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September 27th, 2008
A typing machine no,a man who feel's there is a reason and a need to intervene into the mindset of American women YES!!
The Foreskin is there for a reason!
So many women complain that intercourse is painful,they don't enjoy sex ect..
The Foreskin glides inside itself,there's no friction there for there is no problem with lubrication during sex!
The sex act is a smooth and natural flow rather than a rapid pounding because the male has reduced sensation and need's more stimulation to archive the ultimate goal!
What more do I have to type???
I cant belive people,If the medical community decided that removing breast's was the cure for Breast cancer women would be outraged!!!!
Wake up People,A Foreskin IS normal!!!!!
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replied September 27th, 2008
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Didnt say it was not NORMAL!

Don't get your panties in a freakin knot!

My boyfriend is un-cut I love it!

tadaa you are right there you go?

That what you wanted to hear.

YOU... ARE... RIGHT

Congratulations. You win nothing!

Done arguing about a mans penis.
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replied September 27th, 2008
I didnt mean to piss you off but I just want everyone to know the truth!!
Thank You for the Congratulation and for the last comment,maybe other woman will read it and become aware of the damage that circumcision does :0)
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replied September 27th, 2008
SmilesandSunshine wrote:
It all comes down to personal choice.


The penis owner's personal choice, you mean?

If there was a medical problem and the doctor said "circumcision or frenuloplasty?" that would be a parent's choice to make. When there is a normal healthy baby, you don't ask a doctor to amputate body parts, and any doctor who would has no commitment to the hipocratic oath.
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replied September 27th, 2008
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Ok, moving this to Parenting Debate...

Carry on.
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replied September 30th, 2008
never, it's should be the boy's decision, there is no benefit to doing it that early other then it's cheaper and the doctor can't be sued because he won't know what he's missing
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replied September 30th, 2008
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Blah!
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replied October 2nd, 2008
SmilesandSunshine wrote:
It all comes down to personal choice.

Yes, but who's personal choice? Doesn't the man that the baby will grow into have a say in the matter? I wish I had the choice. I would choose to not be circumcised.

Parents say it should be their choice to amputate a part of their baby's penis. I don't understand why any parent would put their child through that. A penis with a foreskin is just as easy to clean and care for as a circumcised penis. The best way to prevent AIDS is to use a condom or abstain. The cancer scare was just a scare.

Fortunately, more and more enlightened parents are realizing that circumcision is an unnecessary amputation.
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replied February 21st, 2009
what a load of crsp this all is - As my son's parent/guardian, I have the say and my son is going in to be snipped. My wife agrees its our choice and accepts my direction in this
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replied February 21st, 2009
forheavensake wrote:
what a load of crsp this all is - As my son's parent/guardian, I have the say and my son is going in to be snipped. My wife agrees its our choice and accepts my direction in this

Glad to see we have some enlightened parents here NOT! Do you plan on tattooing your child, also? After all, you are his parent/guardian. Kids also have lots of ear infections, why not have his ears removed. Where do you draw the line? Cutting off a body part that is not diseased is cutting off a body part.
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replied February 23rd, 2009
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I chose not to circumsise my son. Partly because my husband is not and partly because I work in the medical field and know how unnecessary it is. It does not make one more prone to urinary tract infections, it does not raise the risk of STD's, etc. The only thing I would advise a parent to be mindful of is to not attempt to pull back the foreskin to clean under it until it can roll back on its own. It is a self-cleaning organ, much like the vagina. When it does roll back on its own, teach your child to properly wash it, either water and a washcloth or a mild soap and a washcloth, no scrubbing needed. Also, be aware of signs of phimosis and frenulem breve, both if caught early can be easily treated. If your son cannot fully retract his foreskin by the age of 6, take him to the pediatrician. My son had a small case of phimosis, which was easily treated by a cream. His foreskin was attached still to one side of his glans and that cream loosened up the last bit. Frenulem breve can be treated with a very simple, minor surgery that does not involve circumcision. I personally don't care what another parent decides to do, as I have no control over their choices, nor desire that control. I am just stating my own opinion.
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replied May 2nd, 2009
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A new born child need not to be circumcised . If necessary you can practice precutioplasty
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replied May 6th, 2009
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Circumcision was started not only to stop masturbation, but also to make sex less enjoyable to the WOMAN.

There is no good reason to cut a healthy baby.
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replied July 29th, 2009
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Circumcision was started for various reasons in various regions... It was a practice in Britain to treat STD sores that localized under the foreskin. It was started in Rome for cosmetic reasons. Started in Egypt and Africa as a rite of passage. In Korea... a ritual. All of these started long before America as a perceived tool to prevent masturbation. It's easy to pick and choose whatever reason you want to support your opinion.

Complications from circumcision are rare. It is proven that the older a male is when a circumcision is performed the more pain and complications there are. Yes, it is painful for the infant but the medical professionals recognize this and are trending toward prep. IE: numbing agents and pre medicating (Infant Tylenol/Advil) for pain control.

Most later in life circumcisions are performed secondary to complications. It's not like a man wakes up one morning and decides he is going to get cut for the heck of it.

BTW, you can die from a UTI. Many UTI are not symptomatic and go systemic before they get treated. Much like the example of an above poster about the little boy with brain damage from a systemic infection. Again, a rare occurrence. Studies have shown that circumcision can aid in preventing these as well as HPV, AIDS, Cancer and other diseases. Not just in men but in their female partners. Cleanliness is an issue. Teaching cleanliness is a must. However, there are those occasions when it just doesn't happen or in some cases where a man just physically cannot do it. IE: a man with arthritis in his hands that prevent him from even holding a cup little own retracting his foreskin and washing.

As mentioned previously, the foreskin produces fluids that aid in lubrication. There is a plus but that fluid also becomes what is know as smegma. That white, cheesy, smelly stuff around the glans under the foreskin.

There is no evidence that sex with an uncircumcised man is more enjoyable to a woman or visa verse. There is also no evidence that painful sex for a woman is due to circumcision. Not enough lubrication is more often a female hormone problem and has nothing to do with foreskin.

Female circumcision cannot even be compared to male. Cutting the penis off is the equivalent of female circumcision. Female is done to ensure the woman does not have orgasm or pleasurable sex. As far as cutting the labia... yes, the labia prevent and protect but still cannot be compared to foreskin. No foreskin does not leave an opening exposed for infection and whatnot like no labia would for a woman. As for cutting the breasts off to prevent cancer... we already do. The breasts have a proven function... feeding your child. The argument to do it in infancy and take that choice away... I guess if you are willing to take the benefit of breastfeeding away from your grandchildren you could make that choice at your daughter's birth. Again, cannot compare to foreskin.

As far as the infant not bonding and trust being lost... that one study was done in the 1980's and has since been modified in explanation. It now states that when the infant is returned to the mother he may be exhausted and stressed and may have some difficulty breast feeding or latching on immediately after. It is not proven anywhere in any medical study that a child remembers anything of their circumcision if it's done before they leave the hospital. Ask a 5 year old about his circumcision he had when he was 4 though and see what you get.

As far as the nerves in the foreskin... Men can argue with each other till they are blue in the face about which is more sexually pleasurable. Neither truly know what the other feels and I have heard arguments from both. I have actually heard men who had circumcisions later in life claim that sex is more pleasurable after the circumcision.

Those opposed to circumcision often use the word mutilation to slam their point home. That's like using the word sodomy to oppose anal sex or the N word to describe an African American. Strong words make strong statements but all mean the same thing.

Bottom line... IF you choose to have your infant circumcised it is best to have it done before you take him home. There are some medical risks and benefits but most are rare on both sides. Kind of like getting your child vaccinated for measles. The measles is pretty much obsolete but there is still the risk of contracting it.
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replied February 21st, 2010
Alot of males in the world are circumcised !
Some one said New Zealand and Australia dont circumcise anymore ? Rubbish as I live in NZ and have spent many years in Australia. Most men in Australia are cut long with about 30-40 % of men in New Zealand. And as for Canada ! They still do it there too , big time !
Circumcision is now becoming very popular in the Russia and is very common in most countrys of Africa. Moslem countrys are all over the world including Malaysia and Indinesia and both have very big populations and they are 100% into circumcision. Now someone said Catholics dont circumcise ! What about the Philippines ? If you live there and are not circumcised you are not welcome.
In South America circumcision is done as ive had boyfriends from there and they have been cut orthough it is not that common. CIRCUMCISION is alive and well in the world and it always will be. That Farmer Ted need to find a new hobby. You North American woman who want to circumcise your boys , keep doing it ! Its how it should be and as you all know , Jesus was cut.
Some of these anti-circ males are like that because they are not circumcised , and thats sad.
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replied May 11th, 2012
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Just a quick update on this post.
No Public hospital in Australia will now perform circumcision.
This now only takes place in private practice.
From the late 80's circumcision has lost favour here and
today the figure is lower than 10% circumcision.
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replied March 22nd, 2010
newmommy07 wrote:
i had my son circumsized the day he was born. i could have done w/o the procedure but i just find it gross with that flapping extra skin. good hygine is key and that is fine if you teach them to clean it properly... i do have a bf who still has his foreskin and i find it repulsive, thats just me tho. it smells always even after a good cleansing. id prefer circumsized because of that personal exp. i'd perfer my son (and he is circumsized) to be that way..


As soon as possible is best. newmommy07 my bf is also uncircumcised and im not a fan of it. From this experience with him I will definately circumcise my kids.
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replied April 16th, 2010
I cannot believe the amount of misinformation tossed around in these sites. As a medical professional I cannot tell you how many times I have dealt with problems with uncircumcised males. Swelling when children forget to retract the foreskin necessitating visits to the emergency room, urinary tract infections from bacteria trapped under foreskin from not cleaning properly, foreskins closing/not growing as child ages so that eventually foreskin cannot even be retracted for cleaning....
EVERY doctor and nurse I have talked with in numerous hospitals from the east coast to the west coast have agreed that circumcision is a good idea. Agreed, it is not a necessity, but considering all the potential problems, I would never dream of not circumcising my child.
Most people (not medical professionals) that I have talked to that are against circumcision are against it because THEY consider it traumatic. The infant does not remember or harbor resentment, it is a quick and simple procedure that saves much potential trouble down the road.
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replied October 16th, 2010
Hi there. I live in "impoverished Africa". My son got circumcised a week ago in a 'private hospital' by a 'professional' urologist. It WAS covered by medical aid. He did not cry, but complained when he was injected with anestecia. You can tell how excruciating the pain is by his reaction or how he cries.

It seemed very painful when the anestecia wore off
but TODAYS local anestectic gels are so good that the worst was over after the first application/day. From then onwards, I never heard him cry like that again. I made sure I applied it consistently. NO one knows my son like i do. I could tell that the experience wasnt as terrible as it has been made out to be. Thanks to modern day technology. The doctor placed a cap on it, that proteced the wound. It falls off as soon as he is healed.

This experience brought us CLOSER as I was the one that nursed him made the pain better and held him tight. Breastfedding also soothed him. I am a WOMAN talking about MY bonding experience with MY son.

The pain was quick and now it is forgotten. It was a hard decision to make due to the pro's and cons involved either way. Not sure how he will feel in future but i am confident with the informed decision that I made and it was in his best interests. God appointd me to make decisions on his behalf. He has given me a mothers intuition. Farmeted, i am sure you parents intentions were not to harm you, but you are to bitter to look at the bigger picture. I DO hope you make peace with what has happened.

Suppose i did not do it. What if he grows up to wish I had? Has anyone looked at it from THAT point of view?
What if he later wants to do it...makes appointments and cancels them at the last minute because the thought of the procedure is too scary for him?

Regarding Complications, they can happen with anything or anyone under the sun at any given time. When you get into you car, you may die before you reach your destination. A pregnant woman can die while giving birth.
Life is about trial and error. Any of the information we recieve could be wrong. Do what makes sense to you and what feels right. As parents our intentions are not to harm our children and I am not going to let ANYONE make me feel that I made the wrong decision.
OH AND LIFE IS NOT ABOUT HAVING THE BEST SEXUAL EXPERIENCE !!!!!!!!
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replied April 16th, 2011
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Our son is now in his twenties, also had him circumcised when he was an infant, as he grew up it was explained to him what had happened to his penis & why. He has on many occasions voiced his approval and stated that he was glad that it had been done & over with.
The only time the circumcision seemed to upset him was just after he wet himself until he was changed, and that was only for the first week.
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replied January 16th, 2011
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The foreskin like every other part of our body has taken millions of years to develop. It acts as a protective cover for one of the bodys most sensitive and important organs. Don't mess with it. Definitely don't mess with someone elses even if they are your children. Proper hygiene is important. There are also glands in the foreskin that prevent infection and protect the head of the penis.
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replied May 4th, 2011
I would like to tell my story. My parents chose not to circumcise me, and as such I had terrible problems. The foreskin was too tight for my penis and as such caused me great strain and distress during sex, severely effecting my sex life and causing me emotional issues. I also suffered from UTIs regularly, even though I cleaned regularly - it was caused by the tightness of the skin. Finally, I had the snip four years ago, which as an adult takes longer to heal, requires general anesthetic, and puts the body through more strain. I'll never forgive my parents for putting me through this. I know so many other men in similar situations. If anyone here says that UTIs are not increased, then they're idiots, plain and simple. I'm living proof.

I'm finally happy and healthy, and that is why my son will be circumcised.
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