November 13th, 2007
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I work in an animal hospital every day surrounded by dogs. They do not have the same cognitive abilities as humans. Go back to school sweetie.
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A RESCUE ORGANIZATION' S ANSWERING MACHINE OUTGOING MESSAGE

Hello, You have reached 123-4567, Tender Hearts Rescue. Due to the high volume of calls we have been receiving, please listen closely to the following options and choose the one that best describes you or your situation:

Press 1 if you think we are veterinarians and want free medical advice.

Press 2 if you know we are a rescue organization but want to save money and have us give you free, untrained medical advice anyway.

Press 3 if you make $200, 000 a year but still want us to pay to spay the "stray" in your yard (house).

Press 4 if you have a 10-year-old dog and your 15-year-old son has suddenly become allergic and you need to find the dog a new home right away.

******Press 5 if you have three dogs, had a baby and want to get rid of your dogs because you are the only person in the world to have a baby and dogs at the same time*****

Press 6 if your dog is sick and needs a vet but you need the money for your vacation.

Press 7 if you just got a brand new puppy and your old dog is having problems
adjusting so you want to get rid of the old one right away

Press 8 if your little puppy has grown up and is no longer small and cute and you want to trade it in for a new model.

Press 9 if you are elderly and want to adopt a cute puppy who is not active and is going to outlive you.

Press 10 if your relative has died and you don't want to care for their elderly dog because it doesn't fit your lifestyle.

Press 11 if you are moving today and need to immediately place your 150 pound, 8-year-old, unneutered, aggressive dog.

Press 12 if you want an unpaid volunteer to come to your home today and pick up the dog you no longer want.

Press 13 if you have been feeding and caring for a "stray" for the last three years, are moving and suddenly determine it's not your dog.

Press 14 if you are calling at 6 a.m. to make sure you wake me up before I have to go to work so you can drop a dog off on your way to work.

Press 15 to leave us an anonymous garbled message, letting us know you have left a dog in our yard in the middle of January, which is in fact, better than just leaving the dog with no message.

Press 16 if you are going to get angry because we are not going to take your dog that you have had for fifteen years, because it is not our responsibility.

Press 17 if you are going to threaten to take your ten year old dog to be euthanized because we can't get to your house in the next hour.

Press 18 if you're going to get angry because the volunteers had the audacity to go on vacation and leave the dogs in care of a trusted volunteer who is not authorized to take your personal pet.

Press 19 if you want one of our perfectly trained, housebroken, kid and cat friendly purebred tiny dogs that we have an abundance of.

Press 20 if you want us to take your dog that has a slight aggression problem, i.e. has only bitten a few people and killed your neighbor's cats.

Press 21 if you have already called once and been told we don't take personal surrenders but thought you would get a different person this time with a different answer.

Press 22 if you want us to use space that would go to a stray to board your personal dog while you are on vacation, free of charge, of course.

Press 23 if it is Christmas Eve or Easter morning and you want me to deliver an eight week old puppy to your house by 6:30 am before your kids wake up.

Press 24 if you have bought your children a duckling, chick or baby bunny for
Easter and it is now Christmas and no longer cute.

Press 25 if you want us to take your female dog who has already had ten litters, but we can't spay her because she is pregnant again and it is against your religion.

Press 26 if you're lying to make one of our younger volunteers feel bad and take your personal pet off your hands.

Press 27 if your cat is biting and not using the litter box because it is declawed, but are not willing to accept the responsibility that the cat's behavior is altered because of your nice furniture.

Press 28 if your two year old male dog is marking all over your house but you just haven't gotten around to having him neutered.

Press 29 if you previously had an outdoor only dog and are calling because she is suddenly pregnant.

Press 30 if you have done "everything" to housebreak your dog and have had no success but you don't want to crate the dog because it is cruel.

Press 31 if you didn't listen to the message asking for an evening phone number and you left your work number when all volunteers are also working and you are angry because no one called you back.

Press 32 if your dog's coat doesn't match your new furniture and you need a different color or breed.



Press 33 if you need a puppy immediately and cannot wait because today is your daughter's birthday and you forgot when she was born.

Press 34 if your new love doesn't like your dog and you are too stupid to get rid of the new friend (who will dump you in the next month anyway) instead of the dog.

Press 35 if you went through all these 'presses' and didn't hear enough. This press will connect you to the sounds of tears being shed by one of our volunteers who is holding a discarded old dog while the vet mercifully frees him from of the grief of missing his family.
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iridescent_opal wrote:
I work in an animal hospital every day surrounded by dogs. They do not have the same cognitive abilities as humans. Go back to school sweetie.


statistics?

just because you work at an animal hospital doesnt meen you know if a dog has human emotions or what emotions there able to have... dogs cant talk
so we dont know
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Suzy please just stop already! Do you realize what an idiot you look like posting all that stupid shit??
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Yes of course everyone's life changes and there maybe times that your life may not suit the needs of a dog. that is why I wish that people would really think twice about getting a dog before they do.

I have had my dog for 5.5 yrs and things for me have definitely changed but I would never use the I don't have time as a reason to get rid of my dog. And because I give my dog attention doesn't mean that I am not a good parent to my children. In fact I think that I have taught my children how to respect animals. We as a family take pride in our pets happiness. It makes my children happy when our pets are happy. It gives them a sense of responsibility.
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im sorry if you think ist stupid michelle

thats your opinion
and you love animals?
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iridescent_opal:

No one can say for certain what a dog is thinking, says the University of Minnesota’s resident "pet shrink," Petra Mertens. But dogs and cats definitely do have thoughts and emotions.

"They readily display emotional responses like aggression or fear," says Mertens, an assistant professor and board-certified veterinary animal behaviorist in the University’s College of Veterinary Medicine. "Animals dream, too— you can see that when they sleep. Dogs have all the same brain elements we do and process things in a very similar manner."

These similarities don’t mean you and Spot are communicating at the same level, however.

"Humans see animal behaviors in anthropomorphic ways. A common example: A dog urinates in the house. The owner comes home and sees a spot on the carpet. The dog has his head down and his tail between his legs. Is he remorseful? No. The dog is responding to signals from the owner— stiffening, a more aggressive tone—with submissive gestures, trying to diffuse the tension he senses."

Guess the key to unlocking what your dog is thinking is to first know thyself. So the search continues.

Dr. Mertens and her colleagues Drs. Margaret Duxbury and Lorna Reichl offer pet behavior consultations at the U of M College of Veterinary Medicine’s Veterinary Teaching Hospital in St. Paul. Services include diagnosis and treatment of aggression, compulsive disorder, separation anxiety, fears and phobias in dogs, cats, birds, horses and other companion animals.

http://www.cvm.umn.edu/newsandevents/facts /petsafety/Driven_to_Discover_Q26A.html
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What statistics do you need? There is no way a dogs feels the way a human feels. They in no way have the same COGNITIVE abilities as humans and therefor can not access the situation as clearly. Yes, they have emotions, but they in no way relate to humans. Dogs do not have human emotions because they ARE NOT HUMAN! DURR
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Yes I do love animals but I would never compare my daughter to a dog. Sorry.

I'm sorry everyone! I'm a horrible mother! I'd rather spend more time with Kaylee than take care of a dog.
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So they have fear and they have anger. That does not equate their mental capacity to humans.
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guys please just stop all of this everyone has there own right for there own opinions that is why it is called a free country you wont be able to change anyones minds so there really is no need to keep argueing over it ok please just stop now im begging all of you
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OctoberBaby06 wrote:
Yes I do love animals but I would never compare my daughter to a dog. Sorry.

I'm sorry everyone! I'm a horrible mother! I'd rather spend more time with Kaylee than take care of a dog.


no one said that your a horrible mother
but before you adopted duke maybe you should have thought about the "what ifs" that could happen upon adopting him

things change
people change
life changes

its understandable
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OctoberBaby06 wrote:
Yes I do love animals but I would never compare my daughter to a dog. Sorry.

I'm sorry everyone! I'm a horrible mother! I'd rather spend more time with Kaylee than take care of a dog.


Jesus Mish, didnt u know the ANIMALS come first!??

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I am sorry but she doesn't look stupid to me. She in fact looks like a person that has respect for "life" not just human life but all walks of life. And there is nothing wrong with that.

You were quick to take her advice when it was benefiting you before about what you should do with the dog. But all of a sudden because it is something that you don't want to here you are getting nasty. I think that you need to check yourself hun.
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lonelyangel wrote:
guys please just stop all of this everyone has there own right for there own opinions that is why it is called a free country you wont be able to change anyones minds so there really is no need to keep argueing over it ok please just stop now im begging all of you


agreed

leaving the post now for good

thanks for everyone opinions and insight on the whole thing

michelle i hope it all goes well tomorrow with duke
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Shanyan wrote:
I am sorry but she doesn't look stupid to me. She in fact looks like a person that has respect for "life" not just human life but all walks of life. And there is nothing wrong with that.

You were quick to take her advice when it was benefiting you before about what you should do with the dog. But all of a sudden because it is something that you don't want to here you are getting nasty. I think that you need to check yourself hun.


Woah.

ENOUGH.

ENOUGH ENOUGH ENOUGH.

We wont go here, it will not happen.
NO one needs to *check themselves*

Watch how u speak to people in here, Shanyan.

we're allowed to have different opinions.

Lets just stop this.
Suzy, u be ignorant.
Michelle, u give DUke to whomever u see fit.

Everyone else..

Get a hobby.

JESUS.
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Shanyan wrote:
I am sorry but she doesn't look stupid to me. She in fact looks like a person that has respect for "life" not just human life but all walks of life. And there is nothing wrong with that.

You were quick to take her advice when it was benefiting you before about what you should do with the dog. But all of a sudden because it is something that you don't want to here you are getting nasty. I think that you need to check yourself hun.


I'll take peoples' advice but I'm not about to sit here & take someone comparing dogs to children & saying I wouldn't be able to handle another baby since I can't handle Duke & Kaylee. It might be a different story if she actually had her baby, lived on her own, was out in the REAL world. But she's over there in lala land & has everything spoon fed to her.
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Sandy_Pants wrote:
let me ask you this..

say a person gets a dog while they are young, say 16.

said person graduates high school.. goes onto college.

dog moves with them into a new home after they graduate.

said person wants to start a family.

now has a child, a full-time career, and a house and family to take care of.

No longer has time for above mentioned dog.

Would it be wrong for said person to give away the dog to a family with not so much on their plate or keep the dog and ignore it, because, after all, family priorities come before a dog.

atleast with normal people.


This is almost exactly what happened to me (Minus actual college)
This is why I chose to re-home my cat. I felt terrible he didn't get the attention he used to. So am I an awful person?
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Exactly!!!!!! We are allowed to have our own opinions!!!!!!

Why was it ok for her to say something rude to Suzy but I can't say something back to defend her.
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Sandy_Pants wrote:
let me ask you this..

say a person gets a dog while they are young, say 16.

said person graduates high school.. goes onto college.

dog moves with them into a new home after they graduate.

said person wants to start a family.

now has a child, a full-time career, and a house and family to take care of.

No longer has time for above mentioned dog.

Would it be wrong for said person to give away the dog to a family with not so much on their plate or keep the dog and ignore it, because, after all, family priorities come before a dog.
hopefulmjz wrote:

This is almost exactly what happened to me (Minus actual college)
This is why I chose to re-home my cat. I felt terrible he didn't get the attention he used to. So am I an awful person?
atleast with normal people.


Sad

no.. ur a responsible pet owner that felt the cat deserved better.
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