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December 20th, 2009
Please, why did you address this to me? I am vegan 24 years and very healthy, energetic, look great, feel great, and prescription drug free (I don't take any kind of drugs, so don't even start). Yours is a known tactic used by those dependent upon the meat, dairy or egg industries, to make veganism seem like a health devastating mistake made by well-meaning idiots, saying you've been there, done that, urgently advising people to not end up like you, and all the rest. Address this to someone gullible without their own very positive experience with veganism. Oh, that's right, you did, by posting it here, but don't address this stuff to me again.
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replied December 20th, 2009
Extremely eHealthy
Lets adress this to you and start with drugs Vegan Louie. You're clearly paranoid, fearing "Big Meat" is out to get you and more than a little naracistic if you think posts are being adressed to you that encourage people not to engage in vegetarian diets because they are not for all people. Sicne you've decided to have your breakdown on a health forum, let me advise you once again in good conscience to seek professional help for the problems that are compelling you to attack people in this thread.
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replied December 21st, 2009
To Rooted (the post host, haha):

I was new to this forum and assumed if I got an email from here that it was in reply to my post, as is the case with the other forums I've been in. Certain people in here are ruining this forum for others with their weird, aggressive, dishonest, and "insulting" tactics...extremely hot-headed, unstable, and childish. I hope no one takes their words at face value. Lobby groups like the American Meat Institute and the Animal Agriculture Alliance are very active and very threatened by any vegetarian efforts, and can resort to very sleazy tactics. Please keep that in mind.
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replied December 21st, 2009
Extremely eHealthy
Vegan Louie do you have evidence that a member of an Agricultural Lobby or a Meat industry company is prowling a Health site, or when you referred to Weird Aggressive Dishonest and Insulting hot-headed, unstable childish people, were you referring to yourself?
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replied December 23rd, 2009
meat vs plants
I am also vegetarian happy and healthy full of boundless energy. In fact, recently when i did take sick i cut out milk products and found I felt instantly better. Now I am taking macrobiotic balanced vegan posturing on my diet and those around me and everyone who tries it is instantly feeling invigorated.
Some gene pools, as Wolf was pointing out, do indeed have different genetic requirements. For example, not many races can digest milk as well as northwestern europeans descendants, and most are actually lactose intolerant. This whole thing about malnutrition is a joke. Our digestive system is neither carnivorous nor omnivorous nor herbivorous, we are classified as fruitivorous. We get our best nutrition from eating plants firsthand and are designed to do so. Unlike most other carnivorous or even omnivorous species we do not have the teeth to attack nor the claws to tear. Besides which, meat has all sorts of other negative properties we can look at. How about the incidence of heart disease in vegetarians vs meateaters? Cancer? I encourage those truly interested in a healthy lifestyle to find out the answers to those questions.
thanks for your consideration
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replied December 23rd, 2009
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DJSpunset
Some great points but Biologically our species is defined as Omniverous. Our claws and fangs don't enter into that catagorization as we have higher brain functions and opposable thumbs. The -mean- of our digestive systems do process plant matter better than animal but our current biology requires concentrations of protien fatty acids and iron more easilly found in animals.
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replied January 28th, 2010
So meat is the answer to all of our problems right? DEAD wrong. How about all of the drugs and antibiotics that are pumped into animals everyday. You do not need meat to be healthy. You just need to be conscious of what you are putting into your body and what your body needs. You can take the necessary vitamins and supplements and you need and you DON'T NEED MEAT.
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replied February 23rd, 2010
I have been vegetarian for over 6 years and almost vegan except for some feta or cream cheese maybe a couple of times a week. No other milk products and no eggs. I had a very mild 2 day cold a couple of months ago and that is the only illness in at least 3 years or more. Before that maybe one cold a year but I take vitamin C and zinc when I feel just a little sniffle. Haven't had the seasonal flu ever and don't ever get the stomach fu. So those vegans that are so badly sick, it is something other than not eating meat! I will never ever eat another animal ever again!!
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replied September 26th, 2010
28 Year Old lifetime vegetarian
Hello all, I have been reading all the comments and posts on here and its quite easy to tell who knows what they are talking about and who thinks they do. I have been a vegetarian my entire life and have never tasted meat or fish/seafood at all. I have been absolutely perfect health my entire life. I get annual checkups at the doctor and they are always in awe at how healthy I am. I have always been athletic and played sports even in college. It can be done, but it has been more difficult than anyone can imagine at times; especially in college and high school with peer pressure. I have never met anyone that has been a lifetime vegetarian longer than me before and was hoping to hear of someone on the internet at least that is older than 28 and never had meat or fish/seafood. Any lifetime vegetarians out there I would love to hear from you. Haters, no thanks, been there, heard that. Im living proof that its possible and can be a healthy lifestyle.
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Users who thank kaddapple for this post: IanMWilliams 

replied October 7th, 2010
There are many many vegans and vegetarians who don't eat properly!!...That's why they are sick and falling apart...They should be eating a mostly raw diet...This is where all the live enzymes and nutrients live!...Study up on it!..Get a clue...When you cook everything (even meat), you kill it!
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replied March 6th, 2011
I can't believe some of the posts that I have read on this community. I married a vegetarian 25 years ago and have been one since. My two children aged 21 and 20 have never had any form of animal flesh and we are all as healthy as can be.
I was pregnant with one child while breast feeding another on a complete vegetarian diet. My obstetrician had no concerns about me being a vegetarian, my children's doctors were always very supportive of me bringing them up on a vegetarian diet.
I have never had anything but complete support from Doctors when it has come to my families vegetarian lifestyle.
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Users who thank catgirl55 for this post: IanMWilliams  megankh 

replied May 26th, 2011
A key for all of us (who wish to have good health), I think, should be "Eat to live, don't ever live to eat." I can understand how some people might have been vegetarian or even vegan, and had health problems. The definition of the word vegan when talking about the individual: A person who does not eat or use animal products. So, by definition I could do drugs, drink, bang my head against a tree, and wear a rubber suit; I would be a genuine vegan. Now of course, you probably would not be that much of an imbecile, so let me go a little deeper into the subject. Let's say you had some delicious "healthy" vegan granola in the morning with some soy milk for breakfast. Then for lunch you have 2 granola bars and maybe an energy drink, and for supper you have a nice big healthy vegan dinner--mashed potatoes, vegan burgers, and apple pie. What's wrong with this? Well 1st off how much sugar does that granola have... 20+ grams? If you didn't know they add sugar which is completely unnecessary, except for the sole purpose of taste. 2ndly was that soy milk Genetically-modified? ...look it up. 3rd once again how much sugar? Do they add it? Too much. #4 Dinner. why is it so big? Are you going for an evening jog at 7:30pm? 4.5 Do you really need all that sugar in that pie? Did you see how much sugar it had? Why is sugar so bad? Well, it causes many of the things that you mentioned, Marino, for example: weakened immune system, anxiety, and difficulty concentrating. Now I'm definitely not making this up out of 'thin-air.' There are several scientific/health articles (online and elsewheres), and a few books (The China Study) that talk about how bad sugar is and its effects, and also the detrimental effects of meat on the human body. A quick website you can look up has an article by the American Heart Association about the effects of sugar. Here's the URL or web address (just copy then paste into your web address bar at the top of your browser): http://www.mesapersonaltraining.com/new-su gar-guidelines-and-40-negative-effects-of- sugar/

And by the way, in my personal opinion Lacto-ovo vegetarianism is not the best idea..
Eggs: not incredibly great for you health.
Cow's milk: not that great either--it gives you calcium but it also leeches (takes it out) of your bones, and then it leaves your body by way of the urinary tract.
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replied July 25th, 2011
So I couldn't help but read every word written on this forum. And now I must say I can't leave without telling my story. I've been a vegetarian for 15 years. I was 11 and my entire family basically thought I was going to die within a year...haha my reason if you're wondering is...a cousin of mine dared me and it just so happened that it worked to get my dad's attention (we were in bad terms then and I used it to rebel). Eventually he grew to respect and accept it. That whole time I thought I was healthy just because I was a vegetarian and I exercised regularly. Turned out I just made myself believe I was healthy. I denied that I was unhealthy when people told me I was, and the more I received negative feedback, the more I committed. Looking back, I thought I had ADD, and I think I had OCD too, I knew something was not right in my brain, I kept losing things left and right, I had delayed reaction, I just felt like I wasn't part of this world. Basically, depression crept up on me along with dementia. Early this year I couldn't take it anymore, I did a lot of research despite the fact that I had poor concentration. I was really desperate! But I had faith that I'd fix this problem somehow without going back to eating meat...because that's how stubborn I was and still am. Haha. Anyway, I've overcome all that and this is how I did it................

I realized I was a junk food vegetarian. I looked healthy on the outside but boy was I suffering on the inside. For the most part, fish oil was the answer. I let down my pride a bit and forced myself to take fish oils. So I'm guessing that makes me a pescetarian now?? I gradually worked my way up to 10 gelcaps a day and in a month my brain felt like it was born again like it finally saw the light. It has never craved this much knowledge before...I can't exaggerate enough how much it has benefitted me. I feel like I'm going to be a genius by the end of this year...LOL and it has only just begun. Smile My skin looks great, I am anxiety free, I can go back and name each person in a line when introduced to them just once, more often than not, I can give an explanation and not get off topic, I can actually finish a whole book in a day!! Besides eating fruits and veggies, I take a ton of vitamins and supplements each day, (they don't replace my meals) keep up with my exercises, drink 7-8 teas a day (it's how I down my water as well and only 1 is caffeinated), I take trace mineral drops, and as much as possible I stay away from MSG and gluten (even fake meats have them!), sodas, antibiotics, highly processed foods, smoking, alcohol, refined carbs, all sugars esp. high fructose corn syrup, (I substitute with stevia). I make sure what I eat has a lot of nutritional value and treat food as medicine. Consistency is the key. Being a non-meat eater seems like a lot of responsibility but I don't complain because the commitment puts me in a position to be smart and I know that I won't be paying expensive medical bills because of any concerns due to inflammation caused by the typical western diet. Overall it's worth it because I only gain a clear mind and confidence. Over the years I have refined my diet....a hybrid of a diabetic-friendly, Belly Fat Cure, raw food diet without the meat is I think the best direction to go. I am the only non-meat eating member in my immediate family and each one of them except for the youngest (8 yrs. old) has weight problems and heart related problems. Most my aunts and uncles also face these kinds of health concerns. I don't necessarily want to live a very long life but for me this is the way to live it to the fullest.

I believe anyone can tolerate a vegetarian diet if you know what you are doing. For instance, some people go vegetarian because they think it will help them lose weight....sure it might help lose some pounds but it'll also help you lose some nutrients if you're type of discipline is not balanced between the many aspects of a complete and optimum well being. What you put into your body affects your brain. SO basically I've become a responsible vegetarian with the exception that I take fish oils, and now krill oil. I still somewhat consider myself vegetarian because I don't eat fish. This could possibly start a whole new argument but whatever you want to call it, I don't mind. All I know is whatever I am doing now, my mind and body responds with glee. I've seen an extreme change in my outlook on life....for the first time, I feel like I'm living it the way I was meant to. It's corny, I feel every bit of my mind, soul, and body is present in this world whereas before I felt lost in space. I have to say that I don't regret becoming vegetarian because each year since then, I've grown a bit more health conscious....it just took me this long to realize I had been missing out on the good stuff in essential fatty acids! I believe that vegetarianism and/or pesce/pescatarianism is a much healthier take on diet. If you used to be vegetarian or vegan (fruitarian on the other hand is just plain suicide) and regret ever becoming one, I think you just lacked research. If I tell you why and you want details medically speaking, I think I might as well email you an essay. Thanks for reading. Cheers to health! GOD bless you! Wink
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replied July 26th, 2011
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hi all
vegatiranisam if done properly is a very heaty, if done badly is a bad as any other unbalanced diet. i am a fourth generation life vegy, my grate granfather lived into his 90's (long for our family) and all three decending gertation are still alve(this is the meternal line so we have been vegy for arguments sake since conseption)

the princible thing about any diet is to eat the corect preportions of foods from each food group and a wide range of local (preferably home grown is posible) preferaly orgainic products which are in season, herbs and spices also make good nutritonal addatives inhancing the flavour without salt. a vegy diet relint on cooking from constiuent ingredets is hether and cheeper than most other diets it also has the benifit of alowing for adaptions to recipes for varing tastes.

to those consernd about iron, all leafy greens contain iron (along with vit C and folic asid which are vital for the absorbtion of it) if you are realy consernd the herb tyme contains the highst know conenteration of iron in vegtible or anamal food stufs.

as for faty asids, all plants contain a small amount, seweeds and watercress are some of the better sorces along with any peppry green. hemp oil is also high in these and can be used as a food suplimet which is vegen. the componds originate in plants and this is where fish get it from, the fallicy about easyer absorbality is just that over time the body adapts to what it is given and can prosses plants as easerly as animals if given the right balnce of nutrints.

it is medicly psoible to be obece yet malnurushed, nurishmet is not about the grose number of callorys rahter it is about the balance of food, vitimins and micronutrients we intake. over 50% of the developed worlds population is classed as malnurished due to this lack of a proper diet.

we evoled to eat sesonly and localy, this is what our bodys respond to best, throgh evelution meat has always been a small part of the diet but not neccery. the earlist recorded vegitarian was pithagoros the greek philiosiper and mathmition, amy notible figres were in history were also vegitarian and untill the early 1800 most people in erope eat a basicly vegitarian diet due to the price of meat and were better nurished than those who eat meat.

it is aboult knowing your food groups and how to manage a balanced diet more than the content of the diet, althogh meats tend to contain more saturated fats and transfats which are linked to corany probles, the vegitarian diet avoids this so tends to avoid heart realaed heath problems and some cancers.

feel free to pm me if you have a specifiv question about a vegitarian deit.
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replied July 26th, 2011
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hi all
vegatiranisam if done properly is a very heaty, if done badly is a bad as any other unbalanced diet. i am a fourth generation life vegy, my grate granfather lived into his 90's (long for our family) and all three decending gertation are still alve(this is the meternal line so we have been vegy for arguments sake since conseption)

the princible thing about any diet is to eat the corect preportions of foods from each food group and a wide range of local (preferably home grown is posible) preferaly orgainic products which are in season, herbs and spices also make good nutritonal addatives inhancing the flavour without salt. a vegy diet relint on cooking from constiuent ingredets is hether and cheeper than most other diets it also has the benifit of alowing for adaptions to recipes for varing tastes.

to those consernd about iron, all leafy greens contain iron (along with vit C and folic asid which are vital for the absorbtion of it) if you are realy consernd the herb tyme contains the highst know conenteration of iron in vegtible or anamal food stufs.

as for faty asids, all plants contain a small amount, seweeds and watercress are some of the better sorces along with any peppry green. hemp oil is also high in these and can be used as a food suplimet which is vegen. the componds originate in plants and this is where fish get it from, the fallicy about easyer absorbality is just that over time the body adapts to what it is given and can prosses plants as easerly as animals if given the right balnce of nutrints.

it is medicly psoible to be obece yet malnurushed, nurishmet is not about the grose number of callorys rahter it is about the balance of food, vitimins and micronutrients we intake. over 50% of the developed worlds population is classed as malnurished due to this lack of a proper diet.

we evoled to eat sesonly and localy, this is what our bodys respond to best, throgh evelution meat has always been a small part of the diet but not neccery. the earlist recorded vegitarian was pithagoros the greek philiosiper and mathmition, amy notible figres were in history were also vegitarian and untill the early 1800 most people in erope eat a basicly vegitarian diet due to the price of meat and were better nurished than those who eat meat.

it is aboult knowing your food groups and how to manage a balanced diet more than the content of the diet, althogh meats tend to contain more saturated fats and transfats which are linked to corany probles, the vegitarian diet avoids this so tends to avoid heart realaed heath problems and some cancers.

feel free to pm me if you have a specifiv question about a vegitarian deit.
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replied October 13th, 2011
I eat meat every day of my life. I also eat vegetables and fruit every single day. I tried cutting back on the meat. I began to have some health problems from it. Not so much as anything serious but I was getting home from work just sore. I could never feel 100%. I have a very physical job. Once I ate the same ammount of meat again I was fine.
I don't believe that being a vegan or vegetarian is unhealthy like others have claimed. I is just not for me.
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replied October 9th, 2012
I have been a strict vegan for over 25 years, I am now 55. I had the horror stories told me by my doctor - that I would be dead in several months, and that the only way he could keep me alive was pumping me with painful vitamin B12 injections each week. I am unusual in that I hate nuts, and don't eat potatoes or tomatoes, bananas and most fruit.
The upstart of this is that just a few months ago my hospital doctor said to me after blood tests that they had rarely seem any results like mine. Of course I was concerned, but then they said it was because my results were very healthy and to carry on doing what I was. So my original doctor was a bit wrong. In the UK we are encouraged to eat five a day of fruit and vegetables. So that is a step in the right direction.
Maybe I an just that lucky one in a million guy who can thrive on this diet, but I believe others can too.
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replied June 24th, 2013
Vegans and B12
Vegan life is healthy if you eat correctly with nutritious food. It's true that not all vegans are healthy but in general, vegans are a lot healthier and meat eater. I am a vegan for 22 years now, my husband is about 35 years vegan and my two kids are vegan from birth. My kids are very healthy and they are in the 90 percentile tall without cow milk. They hardly get sick, maybe once a year with a cold if they don't sleep enough during the flu season but many years through out flu season, they don't get sick. And both of my husband and I don't believe in vaccine, especially flu vaccine.

To be healthy and strong, eating raw, live food is the best such as raw vegetables and fruits. The best raw food is sprouts (lentil sprouts, mung bean sprouts, alfafa sprouts, buckwheat sprouts, wheat sprouts, wheat grass, wheat grass juice, flax seed sprouts, sesame sprouts, etc.) Sprouts are loaded with nutrients, easy to digest and very easy to make at home.

Regarding B12 deficiency, very rare that I know any vegan who is B12 deficient. To be rich in B12, it's best the drink REJUVELAC. Rejuvelac is very easy to make at home. Rejuvelac has all B-complex, not just B12, loaded with protein and enzymes and much much more. You can Google Rejuvelac and learn about it. Most of natural picked vegetables are also high in B12. Asian eats a lot of natural picked vegetables.

Vegans you were/are sick in this forum is because you don't eat correctly. Cooked food is addictive and lack of nutrition. Try to raw, live food. You will see the bid difference in energy, health, and almost disease FREE. Most of raw food eaters with sprouts that I know don't even use any medicine ever.

Regardless of you are vegan or not, STRESS can kill you and cause many sickness and diseases so try to have some healthy STRESS release or management techniques such as daily or regular exercise, play classical guitar, piano or any musical instrument, yoga, meditation, singing in a chorus, etc. Alcohol is NOT a good stress release or management technique. Drugs and smoking are big NO NO.

For vegans are dropped out of vegetarian life style in this forum, I am truly sorry that you are ill. Please try to change your diet back to raw and live food diet. You will see all your pain and sickness will be diminished drastically or even vanished.

Good luck and Have a wonderful, healthy life.
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replied April 4th, 2016
Vegan Diet
Some vegans eat a more frutarian diet and that seems to create problems. Vegans also tend to attract radical types which is also a potential health problem. A down to earth smart vegan who eats whole grains, beans, fruits and veggies will be in general better off than most meat eaters. Stick to science folks.
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