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son w/ADHD, impulsive, loner, mildly autistic or what?

Hi, I am a newbie here, googled a question and this website popped up, so here I am. Anyway, I have a 9 1/2 year old son, dx'd with ADHD at 5. He also as epilepsy which was dx'd at 3 yrs. Prior to his diagnosis he was completely out of control at school, he's always been impulsive, but he'd run away and just refuse to do what he was told. He was put on Ritalin and became a different child, although he can still be defiant. Every start of every new school year is a challenge although last year was not so bad once we settled. This year has been a nightmare. Luke is now on Ritalin and Concerta, and the Concerta has made a big difference to him. However, we are still having problems with defiance and periods where he is not willing to do what he is told, particularly at school. he is very impulsive, at almost 10, he is still not allowed to ride his bike down the footpath in case he shoots across the road. Anyway, the reason I am concerned as I have had a couple of comments passed lately, like "is he all there" which as a mother gutted me, but I just wonder when its like 3 different people. Luke is a very affectionate child, but is a loner and finds it difficult to socialise. When he wants to communicate and is with someone he trusts, he sounds like a kid well beyond his years, otherwise you're lucky if you can get boo out of him. Mornings in our household can be a nightmare, as some mornings, just getting dressed is out of the question for him. I just wonder if maybe he has a mild form of autism or something?? Can anyone allay my fears at all! Feel free to call me an overprotective mother!!
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replied November 13th, 2007
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I am in no way diagnosing your child and can't say much because you haven't posted a lot of his symptomology. I am curious if you have looked into Aspergers? I have found that some kids who are dx with ADHD actually could be on the spectrum. It's just a thought. He may have ODD as well. I hate to throw out labels like this but I understand what its like to really feel lost and want to know what is going on with your child. I would do it soon. If he "happens" to have Aspergers then you would want to know. I worked with a child who was finally dx with Aspergers in middle school. He went through his elementary years being labeled a "conduct problem." He was just extremely misunderstood.

What does the school say? I personally would try to find a good child clinical psychologist (Ph.D level outside of the school) to do an assessment. The school can only provide you with so much information but wouldn't be able to do a comprehensive assessment like an outside clinical psychologist could. Although I would get the school involved in the assessment. If you have insurance, they do sometimes cover assessments if you can get your doctor involved and write a referral.
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replied November 13th, 2007
to Mum of Four
please, you must see www.adhddrugatrocity.com
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replied January 9th, 2008
I am an inclusion teacher at my school and I deal with a lot of "spectrum kids". Aspergers usually is diagnosed inbetween 6-9 years old. Its hard to tell because at 5 kids are egocentric and not usually wanting to share. ITs all about me me me until right before their 6th birthday and then they start to make lasting friends. Aspergers is like ADD on crack. They have lots of different symtoms like ADD and it is usually misdiagnosed with ADD.
I recently read an article about ADD and ODD. (Oppositional defiant disorder) They apparently are interlocked. You might ask your doctor or behavioralist about ODD and see if they can observe him closer. You might have to wait another few years until they find any notion to diagnose him with Aspergers.
I also have a friend who's child has both ADD and ODD. He sounds JUST LIKE your child. At 4 he tore a hole into a door with a chair out of defiance. I dont know if its that bad for you, but I personally wouldnt have made it that far. My friend has a lot of patience for the kid.
Good luck.
Oh and usually the state in which you live can treat a child under the IDEA or 504 law (both federal laws) to test him for special education or behavior therapy. Just in case you dont have insurance. Each state is different in their ages.
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replied January 28th, 2008
hey about ADD and ODD
hey i no how u fell i have a brother whose 7 and hes crazy to. he makes holes and everything in the walls. if u have any questions feel free to ask.
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replied February 19th, 2009
Hey mum of 4..i am there now
I wanted to let you know when I read your input it was like reading aobut my son. he is 12 yrs old all the things you are experiencing and have been going through and learning how to deal with my 12 yrs old son. he was diagnosed with aspergers syndrome(mild form of autism) when he was 5. we have lots of challenges with school, especially at the beginning of the year. because of the autism, he can not handle any sudden changes in his schedule we have to set timers to remind him of what is fixing to happen, cause if we dont he will get extreme outbursts. I would love to talk to you some more about this if you would like to talk more, please write me.
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replied May 5th, 2009
yeah
I have aspergers snydrome and I am very impulsive. And I been a loner all my life never did had any good friends cause they are sucked. So I kinda get what you mean but check with his doctor if you have any doctors for him.
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replied February 25th, 2010
not overprotective at all
I don't think you are overprotective at all. My son was diagnosed with ADHD when he was 4 at that time he had already spent two years in extensive therapies due to problems during birth. However, it was the wrong diagnosis. A year later he was diagnosed with autism. At six he is now diagnosed with a total of five disorders including autism spectrum, ADHD, anxiety disorder, communication disorder, and sensory modulation disorder. His clinical psychologist thought it was important to give him both disorders even though everything he is diagnosed with is associated with autism. Many children with autism are hyperactive, have anxiety, have problems communicating and have sensory issues. However, all diagnosis' were essential because his school had a hard time accepting the autism diagnosis.
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replied August 30th, 2012
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This ADD runs in my family. My father had it, but he just died. My elder brother dropped out of high school in 9th grade because everyone thought he was the dumbest kid on the planet. My son has it too and has been on vyvanse and adderall. I was sick lately and needed some ginger which I learned to love as a child, but this is the crystalized ginger (like candy and awfully hot). I too stared out the window, could never pay attention or anything in school, but when my mother introduced me to crystalized ginger, I became an A+ student. I have one year of college and married in 1975 and had to give back 2 full-ride scholarships. I am an A+ student because I learned to love crystalized ginger. Give it a try. Better than caffeine anyday!
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replied January 23rd, 2019
Thank you for asking at Ehealth forum!

I read your question and I understand your concern.
These symptoms are consistent with mild autism. I would suggest you to consult psychologist for psychotherapy sessions like CBT to combat this problem.
I hope it helps. Stay in touch with your healthcare provider for further guidance as our answers are just for education and counselling purposes and cannot be an alternative to actual visit to a doctor.
Take care
Khan
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