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Internal anal warts - thinking about not getting surgery

Hi everyone,

I'm a gay male who recently found out I have anal warts. I had two near the outside of my rectum removed by a dermatologist (froze them off), but he recommended I go to a rectal surgeon to look inside. I did that today and she found three or four small ones internally and has suggested that I get surgery to remove them in a couple of weeks. I'm planning on going to Planned Parenthood ASAP to get vaccinated as well.

Reading some stuff online has freaked me out and I don't know if I want the surgery anymore. Some people have said that anal sex is unbearable for them after getting surgery - even months and months later (some people even years), especially due to tender scar tissue. Some people have gotten fissures as a result. The warts I have are small thankfully so maybe surgery wouldn't be so intense for me, but I'm mortified about potential longterm consequences - it sounds like anal sex is a no-go for these people and a lot of them wished they would have just let their bodies take care of the virus on its own and not gotten surgery. I don't want to never be able to have sex again! Is not getting surgery a really dumb idea or is the surgery an overrated or unnecessary step to remove them?
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replied June 19th, 2017
Hello.
Anal warts are caused by HPV which is precancerous.Means very rarely anal.warts might cause cancer.
But does this mean all anal warts need to be removed? Not truly. If untreated, it may regress, may remain same or may increase in size.
But if you remove them, the chance of transmission to your partner is less.
Now it's upto you whether you will opt for surgery or not. But this is sure that you might face future difficulty in performing anal sex if there is a surgery.
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replied February 1st, 2018
My partner had been diagnosed with internal anal warts recently and we tried everything we could, but like you mentioned it is hard when they are internal. So let me give you a timeline so you can know what to expect, I will be as open and honest as possible:



July 2017 he had rectal bleeding so had a colonoscopy and they didn't find anything, but said they saw some hemorrhoids (which now I am assuming were actually warts). I discovered some warts around his anus when about to have sex in October 2017. Got diagnosed the same week at which time the ones we could see were rather small. Got checked the week after and they said he had several internally.

I was very cautious about any remedy unfortunately and he didn't want to do surgery so we opted to wait it out. We started boosting our bodies with vitamins and supplements including multivitamins and garlic: here is the one we used from whole foods

https://www.iherb.com/pr/Wakunaga-Kyolic-I mmune-Formula-103-100-Capsules/56184?ccode =us&currcode=USD&langcode=en-US&am p;gclid=EAIaIQobChMIhfiMx-qF2QIVlGV-Ch1MPA ClEAQYAyABEgJtrfD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds



and finally I too read about AHCC. It was expensive but I thought it would be worth it. So i bought a months worth on Amazon and after a month didn't notice much and things actually seemed to look worse by this time with the warts seeming to be growing. We decided to continue the supplements given the minimum time frame the study suggested was 3 months. In this time, we also opted to get the HPV vaccine as recommended by the doctor even though they said it probably wouldn't do much. We initially hesitated, but finally decided to give it a shot (literally). He stopped most of the multivitamins except the AHCC and got his second booster shot in the HPV vaccine series.



Honestly I have been hesitant to check to see how things have been going down there until recently he said he felt a difference and wanted me to check even though I felt kind of hesitant because I didn't want to see it getting any worse. This was literally last week. To my surprise, nearly all of the warts that were once present were GONE! There were only two visible that I could see remaining (which were the bigger ones intially) but they two had shrunk in size and I noticed there were red what looked like bright veins going through them and I though this must be his body attacking the virus (this is done through the blood usually). I will keep updated but I am sure those will be gone soon given they have already drastically shrunk in size. We haven't had the opportunity to check the internal ones, but I'm sure if the ones closer to the outside are disappearing then so must the more internal ones.



I can't necessarily speak to which part of our routine helped but it wouldn't hurt to try all of the above. I would start with taking the AHCC - the dose recommended by the study was 3 g in the morning on an empty stomach (no food 1 hour before or after taking them) for at least 3 months and up to 6 months. We bought the capsules on Amazon - here are the ones I got:



https://www.amazon.com/Premium-Kinoko-Plat inum-AHCC-Supplement/dp/B00HG0YZMG/ref=pd_ lpo_vtph_121_bs_t_1/133-8920861-4924348?_e ncoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=3SX50848 G0FBYQXWAX38



Notice the dose would be 4 capsules a day so this bottle only last 15 days so it can get costly.. like $120/month since they're on sale right now.



And also get the HPV vaccine! Find a good doctor, hopefully you're in the bay area and they have good LGBTQ doctors that can help you.. if you are in the area, check out Oakland Kaiser or some of the clinics in SF. If you're not in the area, insist on getting the vaccine even if your doctor says it will do nothing. This is my theory, and I am by no means a doctor but do have some background in the sciences. I read how the AHCC is supposed to work..it inhibits a certain type of antibody (to be general) in your body from being synthesized and in turn this causes an upregulation of the type of antibody that would attack the HPV virus. This will take time. The HPV vaccine introduces dead HPV virus into your blood so your body can make antibodies against it (this is an advantage because normally the virus evades your immune system so your body won't build any antibodies for it). Since there are now antibodies, your body will have an easier time finding the virus and being able to attack it.



This is just my theory based on what my partner and I have done and have seen results. I wish I had found something like what I just posted to give me hope. Do keep in mind though, not all HPV viruses are covered by the vaccine so its not a guarantee, but be hopeful that about 90% (according to Google) of HPV warts are from two subtypes which are covered by the vaccine. Also keep in mind if you may have a co-infection with one of the cancer causing types to be aware of any changes down there even after the warts go away. Not likely but good to be safe and aware of your body. I hope this reaches as many people as possible. Please share.
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