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September 25th, 2007
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I'm doing it to gain Guest's trust. I figure honesty is the best policy. That way if they want to diss the professor, I can simply redirect the comments to his e-mail and see how he responds. *evil grin*
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replied September 25th, 2007
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Okay...but I bet I can find your personal info in about five seconds with all the info you've provided. Careful, Guest may start sending you "tracks" if he can, too.
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replied September 25th, 2007
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Tracks? Lol. The teacher used a bible to teach part of the class. We had to dissect and identify the two separate stories of Job based on prose vs poetry as one of our midterm questions.
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replied September 26th, 2007
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"A hilarious old man named Doctor Peterson"

Who was he working for, what was his background, who was funding the course, which organisation operated the course, what are all these peoples beliefs?
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replied September 26th, 2007
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what is with the third degree? Geez Rolling Eyes
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replied September 26th, 2007
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Gu£st wrote:
"A hilarious old man named Doctor Peterson"

Who was he working for, what was his background, who was funding the course, which organisation operated the course, what are all these peoples beliefs?


My God Guest, just shine a light in her face and get the thumbscrews out...

"Ve have vays of making you talk!"
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replied September 26th, 2007
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Gu£st wrote:
"A hilarious old man named Doctor Peterson"

Who was he working for, what was his background, who was funding the course, which organisation operated the course, what are all these peoples beliefs?

Why do you care, exactly? Why do all of these things make his words any more or less viable? Secondly, just in case you want to say "Oh he's not Christian so that's why he dares to say such horrid things!" one of the sources I used (in fact the first one I used) is written by a christian man!!! So even people on "your" side know these things to be true.

The COLLEGE operated the course. He works for the COLLEGE. That's what most college professors do you know, work for colleges. The COLLEGE funded the course. Duh.

As for the "people's" beliefs, for one, I don't know who you mean. Secondly, (going out on a limb here) the beliefs of the college's administration vary widely. Catholics, atheists, jewish, everything.
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replied September 26th, 2007
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UCanQuit wrote:
what is with the third degree? Geez Rolling Eyes

Guest is attempting to deface my professor and say that he is not qualified to say such things as he is not Catholic, so he can't possibly know anything "real" about American History. That because he is not Catholic, he will do all he can to "twist" history to make our nation not look like "a good christian nation" as most people are misled to believe we were founded as.
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replied September 26th, 2007
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Was there a God in the minds of the forefathers? Yes, if you actually read the sources you will realise that many of the forefathers were of mixed religions, combining deism, catholicism and other variants of christianity. Some were very spiritual, some were not. It is important to note that when they used God as a name, they were NOT referring to the christian god.

Secondly, deism is in no way incompatible with christianity. You'd know that... if you bothered to read the sources. I, like a college professor, provide you with surface information. For you to truly understand the day's discussion, I expect you to do your reading. Otherwise, you miss out. Deists do not deny the existence of Jesus, and call him a great man. They do however deny his divinity. His message still holds true, and as many christians tell me, it is the message that matters, not the debated aspects of his life and divinity.
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replied September 26th, 2007
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No Homosexuals In Iran
Guess what everybody??? If you want to live in a country free of homosexuals, you can just move to Iran!!! *snicker*
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replied September 26th, 2007
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Re: No Homosexuals In Iran
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Guess what everybody??? If you want to live in a country free of homosexuals, you can just move to Iran!!! *snicker*


Are you sure they don't have any hidding in the closets??
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replied September 26th, 2007
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Re: No Homosexuals In Iran
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sillyakchick wrote:
Guess what everybody??? If you want to live in a country free of homosexuals, you can just move to Iran!!! *snicker*


Are you sure they don't have any hidding in the closets??


That kind of talk will get you hanged meblonde Wink
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replied September 26th, 2007
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I am guessing that's the only thing in their closets. Did you see that man's suit??? a walking fashion tragedy, AND a fascist!
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replied September 26th, 2007
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Eiri wrote:
I like what someone else said, so I shall expand upon it!

1. Gluttony: Why aren't all christians who are anti-homosexuality and very vocal about it, why aren't they just as offended at fat, GLUTTONY people?
Example: "Oh Lord please help these obese people! They are such sinners!! How DARE they consume so much food? I cannot condone such a sickening lifestyle! They should really be put in jail for committing such a heinous sin!"

2. LUST: They're doing fine hating the LUSTful people (as the abortion debate reveals).
Example: "You like sex!? Sex is bad! Sex is for making babies, and ONLY to be done by married couples! All contraception is evil since it interferes with God's Will!!"

3. Greed: I don't see many christians protesting against rich CEOs being GREEDy and taking tons of money. Some people do, but I don't think they protest because it's a sin. They just know it's wrong.
Example: "Arrest the CEOs for being greedy! They're going to hell for being greedy! How can someone live like that!? They should be forced to have signs on their lawns saying "I am a greedy sinner!'"

4. Sloth: And you sure don't see christians parading around all offended about SOLTHful, lazy people.
Example: "How dare you sleep in to noon and not have a job!!! Oh, God! This person is SO horrid!! I cannot condone your lifestyle!"

5. Wrath: Not a whole lot of christians protesting people who are WRATHful, though it may happen... I've just never heard of it.
Example: "Your sins with doom you to hell!! How dare you get angry at other people! You are clearly mentally ill, that's not natural!"

6. Envy: ENVY, anyone? Nope. Don't see christians discriminating against people who want things they don't own.
Example: "You sick-minded person! You want the same TV as your neighbor? How sick can you get? That's disgusting, you sinner! Your children can't go to school with my children! I would never hire you for a job at my place because you're envious!"

7. Pride: And PRIDE... So many christians are ruled by this sin it makes me laugh. And National Pride, something many christians have, "GO USA!!" that's just as evil you know.
Example: "What!? You're proud to be an American? How dare you!!! That's shameful in the eyes of God!!! Don't listen to that sickening, sin-encouraging song: "And I'm proud to be an American, where at least I know I'm free" - That song is sung by devil worshipers and SINNERS!"

Nothing I have said is extreme really. The above examples are exactly how some christians react to homosexuality (which isn't even one of the main 7 deadly sins!!!!) yet they DON'T freak out about most of the main 7, except really for Lust.

If you think the above reactions are silly and you are one of those people who are against homosexuality, then maybe you need to do one of two things: Either put as much energy into protests against these sins as you do against homosexuality, OR, relax off of homosexuality!


The worst part of this is that everything on this list involves choices humans make. They either choose to do these things or not. Homosexuality is something people are BORN WITH. It's kind of insane to condemn people for what they didn't choose for themselves. GOD MADE THEM THAT WAY.

It's like hating someone with red hair.
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replied September 26th, 2007
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Oh, redheads Are awful! (ha ha tyna)
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replied September 26th, 2007
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nightangel73 wrote:

Have you seeing a marriage certificate? Do you see how it is written?

it says "in accordance to God.." and well you know God is not in accordance with man-man women-women for marriage.

I think in order for gay marriage to happen civily they should begin at least by taking out all the religious aspect of it if you can. When you see "in accordance to God" what does it tells you? That marriage is a religious institution.


That's like saying money is a religious institution.

I live in Massachusetts and our Constitution says marriage is between two consenting adults. That is why gay marriage is allowed, because it is described as between 2 people, it doesn't say which gender.

Gay marriage being legal has not affected one single person in this entire state negatively.
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replied September 26th, 2007
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people attracted to the same sex do have a choice. Perhaps not to which sex they are attracted to but the choice to have sex with the same sex or not, that is their choice.
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replied September 26th, 2007
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Eiri wrote:
Gu£st wrote:
"A hilarious old man named Doctor Peterson"

Who was he working for, what was his background, who was funding the course, which organisation operated the course, what are all these peoples beliefs?

Why do you care, exactly? Why do all of these things make his words any more or less viable? Secondly, just in case you want to say "Oh he's not Christian so that's why he dares to say such horrid things!" one of the sources I used (in fact the first one I used) is written by a christian man!!! So even people on "your" side know these things to be true.

The COLLEGE operated the course. He works for the COLLEGE. That's what most college professors do you know, work for colleges. The COLLEGE funded the course. Duh.

As for the "people's" beliefs, for one, I don't know who you mean. Secondly, (going out on a limb here) the beliefs of the college's administration vary widely. Catholics, atheists, jewish, everything.


Guest's questions are legit, Eiri - colleges and professors are not automatically free from bias.

Duh. Wink

Wait until he says something truly outlandish, like oh say right here:

Gu£st wrote:
people attracted to the same sex do have a choice. Perhaps not to which sex they are attracted to but the choice to have sex with the same sex or not, that is their choice.


Flame on.
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replied September 26th, 2007
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sillyakchick wrote:
Oh, redheads Are awful! (ha ha tyna)

Lol haha. We redheads have a lot of Wrath Wink
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replied September 26th, 2007
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Birch wrote:

Guest's questions are legit, Eiri - colleges and professors are not automatically free from bias.

Well that's why I answered them. Also, they weren't too personal so I felt safe answering.
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