November 12th, 2007
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So, if the dogs are well behaved, why do they need these shock collars and gates? Plus, if these are your dogs....why did Travis' parents have these things installed for a temporary boarder?


so we can leave the gates open and they wont come up the stairs
and me and travis bought these and put them in
we got the gates first then after kasie would sit and cry and cry at the top of the stairs at the gate we decided to contact this place here called bark busters. they are trainers and i know a guy named todd whom i worked with on a reascue one time. we told him the situation and he told us that we could buy the electric device like the one we have on our fence line and install it at the top of the stairs so kasie would stop whining all the time. it sure did teach her a lesson and ever since shes been doing great
she even sleeps in a crate now with penut
they go in there on thier own and everything

max and bruiser have always had shock collars for the fence. they ALWAYS used to dig everywhere and so thats when we got the electric fence outside
but thier collars work on the gate too Smile
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replied November 13th, 2007
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I posted on here when our puppy snapped at Jays face if you remember. And she was right on my lap, jay was sat right next to me, so its definately true that you dont need to leave them unattended for anything to happen!

She still snaps at his fingers if he gets in her face too much. Im not 100% convinced we'll end up keeping her to be honest. I dont know because I love dogs, I'd wanted one for a long time before finally getting Laney, shes like a child as Suzy said, you love them like you do your kids because they depend on you for everything and all they want to do is be with you, she sleeps in my bed!

Jay teases her like kids/boys do, so when she snaps at him its provoked, but its still not right....

I waited until he was 4yrs old before getting a dog so he was old enough to understand how to respect her and defend himself IF anything ever happened, plus I now have time for a dog. Sometimes I think I should have waited until he was like 12 because then he wouldnt tease her. (I got a small breed so if anything happened she wouldnt be able to cause as much damage as a bigger dog)

Suzy I have to agree with the others. Im sure you love all your dogs so much, they are like your kids. But when your baby arrives, you'll know a whole different kind of love, you will love her more than anything else in the world. She'll be more important to you than any of your dogs. Her safety will be your number one concern, and I really think you'll change your mind about keeping so many dogs.

Another thing to think about, kristin will take up most of your time, realistically you aren't going to have enough time to look after those dogs properly or give them the attention they deserve. Like Michelle just said her dog is tied up outside most of the time (no offence michelle -I totally understand that) Suzy if you love your dogs as much as you say you do, you wont want that for them. They want to be with their owners, part of the family not left outside...even if they have other dogs to be with, they want to be with YOU and they deserve to be. They should be with someone who has lots of time for them, not someone who will be constantly busy with a baby....dont you think so?

How are you going to walk 4 dogs, which must be difficult enough, but now with a baby in a pram aswell?

How are you going to have time to care for them all and give them enough attention when you will be caring for kristin 24/7, you also said before you will be working again soon after having her, AND returning to your home school program?

Sorry this post is so long! You can tell I love dogs, im talking more about their welfare than kristins! I think they are both big issues though.

EDIT-Michelle im so sorry that happened to Kaylee Sad Hope shes okay now. I cant imagine seeing a dog go after a baby. Maybe she was pulling on him too much or something? Theres only so much a dog will tolerate, and thats understandable isnt it? But some dogs are so good they just walk away once they've had enough like Zanny's parents dog does.
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replied November 13th, 2007
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Thanks for the response. No Kaylee wasn't doing anything to Duke when he bit her, she was walking around him, to get to her toys (She thinks she has to pile all of her toys up in front of him) & he chomped onto her ear. She's fine though. Shane worked nights lastnight but when he wakes up later we're getting rid of him. I kind of feel bad because he looks at me with those puppy dog eyes but he's not about to do this again to my baby.
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Wow i'm sorry it happened to Kaylee but atleast it wasn't more serious, i guess that's the only good thing. I'd do the exact same thing if Murphy ever touched Mika, he's be out that door so fast
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replied November 13th, 2007
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How come every single topic leads to a debate over Suzy? I just dont get it sometimes...
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This isn't a debate over Suzy, they are just trying to give her advise
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I mean if they are trying to give her advice and she said at first that shes not goin to take it than drop it...you cant force someone to take ur advice and get mad if they choose not to.
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replied November 13th, 2007
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Nobody was debating. A few of us on here know from experience what pets can do & we're trying to make her see that instead of thinking all of her dogs would never do wrong.
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I honestly think she needs to hear the advice, whether she wants to take it or not.
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I just dont see the point of everyone getting sooo upset over the internet..theres really nothing you can do ya know?
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I agree......the only way for Suzy to know how many dogs that she will be able to take care of is to try it and see what works for her. I know that everyone on here is concerned for Kristen but only time will tell. Not all dogs are bad. Yes they do require some of your time but honestly Suzy needs to experience that for herself.

I agree with you Suzy about not wanting to get rid of any because they are like members of your family. I have had my dog since I was pregnant with my daughter (5.5 yrs) and so far I have been lucky. Once my daughter was at an age to understand I taught her how to be nice to the dog and to never bug when he was eating. She learned and now they get along great. He is very gentle with her and protective of her. I don't agree with people who just get rid of their dog because they don't have time for them.....to me that is mean and those people should have never got a dog to begin with.

Suzy just maybe keep an open mind.......as it stands right now you are gonna keep the dogs and that may be fine for now, but please once the baby is here if you can't handle 6 dogs then maybe try to make other arrangements because not only is not fair to the dogs to not get the attention they need but it could lead to other problem behaviours, which could result in something bad happening. I am not being harsh or trying to tell you what to do, remember I am the type to not give up on my pets (unless they did something like hurt someone) but I just want you to be realistic and be really observant of any changes in your dogs personality. Some dogs are just better off in homes that don't have children. So please just keep an open mind.

Dogs and children can exist in the same house.......it just takes time and patience. I am ttc again and I would never think well I should get rid of my dog because I am gonna have a baby.........if my dog started showing aggressive behaviour towards the baby than yes I would consider it without a doubt. So maybe lets give Suzy a break and let her try it for herself.
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replied November 13th, 2007
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Wow I totally agree Shanyan
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So sorry this happened to your little girl. Glad she's ok!!!
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Thank you Smile
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replied November 13th, 2007
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Btw I was saying thank you to Daniella, not to you mamaTT. I didn't want anyone to say " what it wasn't your little girl" ...lol
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replied November 13th, 2007
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no one said dogs couldnt exist in the same house.

we're just trying to warn her of what can happen, and to be prepared.. Se seems to think her dogs arent capable of violence.. all we ask is that she recognize that they arent perfect and are still animals, and animals by nature have violent tendancies. Thats not to say they will show them, but its possible if they feel they are being provoked, or ignored.

Which to me is inevitable, having 6 dogs and a newborn baby. We had a beagle when Caty was just a newborn... had to get rid of her because i just couldnt do it. We gave her to a lady that trains beagles as rescue dogs. She had no kids, wasnt married, and i knew she could give the dog the attention she needed.

With that being said, i understand her dogs are close to her.. but there comes a time when shes going to have to choose between those dogs and her baby. Having that many dogs in 1 house is unhealthy for a baby... dander, pet hair, germs... that stuff commutes thru the house no matter where u keep them.
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replied November 13th, 2007
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Shanyan wrote:
I agree......the only way for Suzy to know how many dogs that she will be able to take care of is to try it and see what works for her. I know that everyone on here is concerned for Kristen but only time will tell. Not all dogs are bad. Yes they do require some of your time but honestly Suzy needs to experience that for herself.

I agree with you Suzy about not wanting to get rid of any because they are like members of your family. I have had my dog since I was pregnant with my daughter (5.5 yrs) and so far I have been lucky. Once my daughter was at an age to understand I taught her how to be nice to the dog and to never bug when he was eating. She learned and now they get along great. He is very gentle with her and protective of her. I don't agree with people who just get rid of their dog because they don't have time for them.....to me that is mean and those people should have never got a dog to begin with.

Suzy just maybe keep an open mind.......as it stands right now you are gonna keep the dogs and that may be fine for now, but please once the baby is here if you can't handle 6 dogs then maybe try to make other arrangements because not only is not fair to the dogs to not get the attention they need but it could lead to other problem behaviours, which could result in something bad happening. I am not being harsh or trying to tell you what to do, remember I am the type to not give up on my pets (unless they did something like hurt someone) but I just want you to be realistic and be really observant of any changes in your dogs personality. Some dogs are just better off in homes that don't have children. So please just keep an open mind.

Dogs and children can exist in the same house.......it just takes time and patience. I am ttc again and I would never think well I should get rid of my dog because I am gonna have a baby.........if my dog started showing aggressive behaviour towards the baby than yes I would consider it without a doubt. So maybe lets give Suzy a break and let her try it for herself.


thanks hun! and thanks danielle

ive got SIX dogs
im sorry if some people feel thats a problem? but if in the end i end up haveing to rehome them then ok. until then you DONT know what will happen so DONT sit here and say that "oh this will happen..." or " oh you wont have time for them". because after krissy is 3-6 months old im going back to rescue again too Smile and im going to do the exact same thing i did before.

Michelle how did the shelter thing go? did anyone take him?
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replied November 13th, 2007
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ive got SIX dogs
im sorry if some people feel thats a problem? but if in the end i end up haveing to rehome them then ok. until then you DONT know what will happen so DONT sit here and say that "oh this will happen..." or " oh you wont have time for them". because after krissy is 3-6 months old im going back to rescue again too Smile and im going to do the exact same thing i did before.


ofcourse you will..because your childs health and welfare obviously means nothing to you.

Suzy, having that many dogs in one home around a newborn is just asking her to get sick and stay that way. Any vet AND pediatrician will tell you that its not a good idea to have so many animals in a house with a baby, no matter where you keep them.
Let alone the fact that if that chils starts screaming, (which is what they do 90% of the time) and the dogs get startled, you have no idea what they'll do.
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replied November 13th, 2007
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ive brought it up to my OB about all the dogs
infact the first appt i had with her was like a counseling session and i had to fill out all of this paper work. so the question are there pets in the household
and i put yes
so when she came in to review my paper work i told her i have 6 dogs. she said as long as they maintain yearly vaccinations and heart worm preventative then its okay Smile
which all of our dogs have thier shots done every year and are kept on heart worm meds
the only thing is that if any of our dogs ever got parvo then we would have to get them out of the house because parvo can be spread to humans.
so thats the only thing


so i grew up in a house with 4 dogs, 2 cats, 3 finches and 6 horses? when i was a baby my mom had 2 poms, a pit bull and our chipom. and when my borther an sister were born we had 3 dogs,2 cats, finches flew away and 6 horses
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replied November 13th, 2007
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just becuase it was done doesnt make it right.

:S

Just please accept the fact that having 6 dogs (and 4 after you two move out) is not easy and trust me, you wont be able to handle it very well, if at all.
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