows of any herbs or anything that helps ease the pain ,it would be greatfully appreciated, feel free to write me everyone we all have the same problem. Good Luck
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replied April 27th, 2010
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Hi,

Has anyone of you found any other treatments or something that it has worked for them with this condition. Please let us know.
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replied May 10th, 2010
I am aged 60 and have suffered on and off for five years. Now I am in a period of chronic discomfort. I wondered if having the offending testicle removed is a solution? I am not wanting any more children and understand that having one testicle removed will not cause sexual malfunction. Why has this solution - is it a solution - never been mentioned in these posts?
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replied May 10th, 2010
nigelrey: This is probably the easiest solution. My doctor did talk about it, but he did not recommend it since I am 25 years old (and have no kids yet). The procedure should be really easy and quick. If I were you I would really consider it (hell, I am considering it now).
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replied May 10th, 2010
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Anyone of you have any other updates about what else has worked for you guys. I heard of wheatgrass, silver shield, anti-fungus supplements. Have any of you have had good results. I have used tons of different things from western medicine, homeopathic, herbs, vitamins and minerals to also nerve blocks to freeze the nerves there in that area. I also hear different things from many of you about ejaculating. Some of you indicate not to do but others do. From what the urologists have told me ejaculating once or twice a week is good for your body and to clean those tubes/pipes there. I know you guys maybe think that the sperm is going to get clogged but if you think about it I think ejaculating cleans that area. Is like brushing our teeth we need to do that in order to have them clean. What do you think and please provide any treatment that has worked for you? It will help us a lot. thanks.
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replied May 26th, 2010
Healed
Well guys, after six months of dealing with testicular pain, I'm pretty much healed. No I didn't take any Chinese herbs, anti-fungus supplements or any other shots in the dark. I focused on my lifestyle and my mental health.

I decided to see both a pelvic floor specialist and a counselor for my anxiety. Using both in tandem gave me IMMEDIATE relief.

The pelvic floor specialist identified some trigger points in my pelvis. I used what's called a Theracane to put pressure on them daily, loosening them up.

The counselor helped me get some of my emotions out - some pertaining to my pain, some not. Being able to talk to someone objectionable whom I didn't know personally was a relief on my mind and stress levels. Doing this undoubtedly helped me relax my pelvic muscles and allowed for my physical therapy to start healing those muscles.

I still have main every now and then, but I feel 10 times better. I wish you guys luck.
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replied May 26th, 2010
Hi
Hi boys,

I'm in similar situation. I get the infection about 16 months ago. I took many medicine, with more or less success.

Only some idea, I may be right about some things, although I could not fully solve my problem.

When you take antibiotics, it should last at least six weeks. 10-14 days course is not enough. The reason, is if you have any bacteria in your epididymis, you must have them in your prostate also, and the eradication them from prostate takes a long time. If someone is so lucky, that a short course of antibiotics solved his problem for a shorter or longer time, he should try to take the pills for at least six weeks. But in some cases I was told even six months! Unfortunately the antibiotics, which I took, did not reduced my problems in my epididymis.

About yeasts. Since I've been through many types of antibiotics, I also had the idea, that there is yeast in my prostate/testicle. So I went to the hospital, where the cultivation tests were executed, and ask, if there can be any type of yeast, which can not be cultivated. But I was told that, those all can be cultivated easily. At least, here in Hungary this test is a simple test, costs about 20-30 USD, I do not think, that it is much more expansive in other countries.

On the other hand I found in the literature, that there are yeasts, which need longer time for cultivation, about 10-14 days, but I could not ask the specialist, if these can cause problems in epididymis. (these usually infect skin).

So if anybody afraid of having fungal infection try to go to a hospital for a test.
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replied May 26th, 2010
Hi magic7508

The ejaculation do not help me.
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replied June 3rd, 2010
Some of you mentioned seeing a pelvic floor specialist and/or doing pelvic floor excercises. Since I don't know if I even have any pelvic floor specialists in my area, could you maybe describe what they do or what excercises do you do? It might help all of us.
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replied June 3rd, 2010
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I agree too hopefully he can describe some of those exercises so we can do them. For example, what are the positions? the variations and how to do them.

Please respond Dsteak
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replied June 3rd, 2010
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I agree too hopefully he can describe some of those exercises so we can do them. For example, what are the positions? the variations and how to do them.

Please respond Dsteak
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replied June 8th, 2010
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Christianmayer do they treat this specific disease there? do you have this condition? or are you just promoting that website people in this forum are really having a difficult life because of this illness. We're very serious about this about finding a solution
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replied June 9th, 2010
My Routine
Sure guys, here is what I know:

Pelvic Floor Specialist - Try your best to find one in your area. I had to call several hospitals and looked on Google and I eventually found one in my area. I'm sure you will be able to find one at least in your state.

What she did for me was to help me find trigger points in my pelvic floor. I have two extremely sore spots on the back of my thighs, right between the muscle and the bone. She identified those spots and showed me how to message them.

This is where the Theracane comes into play, which you can find on ebay. The Theracane allows you to message yourself in places where your hands simply can't effectively do the job.

So, you can probably get away with seeing the pelvic floor specialist only once or twice to help you find those trigger points, and then from there on it's up to you to do daily messages with the theracane to hopefully loosen those muscles up!

Stretching helps too. Here are a few that I try to do every day -

1. Lay on your back and lift your knees as far up to your chest as possible. Hold the position for 30 seconds or so, and repeat several times.

2. Lay on your back, pull up one of your legs and bend the knee. Then cross your opposite leg over the bent knee, so your ankle rests on it. Pull back with your hands on the bent knee and repeat several times for each leg.

3. Stand with your back against a wall. Crouch down, stretching out your thighs and such. There should be about six inches between you and the floor.

4. Sit in a butterfly position. Lean your head down for 10 seconds or so, and repeat.

I've also noticed relief after going for runs around the neighborhood.

So here is my routine:

1. Do some form of exercise (run, tennis, whatever), but at least go for a walk.

2. Take a hot bath to loosen the muscles.

3. Do your stretching techniques.

4. Message your trigger points with the Theracane. Use some kind of lotion.

Now, I am not completely healed by any means, but doing this routine AND seeing a counselor for my anxiety produced about three weeks of complete relief. The pain has sense returned, but I now know these methods work and the pain won't be around forever - which for me was the heart of the issue and my anxiety.

I hope this helps for you guys. Let me know if you have any questions.
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replied June 10th, 2010
One more thing...
I alluded to this in my previous post but I want to highlight it.

For me, and possibly for some of the rest of you, my source of anxiety was the simple fact that I didn't know if the pain would ever go away.

Today, I feel sore, but the difference between today and two months ago is vast because I have had weeks of relief. Those weeks of relief were a HUGE sigh of relief, but not just because I was pain free. They were a sigh of relief because I now know there is hope and it won't be there forever.

For me, this whole issue is 90 percent mental. Before, when the pain would show up during the day, I'd start panicking, and the same thoughts would re-enter my head. "When is it going to go away?" "Will I have this forever?" It truly was a vicious cycle.

However, now that I have had relief, I don't worry about it when it becomes sore. I just think, "OK, it's sore." And that's it. No more worrying about it.

Where the therapy I spoke of in the previous post comes into play, is it will give you relief - probably not permanently, but at least temporarily. These hours, days or hopefully weeks of relief should help the mental "worry wheel" begin to slow down.

Once you can stall your anxiety regarding the issue and take the therapy seriously, by following a routine, you will begin to have days of relief.

This is the position I'm in right now. I'll have a couple days of relief, and a couple days of pain - a huge improvement from where I was.

Now, all this worked for me because I have strained my pelvic muscles by involuntarily clinching them very much throughout the day. If you have a legitimate infection, I doubt this is the right course of action.

HOWEVER, I was told by the hospital doctor and the urologist that I had epiditymitis as well, but though tons of research, I learned that to be false. I wonder if the same is true for some of you?
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replied June 27th, 2010
Natural cure and health regiment for chronic Epididymitis
If you are just experiencing pain from chronic Epididymitis and no longer have a bacterial infection then I think I have a good natural program to rid yourself of the daily inflammation and discomfort that occurs. It's a pretty tough health and food regiment but it gave me complete relief after 30 days. Before that I had chronic, mild pain for 3 years and tried most of the things that others have mentioned in this post. My doctors gave me antibiotics a few times which cured the infection but they had no answer for the continued discomfort. One doctor said that it is just inflammation and sometimes you just have to live with it, and then he gave me an example like tennis elbow and other persistent inflammation problems.

I'm not a doctor or anything but if you are experiencing chronic epididymitis and the bacterial infection has already been cured than the discomfort is coming from persistent inflammation of the epididymis which for some reason just won't go away. I will describe some of the tactics and food intake recommendations that helped me. I'm not sure what exactly cured my discomfort so I will give you a general picture of my regiment and what I recommend most. But it is still up to you to devote consistant time and energy in removing these specific items from your diet as well as being conscious of unnecessary physical epididymis stress.

What I recommend first and what I attribute most of my recovery to is Apple Cider Vinegar.
Drink Raw, Unfiltered, Organic Apple Cider Vinegar 2-3 times a day. For each serving put 3 teaspoons of vinegar in to 6-8 ounces of water. Make sure the apple cider comes with 'the mother'. The best brand of apple cider vinegar is Bragg which you can find at most health food stores.
This will promote a healthy body ph level and urinary track, fight inflammation, and provide good nutrients. You can add a little honey or stevia to make it taste better. Drink this everyday and you should finish off a 32oz bottle in 30 days and be well on your way.

No alcohol or caffeine. Eliminate them from your diet until you are completely healed. These drinks make your body ph acidic which exacerbates inflammation. Even 1 beer a week can be a dis-service to your healing process, stop them completely.

Cut out the greasy, fat, and excessively processed foods, these foods exacerbates inflammation. I'm not sure to what extent you need to stop eating these foods but you should vastly cut down on them. I was actually on a specific health diet at the time I found this healing regiment. You may not need to eat like I ate but it will help a lot if you do. Basically I was on the paleo-diet during all of this. The paleo diet is also called the caveman diet; you can search-engine it if you wish to follow it. Following the paleo diet for 30 days or more will boost your chances of a quick recovery. Even if you don't adopt an extremely healthy diet like I did, just make sure you remember to get the junk out of your diet and increase the amount of raw foods that you eat. Don't even think about eating fast-foods during all this.

Remember you are trying to end the seemly endless cycle of inflammation and give the tissues down there time to heal and improve. To do this you must detoxify and limit the inflammation foods in your diet. Apart from the internal regiment I have a few recommendations that you can do externally that may be beneficial as well. Activities like jogging never seemed to make it better or worse for me, but I noticed, depending on how I slept it sometimes made it worse. I found that you should always sleep on your stomach if you are experiencing chronic epididymitis (the epididymis will be on the backside of the testical and will be facing the ceiling when you are on your stomach). Any other position can possibly compress the epididymis or pin it between the testical and your body which can cause some aggravation when it is already very sensitive. When you sleep on your stomach make sure your testicals are freely between your legs. This will allow your epididymis to be unobstructed and have no added physical pressure on it all night long, which will aid in the healing process.

After trying many things for 3 years and having no luck at all, the above practices are finally what got rid of chronic epididymitis for me. I didnâspam�t read this cure in a book or get it from my doctor; it is all from trial and error and close observation. Hopefully it can help other men who have a problem with this too. Best of luck!
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replied June 30th, 2010
For 2 years I have been struggling with diagnosed epididymitis - by 4 different doctors in 3 different countries. I did all kinds of test, urine, semen, no bacterias.

After 1 year they sad I have cysts as well.

Then 2 weeks ago I went to control my 'cysts' to a different doctor, she looked at me and sad: what cysts, You have varicokele...

I am extremely upset, I have taken tons of antibiotics with no reason. The worst thing is that when explaining my problem to doctors I have defined all the typical symptoms of varicokele.

PS
Sorry guys for my english…
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replied July 1st, 2010
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Hi Mike77185, I was going to ask you if you felt some discomfort in your stomach drinking the apple cider vinegar during your treatment? and if so how long did it take your body to adjust to drinking it? Yesterday, I started drinking it I felt and feel some discomfort like bloated, it feels weir. Did you drink it stevia or honey I drank it alone just with water. Please tell me about what other things you did or whatever you think would be useful for me/us to know. I have had this problem for almost 3 years, visited all kinds of Doctors and taken different medicines to changing my diet. I have tried many things with the help of God. Any information or advice is going to help us.
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replied July 1st, 2010
Magic7508, the apple cider may take a little while to get use to. At first it did make my stomach feel queezy if I drank it on an empty stomach (like in the mornings), but just have some food in your stomach and that should help. The first couple weeks I drank it with honey or stevia every time but as I got more use to it I used less and less sweetener and now I'm drinking it plain like a pro with no issues, empty stomach or not. I just put it in plain water, just make sure you don't make it too concentrated or it will take some of the enamel off your teeth!

I know it seems kind of strange to drink something like that but apple cider has been a health remedy for literally thousands of years so don't worry about drinking it. It's really never going to taste good and you'll never fully get use to it but I promise, once you begin to feel relief from the discomfort you will love it and will be looking forward to drinking it every time, everyday. I'm going to continue drinking it for another few months to make sure I'm fully cured.

I didn't have relief until about the forth week of drinking it so you need to be patient and consistent. I'm not sure but I imagine that if you don't rid your diet of the inflammation foods too then the apple cider may only have a negligible affect.
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replied July 1st, 2010
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Thanks Mike77185, yeah my stomach feels some discomfort, bloated just weird. I started taking it two tablespoons of apple cider vinegar in plain water. Maybe I should use a little stevia or honey for the first few days till I get use it. I really want to get better. I have been taking a lot of supplements since I stopped taking western medicine/antibiotics. For 8 months I was better I was taking supplements along with drinking alkaline water and fermented pineapple water(made out of the skin or cover of the pinneapple not the fruit that it is inside) I got better too, I think that fermented water had some anti-inflammatory effects along with other helpful things that helped me a lot. I was just worry about the acid level. Have you heard of this fermented water as well? any other thing you may want to tell me/us I would appreciated a lot. thanks.
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replied July 6th, 2010
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Mike77185,

I still have some of the discomfort in my stomach I took the apple cider (two tablespoons in 8oz of water)for two days but the discomfort in my stomach was just too much. My diet has been very strict for the last 9 months and before that too. I stopped taking the apple cider and started taking the fermented water from the pineapple the symptons in my stomach have not reduced plus the symptoms in my genitals are very much there. Are you taking any medicines like western medicine, natural medicine or any type of supplements. I am taking goldenseal/echinacea, shark cartilage pills, saw palmetto. Please help me.
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