November 14th, 2007
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lo. im done. Very Happy
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replied November 14th, 2007
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iridescent_opal wrote:
lo. im done. Very Happy


lol

Dropped.
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Oh & thanks for the nice responses & the advice that came from my original post.
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This got crrrrazy.
Michelle I am SO sorry for what happened to little Kaylee and I'm very happy to hear that she's okay.
You are doing the right thing , if an animal ever snapped at my child I would break it's neck.
Maybe that sounds cruel ... but seriously you're a very strong person for even dealing with this as well as you have.
Anybody who makes you feel guilty for doing what you know is best for your child is quite frankly an idiot. I'm not butting in , and have nothing bad to say about anybody in this situation ... but this went way too far and I'm sorry it did as I'm sure you already had quite a difficult time with what happened and thinkign abotu what could of happened... you didn't need all of this on top of it.
Thank you for sharing and thats to everyone else who has had this happened and shared it as well, I often think how nice it would be to get a dog for bella especially once we move out... buty I knwo that as a single working mother I wouldn't be able to handle it... and I don't think I could ever trust an animal around her.
Don't get me wrong, I love animals, but things like this happen way to often , and kids are kids ... they are curious and yes I am sure they antagonise it sometimes...but they're kids.
To go so far as to say dogs have human emotions is absolutely ridiculous. Dogs know the basics... but seriously, if they felt like we do , don't you think they would know biting a child is wrong? Give me a break.

Suzy , I get where you are coming from I really do , and in the end it is your choice alone to make.
I understand you don't want to "punish" them before they do anything wrong, but I really think the main thing here was that these girls wanted you to realise these things happen a lot. I'm sure you know that but it's a scary thing ...

I'm young, and belive me I had it ALL planned out when I was pregnant, how it was gonna be, how things were gonna go , everything was perfectly prepared... and even if you say you "know" how hard and unpredictable it is you have NO idea ... not a damn clue until that baby is right in front of you.
I think it's great and you obviously have a big heart doing what you do for these animals ... but six dogs and a baby is A LOT, I'm sorry but it's kind of ridiculous to act as if thats going to be easy and work out... I hope it does.. but you do need to take in to consideration the huge life change that is about to happen .. and take into consideration the effect it will have on you and on the baby and on the dogs.
But nobody can tell you what to do , you have to make that choice...

It's great to hope for the best darling...
but it's a much better idea to prepare for the worst.


(and i'm sorry i added this after it got dropped... i had to add my 2 cents ... I just had to!)
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replied November 14th, 2007
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Jeebus. That sucks.

When I was a kid, my mom got rid of our dog because she grabbed onto my sisters head. She didn't even break the skin, and thankfully my sister doesn't remember it, but it scared my mom.

I'm not worried about our dog Bailey, we've had her for nearly 10 years and my youngest sister is 7, so I know she's good with babies. I'm worried about my dog Velvette, though. She's already shown herself to be nervous around toddlers, and she's growled at my 5 year old cousin before. I'm just going to lock her in the laundry room whenever I have Jayden out downstairs. That won't be too often though, so I'm not too worried.
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onmyway_0x wrote:
(and i'm sorry i added this after it got dropped... i had to add my 2 cents ... I just had to!)


its ok.. as long as u dont degrade somebody for their opinion, and keep it civil, and only offer advice everything is allright.
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onmyway_0x wrote:
This got crrrrazy.
Michelle I am SO sorry for what happened to little Kaylee and I'm very happy to hear that she's okay.
You are doing the right thing , if an animal ever snapped at my child I would break it's neck.
Maybe that sounds cruel ... but seriously you're a very strong person for even dealing with this as well as you have.
Anybody who makes you feel guilty for doing what you know is best for your child is quite frankly an fool. I'm not butting in , and have nothing bad to say about anybody in this situation ... but this went way too far and I'm sorry it did as I'm sure you already had quite a difficult time with what happened and thinkign abotu what could of happened... you didn't need all of this on top of it.
Thank you for sharing and thats to everyone else who has had this happened and shared it as well, I often think how nice it would be to get a dog for bella especially once we move out... buty I knwo that as a single working mother I wouldn't be able to handle it... and I don't think I could ever trust an animal around her.
Don't get me wrong, I love animals, but things like this happen way to often , and kids are kids ... they are curious and yes I am sure they antagonise it sometimes...but they're kids.
To go so far as to say dogs have human emotions is absolutely ridiculous. Dogs know the basics... but seriously, if they felt like we do , don't you think they would know biting a child is wrong? Give me a break.

Suzy , I get where you are coming from I really do , and in the end it is your choice alone to make.
I understand you don't want to "punish" them before they do anything wrong, but I really think the main thing here was that these girls wanted you to realise these things happen a lot. I'm sure you know that but it's a scary thing ...

I'm young, and belive me I had it ALL planned out when I was pregnant, how it was gonna be, how things were gonna go , everything was perfectly prepared... and even if you say you "know" how hard and unpredictable it is you have NO idea ... not a bless clue until that baby is right in front of you.
I think it's great and you obviously have a big heart doing what you do for these animals ... but six dogs and a baby is A LOT, I'm sorry but it's kind of ridiculous to act as if thats going to be easy and work out... I hope it does.. but you do need to take in to consideration the huge life change that is about to happen .. and take into consideration the effect it will have on you and on the baby and on the dogs.
But nobody can tell you what to do , you have to make that choice...

It's great to hope for the best darling...
but it's a much better idea to prepare for the worst.


(and i'm sorry i added this after it got dropped... i had to add my 2 cents ... I just had to!)


Thanks so much! I'm just so happy that it wasn't any worse.
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iridescent_opal wrote:
You have no clue what you are talking about Suzy. Life isn't easy and when you can make it a little easier AND give your pet a better home most people will do so. Selfish people will keep a dog and let it go without attention.


I dont understand why Shanyan and Suzy are saying people giving their dog away because they dont have time for it is an excuse!?

Suzy you're wrong saying dogs only need food, water, shelter.

They need attention, to be played with, cuddled, stroked, made a fuss of, walked, TRAINED!

Anyone who cant give their dogs the ATTENTION THEY DESERVE is a crappy dog owner and should definately find the dog a better home!

How can you insult people who decide to do whats best for their dogs welfare?

You clearly dont love your dogs as much as you say you do, or you would understand all of that. If you love a pet, you make sure it has a good home, and anyone who cant give it all the attention it deserves should find it a better home.

Theres NO WAY you will possible have enough time for 4-6 dogs, a baby, a job, a home schooling program, cooking, cleaning the house, and having a relationship with travis.

Suzy If you think you will, and you only listed the bare essentials a dog needs, it makes me wonder what kind of life those dogs have right now anyway. Do you play with them? Walk them? Train them? (-dogs enjoy being trained to do new commands), cuddle them? Stroke them/make a fuss of them? Daily??

Shanyan wrote:
Yes of course everyone's life changes and there maybe times that your life may not suit the needs of a dog. that is why I wish that people would really think twice about getting a dog before they do.


Thats what happens, its life, things change, you dont rule your life by your dog to that extent. Just because you have a dog means you shouldnt have kids incase you become too busy with being a mother you no longer have time for it? I dont agree with that. People come before dogs. You find the dog a new home if thats the case.

Example-
Say a couple have a dog and decide they only want to have one child, they have plenty of time for the child and the dog. But a few years later they have a change of heart and decide they want at least another 2 kids, but they know with 3 or more kids, working, cleaning the home etc, that the dog will end up not getting the attention it should get. They are wrong to find it a new better home with someone who has plenty of time for it? And they are wrong for deciding to have more kids?

Dogs are a big commitment but they shouldnt stop you from doing what you want in life. At the end of the day no matter how much you love and adore them, they are a pet, an animal, NOT a human family member.

Better they go to a better home than end up being neglected.
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I have a miniature pincher and i would trust her around my baby anytime. The only thing she does is try and lick them all over. Very Happy I watch my neice and nephew a lot, one is 2 and the other is 4-5 months old, and she is great with them. When my nephew is sleeping i will lay him on the couch with a blanket, and she crawls under the blanket and pokes her head out near his and goes to sleep.

She also plays with my neice and keeps her occupied. Like she will bring a dog toy over to her and drop it, then my niece will pick it up and throw it, and she will go get it and bring it back...my niece thinks its hillarious.

Although my dog acts like a person i think, she is like a little mother. She also sleeps in between my legs under the covers every night, and if im upset or crying she will very slowly crawl out from under the covers and come up beside my pillow, lay her head on it and go to sleep. She is so comforting (i dont know what i would do without her)

I do understand though that any dog can turn on a child...and your children should always come first.
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I agree I do think that people that don't have time for their dogs aren't good owners........that is why I wish that people would think twice about getting a dog in the first place.

In my heart I just know that I couldn't give up my dog because I don't have time. It doesn't mean that I ever thought that anyone was a bad person for doing it themselves. I know for some people it is very hard for them to find new homes for their pets and I honestly do feel for them. For me I just couldn't do it (unless of course there was potential for him causing harm to anyone). My dog is a part of my family........if and when I do have another a child (it would #3) then my husband and I will step it up and make time for everyone's needs, including our pets.

Animals do not require crazy amounts of time........as long as there is food and water in his dish he really is quite happy to just sit beside me on the couch. Everyday when my son gets home from school he takes him for a nice walk. We as a family make it work because he is important to us. We all work together and that is what works for us. It doesn't meant that in any way my dog runs my life that is just absurd . It does mean that when I bought him I was making a commitment to take care of him his entire life. Not to get rid of him when it no longer isn't convenient for me to have him. Sometimes it may cause me to have to make special arrangments (like when we go away and stuff) but to me it is worth it.

I understand that this is my opinion and not everyone feels this way and that is fine. I just wish that people wouldn't get a dog for the "sake" of having a dog unless they are in it or the long haul. That's it......that's all I am trying to say.
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replied November 14th, 2007
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ok, i think everything has been covered and now everyone is just going in circles.

locked.
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