Just want to throw my 2 cents.
I've had an opiate problem for about 6 years now. I've been an addict ever since the 2nd time I experienced them.
I had a habit of about 300mg Morphine about 1.5 times a day. I also regularly spiked my high with smoking Fentanyl, or supplementing with Dilaudid, and when I could find them, oxy.
I managed to spend 2 days in full-blown opiate withdrawals before I started at a Methadone clinic.
Now that is a pretty debatable course to take, as many will say you will be on Methadone the rest of your life. I just want to say that it SAVED my LIFE. I had already overdosed and clinically died once, so I needed to give up the lifestyle of it all. As most of you know that have had addictions, they come with MUCH baggage.
You gotta visit sources, you gotta make friends with a bunch of boring ass old people and stay and listen to their stories just to get a supply. You're paranoid all the time, especially when you're dealing. It's just too stressful of a lifestyle for ANYONE that doesn't have a legitimate physical condition.
Sorry to go astray, but I just feel this info was important in order to relay my info more reliably.
Methadone DID save my life. For the first time in years, I gained weight (almost like I was at a healthy weight), I looked so much better, and had a much more enthusiastic, optimistic look on life. But after 2 years, decided to detox. I weaned my dosage from 120mg down do 15mg (a day), then went cold turkey.
Worst mistake I ever made. This was definitely setting me up for failure. BUT, I made it through and spent a good month or so clean as a whistle....but then I started up on the Poppy Pod Tea.
I was no stranger to this, but had forgotten the absolute strength these arrangements hold. It's a great feeling, lasts FOREVER, and is cheap. The perfect opiate for an opiate lover. The problem with this is that I managed to turn a recreational start into a habit that has been going on for about...3 months now.
I'm on hour ~48 of Poppy Tea (about 10 jumbos a day) detox and had forgotten the extreme hell I went through on the methadone detox. I do NOT wish methadone detox on my worst enemy. It is seriously that bad. Due to the extremely long half-life of methadone (~12hrs) it tends to linger in your system that much long, although initial symptoms are not *quite* as bad as a shorter-acting opioids, but lasts MUCH MUCH longer. I felt like PURE ABSOLUTE DOODOO for about 2 weeks.
You may be wondering where I'm going with all of this, which leads me to the topic, KRATOM.
I read up on this wonderleaf last week. Found a vender and got my 110g of Maeng Da Monday. I had about ~200mg opium Monday night (I usually dose in the morn) after holding myself that day with Kratom. I used about 20g total to feel better, but it was much better than full blown withdrawal symptoms.
Since then, (today is Wednesday) I've had no opiates(not counting Kratom), no benzos (which were vital with methadone detox), and have only experience the "electricity" and "uncontrollable limbs" type feelings where I want to throw my limbs everywhich way, just to get the energetic and intense anxiety out of my body.
I've been able to get to sleep the past 2 nights, but I wake up after a few hours and can't go back to sleep. But if I didn't have Kratom, I probably wouldn't sleep at all.
The reason I decided to try Kratom to detox was kind of a self-induced drug trial type thing for myself. I am ready to quit opiates, which mindset is a HUGE thing when it comes to addiction. It's more mind over matter than anything. And I keep looking at it like a week of HELL for a lifetime of NORMALCY. Which sounds like a good tradeoff.
Kratom has allowed me to detox from a medium sized (this time around...) opiate addiction basically cold turkey.
I have NO desire to use Kratom recreationally and really don't notice any effect from it except for NOT noticing severe opiate withdrawal symptoms.
I don't see Kratom as something someone could abuse to the point of addiction, but as a previous poster said, it is completely possible...but I just don't see it happening as if you can get Kratom, you can get better stuff. It's really not worth the money, unless you're in opiate withdrawal, when it then becomes a basic detox substance that allows you to go to work. And it's not like the Kratom is "covering up" my feelings, it feels like my symptoms are legitimately being controlled to the point of an easier withdrawal.
I'm going to whittle down my Kratom and stop using it next week, as I believe by this weekend, the worst symptoms will hopefully have resided.
If anyone has been putting off detoxing from opiates because of fear of withdrawals, you can take my story SERIOUSLY as one with credibility, as I am currently experiencing the benefits. And it's been 2 days, so I KNOW this stuff is working.
I had problems finding someone that had a decent sized opiate habit praise Kratom with helping with withdrawals, so was skeptical of whether it would help me or just not be enough. But it IS!
Don't put it off anymore, and DO IT! You can start on Friday after work. Don't dose on Friday. That day start on Kratom. By the time Monday comes around, hopefully, the worst of your symptoms will be GONE! Of course, everyone's body is different, but I think this probably applies to most people withdrawing from short-acting opioids.
Peace Out.