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September 15th, 2007
Penguins. There are gay penguins, lol. It's actually very beneficial, since if an egg is abandoned a fertile couple doesn't have to waste their time raising an egg that's not theirs when they can just have their own. Gay penguins raise them!

Many many animals have gay and bisexual relations, so imo it's very obviously a natural behavior, and VERY helpful for the species.[/quote]

Penguins? Really???? Never heard that one. Learn something new everyday. I wonder what other kind of animals are homosexual.... Thanks for the info Eiri.
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lol u dont remember all that controversy over that book??
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rainfire1424 wrote:
lol u dont remember all that controversy over that book??

What book?
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replied September 15th, 2007
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Juan Toobie Healthy wrote:
Eiri wrote:
Penguins. There are gay penguins, lol. It's actually very beneficial, since if an egg is abandoned a fertile couple doesn't have to waste their time raising an egg that's not theirs when they can just have their own. Gay penguins raise them!

Many many animals have gay and bisexual relations, so imo it's very obviously a natural behavior, and VERY helpful for the species.


Penguins? Really???? Never heard that one. Learn something new everyday. I wonder what other kind of animals are homosexual.... Thanks for the info Eiri.


In a Zoo actually, it was first documented. I'm not sure, it would be a fun research project!
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replied September 15th, 2007
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Eiri wrote:
rainfire1424 wrote:
lol u dont remember all that controversy over that book??

What book?


"And Tango Makes Three"

You've never heard of it? It was a HUGE controversy for a while.
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replied September 15th, 2007
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Gu£st wrote:
"If it exsists in nature and is not artificial, than it's natural. It may not be common, but it's still natural. "

never seen a dog mating with its offspirng, never seen a dog trying to mount a pup?

Have you never heard of the "fall of nature"?

No, but if it happens, it's nature.
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replied September 16th, 2007
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Gu£st wrote:

You are right to say we believe we are not animals but you are wrong in saying that we believe we are not a real part of nature and that we are superior to it. We are a real part of nature, we are the crown of creation - that does not mean we are superior to creation but the best part of creation as a whole, we are uniquely joined together with nature, with the rest of creation.

No, humans are animals. Post any link proving that statement wrong. LOL, nice creation bit at the end.
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replied September 16th, 2007
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just my two cents...

Webster's New Universal Unabridged Dictionary:
animal:
1. any member of the kingdom Animalia, comprising multicellular organisms that have a well-defined shape and usually limited growth, can move voluntarily, actively acquire food and digest it internally, and have sensory and nervous systems that allow them to respond rapidly to stimuli: some classification schemes also include protozoa and certain other single-celled eukaryotes that have motility and animal like nutrition modes.
2. any such living thing other than a human being
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rainfire1424 wrote:
just my two cents...

Webster's New Universal Unabridged Dictionary:
animal:
1. any member of the kingdom Animalia, comprising multicellular organisms that have a well-defined shape and usually limited growth, can move voluntarily, actively acquire food and digest it internally, and have sensory and nervous systems that allow them to respond rapidly to stimuli: some classification schemes also include protozoa and certain other single-celled eukaryotes that have motility and animal like nutrition modes.
2. any such living thing other than a human being

Well that's weird. Humans are part of the Kingdom Animalia and therefore animals. The second definition is just plain wrong; plants, fungi, protists, bacteria anyone? But the first definition is probably saying the scientific discussion and the second definition is probably supposed to be a religious standpoint.
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i personally agree we are all animals. One would have to be blind to not agree with that assumption. Look at how savage we all are.. we kill each other over dominance, food, shelter.. etc.. we hunt for food.. we fight over anything and everything.. we all exhibit animalistic traits.
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Plus, our genetic make up shows us to be animals.
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seems to be alot of animal like people in these forums.. Wink
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meblonde01 wrote:
seems to be alot of animal like people in these forums.. Wink

Including you Wink

Animals have a lot to teach us. I don't see being called animalistic as an insult.
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replied September 19th, 2007
Whatever your "belief system" is, you wouldn't believe the number of people you know or are related to who are homosexual.
It's kind of odd,because the empahsis seems to be on the sex part.It is natural.Heterosexuals aren't just sex partners,well for the most part.Why is it that is all a conversation seems to be about when a person wants to judge or condem homosexuality.
I have friends,relatives who have relationships that are life long.They are more committed to each other than most married couples.Speaking of married.Why can't they?I have a friend who has had the same partner for almost 30yrs.I've known her since jr high school.I'm married for almost 30 yrs,my husband and I have 3 grown daughters,and 4 grandchildren.I think my friend should be able to get married.They own a home together.They love each other.
I have 5 cousins in one family,that were raised in a loving home.My uncle was in the air force,as a career.They travelled all over the world.One daughter and one son are gay.The other 3 in the family are not.My aunt and uncle love and accept all of their children.As they should.
There are so many real issues in life, why create one.To wonder,to ask questions is one thing.To condem is another.Like I said,you'd be surprised the people who are gay and you have no idea.
Gay people do not need "help". They just need to be able to live their lives.If you need a "cause",if you feel the need to help,there's plenty of real "causes" that you could put some positive effort into.
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The reason they can't marry is because of stupid, ignorant people. The same people who think humans aren't animals, the Earth is 6,000 years old, evolution and the big bang are lies, etc,., etc.
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The reason they can't marry is because of stupid, ignorant people. The same people who think humans aren't animals, the Earth is 6,000 years old, evolution and the big bang are lies, etc,., etc.


If the belief system is God then they believe God made no mistakes.They also believe only He can judge,we're not supposed to judge one another.We're suppose to love one another.
They need to put their beliefs in order and live and let live.There's so much crap going on in the world.We've got people dying over a senseless war that we were lied to get into.We've got a "leader" who is a dictator.We've got people that can't even go to the doctor because of this "fearless leader." I've got a sister who worked hard all her life and at the age of 56 has ms and parkinson's.She's going on her 3rd time for getting approved for disability.Her lawyer told her the gov't wants people like you to die,or give up and live with relatives.Whatever way,just go away.
People need to start waking up to what's important.Instead of creating problems that aren't there.
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audrey, tell your sister to be persistent and she will get disability. The denials are a nasty game that the government plays, to weed out the weaker people (the ones that give up). The persistent ones get disability, especially with all the documentation she must have, with not one but two major illnesses.
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audreyann wrote:
Whatever your "belief system" is, you wouldn't believe the number of people you know or are related to who are homosexual.
It's kind of odd,because the empahsis seems to be on the sex part.It is natural.Heterosexuals aren't just sex partners,well for the most part.Why is it that is all a conversation seems to be about when a person wants to judge or condem homosexuality.
I have friends,relatives who have relationships that are life long.They are more committed to each other than most married couples.Speaking of married.Why can't they?I have a friend who has had the same partner for almost 30yrs.I've known her since jr high school.I'm married for almost 30 yrs,my husband and I have 3 grown daughters,and 4 grandchildren.I think my friend should be able to get married.They own a home together.They love each other.
I have 5 cousins in one family,that were raised in a loving home.My uncle was in the air force,as a career.They travelled all over the world.One daughter and one son are gay.The other 3 in the family are not.My aunt and uncle love and accept all of their children.As they should.
There are so many real issues in life, why create one.To wonder,to ask questions is one thing.To condem is another.Like I said,you'd be surprised the people who are gay and you have no idea.
Gay people do not need "help". They just need to be able to live their lives.If you need a "cause",if you feel the need to help,there's plenty of real "causes" that you could put some positive effort into.


what is to funny is that while so many think oh poor gays how are they discriminated they don't see how discrimanotory people they are as well. My soon to be brother in law is gay and accepted by family as such but then he a fit he didn't want to accept me a hispanic as sister in law. Good think his grandma put him in his place. She said wait a minute, we all have accepted you gay and you dare to not accept her for hispanic? That's how it is..
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replied September 19th, 2007
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That's an unusual case. As far as I know, most homosexuals I've met were VERY accepting people.

Then again, think about it in the context of what someone else said. A gay guy is still just a guy, so he may indeed have all the prejudices that other men in his family have!! Why should being gay make him any less prejudiced? It is true however that often, people who are of minorities like homosexuality ARE in general more accepting of other discriminated groups and they want equality for everyone, and find discrimination of anyone based on gender, race, age, or sexual preference to be DESPICABLE.
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replied September 20th, 2007
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UCanQuit wrote:
Think about the bumper sticker. "What would Jesus do?" People don't really think to deeply about that.

If Jesus met a homosexual that was kind to his fellow man, caring to the people around him and alwaus willing to lend a hand to the less fortunate.

Do you think that Jesus would say to him " You're a very caring person. You love the people around you. You have goodness in your heart. Too bad you're going to hell."

I really don't think so. I believe that Jesus would love that person and accept them.

It is the content of the character that I'm most concerned about with people.

I don't understand homosexuality. I don't understand why a man would like a man or a woman would like a woman, but I really don't care either. If they are truly happy, good for them, because that's what we all really want. To be happy.

I think that people that worry and codemn other people are not really happy with themselves.

The problem with organized religion is the hypocricy of it. The bible was written by man. Hell was invented to scare people by man.

The Catholic religion condemns homosexuality, yet Catholic priests are synonymous with sexually abusing young boys and how do they deal with it? By moving priests to different churches and paying off the victims.

It's funny to see the these people in the religious right get caught for the very thing they are speaking out against. What hypocricy!

There is too much hate in this world in the name of God. There is too much death in this world in the name of God and it has always been that way.

I love Jesus, but I do not like his fan club.


As far as God nature and man. Yes man is part of nature, but man got too arrgogant and turned his back on nature and in turn is now destroying nature. Yet up until lately has strongly denied it.

Funny how the same leaders that denied what we are doing to this world are also the ones that are so self righteously judging others lifestyles.


Eric


You show me one place in the bible where Jesus EVER ACCEPTS sin.
Jesus was never tolerant. Loving yes, for he came for sinners.
He loves all sinners (all of us) but he hates sin and is clear what happens to us that dont repent and "turn from our evil ways".

Your bible must be different than mine.
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