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May 13th, 2018
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I'm again having swollen lymph nodes. There is some systematic infection that my body is fighting. I just hope it isn't Hiv-2.
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replied May 16th, 2018
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It's HTLV, take Truvada.
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replied May 13th, 2018
Which kind of tests? Pcr? Rapid test?
We have done a lot of tests, too much, even cd4 .
No others tests so i can immagine no symptoms, so no reasons to test.

No tests for over a year so he could be positive in january 2016.
And he doesn't think no more to hiv, maybe beacause he is in quite good shape, but we are not.

After 3 years 188 cd4 so guys this could happen but cd4 doesn'lie.
How many cd4 he had in 2016, after 2 years, 1000? I don'think so.

This is another thing, no one of us could spent one year without test, right?
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replied May 15th, 2018
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What JustArrived55 points out is true, that person stopped testing for quite a while, however, considering his story is true (which I tend to do because I see no point of a person lying with regards to this topic to strangers online), is that this person tested negative 20 months after its exposure and positive at a moment between 20 months and 35 months.

I think that the only way we are going to be able to get rid of this burden is if doctors find what is making us ill and it is not related to HIV. Otherwise, at least myself, I am going to continue to be sure that HIV is my issue.

I just hope I can get my diagnosis before I lose something I can not recover (sight, hearing, etc.) making me a handicapped and therefore unable to provide for mysel, thus becoming a burden for my parents.
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replied May 16th, 2018
Are you guys still debating the post on the other forum (the one the girl posts about the 14 months)? It’s BS, just check the comment from the moderator.
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replied May 16th, 2018
Also take notice: this forum is active for 8 years with 5770 posts and nobody here ever returned with being positive... and when you read the other forums where people have strange systems after an encounter (and tested negative at 6 months) there is also none of them who returned saying he/she went positive. So keep up the spirit.
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replied May 16th, 2018
I did another 4th generation combo test, 8 months after exposure - Negative.
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replied May 16th, 2018
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Keeponrolling,

Thank you for sharing your logical and practical observations! YES, no one here has tested positive for HIV, and never will !!! These people are testing like maniacs for something that you do not have!

My point is why can't people wrap their head around the possibility of other viruses? HIV is NOT the only virus in the universe! And there's perfectly viable virus called HTLV that is causing everyone's suffering. Wake up and smell the coffee, and start taking Truvada.

Best wishes.
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replied May 17th, 2018
Guys, can someone negative past 4 months turn positive later? Yes.

For proof check this video:"FACES of HIV:Donald’s Story”

Apparently it wasn't even a case of coinfection e.g. HIV+HPC.
It happened at a time when 3rd gen. ELISA were still in use, but still, do 4th and 3rd gens. change much something during latent stage as antibodies are so low at this point.
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replied May 18th, 2018
Gallex,
Please keep calm.. the guy in the video is completely different than any of the posters here. Will explain.

1) he had a needle stick exposure (which needed te be tested until 6 months (even Wikipedia says needle stick exposures can take 6 months to show up because of the route of infection.
2) because the type of exposure the would have test the source ( and you can bet your money on it that they knew within 72hours the source was positive) so Donald would have been taking Prep for a month. Something that the quite handy forget to mention in the video. Prep can delay antibody for a month and you need to test 3 months after finishing prep. So again at least 4 months (you see the connection with 6 months Wink).
3.) Donald test was indeterminate at 4 months and with such an exposure every doctor would keep testing (that’s why it in the guidelines of every hospital to keep testing to 6 months after a needle stick).
4) they actually found out what was wrong with him. How did they found out (rna most probably?) Also something the video didn’t mention.

So could name some other facts where the video comes in short but above are the most important ones. Best thing to remember he tested positive in the window period which stands for a needle stick injury (and even within the normal window period of 3 months when you take the month prep in account).

In retrospect:
1) none of the members on this board had a needle stick.
2) Most of them didn’t take prep within 72 hours of the incident.
3) And most of them also tested negative far beyond the 6 month window with antibody and rna test...

So please stay rational.
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replied May 18th, 2018
The latest post on the other site by one person who's claiming that he was exposed 5-6 years ago scares me.
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replied May 18th, 2018
You will always find what you look for..

And people make a lot of claims... it is scientific proof that counts...
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replied May 19th, 2018
Which post into68?
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replied May 21st, 2018
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Sometimes you guys make me think this virus is making people dumber.


@into68week, no offense, but you don't seem to have basic reading skills. I know what post you are talking about, so I will just copy and paste here, so the other people don't freak out.

"I got a diagnosis earlier this week, although I was infected at least 5 years ago if not more.

I am dealing fine with the psychological side of this illness. The doctor told me that I can live a normal life span, and that the modern medications will work well. I am very blessed to have a very supportive husband (we have been together 5 years, and married for 1 year) who thankfully is negative. I am also blessed to have a wonderful job and a very supportive boss (in fact it was he and his wife that urged me to get diagnosed and on treatment). In general I'm a very positive and happy person, and not prone to depression. In fact, having this condition just makes me want to do so much more in life, and try even harder, to show to others that I can achieve everything I want despite having this condition. "

The guy says he's been infected at least 5 years ago because he is in a monogamous relationship since then. In fact, he also says this:

"My doctor said that I got diagnosed in time, and it is definitely not AIDS. I haven't had any opportunistic infections. In fact I've never been seriously ill."

He probably didn't even test for hiv during the last 5 years. Since his partner is negative, he concluded the infection happened before he started the relationship.
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replied May 21st, 2018
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By the way, I received my last lab results. Hepatitis B and C, HIV (4th gen) everything negative. PCR was also undetectable (below 20 copies/ml). My CD4 is around 1100 and CD4/CD8 ratio 1,57. This result is almost identical to the tests I had 1 year ago, so I'm a little less worried. CBC is normal also.

All those tests were made 14 months after exposure.
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replied May 21st, 2018
Congratulation ! Enjoy your life moving forward...
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replied May 21st, 2018
Congratulations ! Enjoy your life moving forward... You don't have anything to worry about.
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replied May 21st, 2018
Congratulations ! Enjoy your life moving forward... You don't have anything to worry about.
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replied May 21st, 2018
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Congratulations on your results @Matt;

I am very curious, how do you get all those tests done? I mean, I mentioned to my doctor one about PCR and she almost kills me. Do you pay them out of your pocket? Or do people in your country have access to a high quality health system where they don't skimp on expenses?

More importantl, what is your position now concerning your HIV status? Are you already sure that you are HIV negative or do you still have some incertitude? In case you still feel concerned about HIV, what would take you to forget about that idea?

I always enjoy and appreciate reading you, because I think you are the most rational membber in this forum, not as pessimistic as me, but not naive as others.
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replied May 21st, 2018
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@WorstOfLucks

I have to confess, to make this last pcr test I did something not very honest. I went to the doctor, he prescribed me some blood exams (CBC and other stuff). The prescription was in a paper signed by the doctor. Since the tests he ordered were in handwriting, I added the PCR on my own. I know this isn't right, but I don't have spare money to pay for another PCR (I have paid for it before). Then, I went to a lab and gave this paper. My health insurance will pay for the exam because I will look like the doctor asked for it.

Anyways, I'm not fully convinced about being negative, because of all these stories of people testing negative for several months (even pcr are undetectable!) and test positive later. I agree with you, those people have no reason to lie in a forum, it's pointless.

As for my symptoms, they are improving little by little, but some of them still bothers me:

- Eye floaters. I've been having them since my acute phase. They seem to be getting worse. I'm going to an eye doctor next week.
- Painful lymph nodes. At this rate I can't tell for sure if they swell, but I feel them hurting every now and then. Sometimes it takes a week, sometimes less. I feel it mostly under my jaw and behind my earlobes.
- A rash in my chest that won't go away since the acute phase.
- Some minor skin issues.
- Annoying cough every now and then.

My wife also is having some deformities in her fingernails. It looks a lot like those fungal infections pictures associated with AIDS (as we see on Google).

Well, that's the wrap up for now. I hope everyone gets better soon.
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replied May 30th, 2018
the other forum posted a chinese report, saying there might be hiv cells. I don't know what to think, how to feel, what to do.
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replied May 31st, 2018
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@marana

Which forum are you talking about?
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replied May 31st, 2018
just google unknown std. free forums
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replied May 31st, 2018
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