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Are kids less obedient or kind than they were 20 years ago?
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I get the feeling that the kids my daughter goes to school with are miscreants and most of them have been downright cruel. Granted, these are Kindergartners! I think the first time anyone was ever outright nasty to me was in the 5th grade. I also noticed that when I was a preschool teacher, so many of the kids were spiteful to their teacher. We NEVER EVER mouthed off to a teacher when we were in school-EVER! Kids are doing it all the time now. What has happened in the last 20 years to change kids so much? Is it the commonplace circumstance of the dual earner family? Is it the earlier onset of full day childcare? Or is it that children have become overprogrammed and are just acting out because they are held to such a high standard by their parents all the time? What do you thihnk?
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replied February 1st, 2008
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I think they definatley are more rude. i never would dream of saying some of the things i hear said to adults
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replied February 1st, 2008
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Maybe. Parents are perhaps too lenient.
What age group specifically?
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replied February 1st, 2008
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I honestly believe it's because parents just don't want to teach their kids obedience. We can't spank them any more, it's too cruel and we'll go to jail for it. We have to give them a time out (which CAN work if you use it right IMO). I also believe because we have younger mothers that never got along with their mother doesn't want their child to hate them, so they let them do what they want, even if it means mouthing off, hitting, etc. etc. I honestly 'blame' the parents in this situation. A kindergartner doesn't act that way on instinct.
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replied February 1st, 2008
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Oh they're definitely much ruder.

The thing that a couple of people have touched upon is this:
A parent is a parent, NOT a friend. You can be "friends" with your mom and dad, but when it comes down to the grind, they are disciplinarians and dictators. What they say, goes. Period. That's not something to be hated; that's how it's supposed to be so that they can protect their child!!

And yeah. Parents aren't allowed to punish their own kids these days. It's sad.
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replied February 1st, 2008
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I think it's also because schools don't reprimand students like they used to. There should be a zero tolerance rule for swearing, bullying, fighting, etc. in school.
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replied February 1st, 2008
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Oh, but you can't "ostracize" or embarrass the kid!! I'm sorry, but that's one of the most powerful tools. Shame is extremely powerful, moreso than a detention.
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replied February 2nd, 2008
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My fiancee ended up not getting his diploma because he was verbally/emotionally bullied. The counselor said 'they couldn't do anything about it'. Here's an idea, remember those paddle with the holes in them? yea they used to use those in schools, why take them out? IMO.
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replied February 3rd, 2008
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Just a few words that I think are relevant. Hip hop. Bling bling. Pimps, ho's and tricks. Gangster (G's). Commercialism. Marketing. Materialism. The pornification of pop culture. Commodification.

Are we thinking about what our kids are watching/learning/being sold by the media they are bombarded with daily?

We have to fight against these things to instill real values in them.

Just something to ponder.

You can find me in the club, bottle full of bub
Look mami I got the X if you into taking drugs
I'm into having sex, I ain't into making love
So come give me a hug if you into to getting rubbed

I don't know if you got a man or not,
If you made plans or not
God put me in the plans or not
I'm trippin' this drink got me sayin' a lot
But I know that God put you in front of me

So how the hell could you front on me?
There's a thousand you's, there's only one of me
I'm trippin', I'm caught up in the moment right?
This is Louis Vuitton Don night
So we gonna do everything that Kan like
Heard they'd do anything for a Klondike
Well I'd do anything for a blonde-dike
And she'll do anything for the limelight
And we'll do anything when the time's right
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replied February 3rd, 2008
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You know it's gotten out of hand when vending machines in KFC fast food outlets across Canada are found to have stickers showing the trademarked Hello Kitty character being kicked by another cat, who is saying, "Pimp That Ho." KFC's owner, Priszm, removed the machines from their chicken joints nationwide after a parent discovered the stickers in one shop and then others, in Edmonton.

After running a "Pimp My Garden" contest replete with cute "Black Hoe" references from one reader, the Toronto Star got a deserved earful from readers.

brandsonsale.com was marketing a variety of adult and child pimp and ho costumes, including a "child ho" costume. Now there is a more generic costumes-for-sale page at the company's site reflecting a broadened product line; however using their internal search engine, one finds that they still sell adult pimp costumes, adult ho costumes, kids pimp costumes, and for post-ironic animal lovers, a pimp suit dog costume. In a dazzling burst of moral propriety, however, they seem to have discontinued the "child ho" costume. Last month, a national furor of sorts developed after uber-blogger Matt Drudge rightly outed a company named pimpfants, of Portland, Oregon, with a simple picture and link on his site titled "Ho Clothes For Kiddies." Naturally, their server crashed temporarily, but they're back up - peddling the tasteful red with white trim "Jr. Pimp Squad Basketball Set"; a black with hot pink trim "Pimpfants Jersey T;" and a green "'Bling' Velour Hoody Set" for girls.

rap star Nelly was scheduled to appear on the campus of Spelman College earlier this month. The black women's college was teaming up with 4Sho4Kids, a foundation started by Nelly to increase awareness about the need for more African-American bone marrow donors. But as the date approached, a group of students decided that the rapper's latest video, Tip Drill, was far too sexually explicit and demeaning. The phrase "Tip-Drill" refers to an ugly woman with a nice body, good only for sex. In what some see as reinforcing the stereotype of women as a cash-and-carry commodity, Nelly is seen swiping a credit card through a woman's backside.
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replied February 3rd, 2008
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Any other cultural phenomenon leading kids astray, killbill? *raised eyebrow smiley*

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This is tough for me. Every generation complains about the next one.

"Kids these days!"

I think the "adult culture" (the ones raising the kids) is trickling down, and reflected in the yoots. Very Happy
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replied February 3rd, 2008
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The anti-discipline brigade and increasingly lazy parenting are creating a new generation of scum. Kids these days grow up entitlement minded and are never taught social boundaries, manners or responsibility. The few parents that try to raise productive members of society are restricted in what they can do because people can't tell the difference between swatting a brat on the behind and putting them in the corner and punching a kid in the eye and locking them in a dungeon.
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replied February 3rd, 2008
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I'd just like to add that nobody really says "bling bling" anymore except people who don't know that it's "over". Wink

I don't agree with paddling in school. I don't feel it's the teacher's right to raise a hand/paddle/whatever and get physical with a child. Having said that, I do think schools should be more strict with punishment for swearing, bullying, and other disruptive behavior.
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replied February 3rd, 2008
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AyaMiyaki wrote:
I'd just like to add that nobody really says "bling bling" anymore except people who don't know that it's "over". Wink.


Tell that to my 6 year old neice and her classmates. She named her cat Blingbling. They may not know that it's over but it trickles down to them nonetheless. Especially the kids who have young parents who don't know any other culture besides that one.
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replied February 3rd, 2008
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Watch out Killbill!!!! I said I didn't like rap or the cultural influences it has, and I got called racist by Birch for weeks!!!
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replied February 3rd, 2008
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Sounds like you're gathering tinder there. ^
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replied February 3rd, 2008
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i actually think killbill made a good point.

Society and television have a lot of influence over our kids. don't say they don't, we all know they do. From the time they are toddlers and see a toy on TV that they just HAVE to have, to being a teen and seeing girls on shows like The Hills dressing a certain way and just HAVING to be like them. We're all influenced by society. My cousins were pimps for Halloween a few years ago.. and my aunt thought it was *cute* and *funny*. I thought it was wrong and disturbing. Why let your children saunter around representing something so demoralizing and dirty? Would she have the same reaction if they came home one day and actually WERE a pimp or a hoe? I hope not. Its the same thing. Allowing it is condoning it is justifying it.

If people would get their heads out of their asses and stop trying to be like everyone else we wouldn't have such a problem with influence ruining our children.
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replied February 3rd, 2008
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Is TV a reflection of society, or is society molded by TV?
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replied February 3rd, 2008
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Birch wrote:
Is TV a reflection of society, or is society molded by TV?


i think its a little bit of both, actually.

It seems its always going to about shock factor.. trying to "one up" somebody to make more money, or be more popular.
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replied February 4th, 2008
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ill agree with the society being molded by tv. I notice a lot of kids imitating what they see there.
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