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Posted: 05-16-08 04:36am

Hi,

I am from India.

i received a cut on my neck at a salon while getting a shave done. I went for a test after one month and then repeated a test after 86 days. both were negative. AM I IN THE CLEAR.... can i rest in peace? please help

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Posted: 05-16-08 04:48am

somebody please help me. do i need to repeat any test?
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Posted: 05-16-08 05:25am

Please help me. I beg of you guys.
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Posted: 05-16-08 05:41am

Hello, don't worry about the lack of responses, you are not being ignored - the bulk of the users here are from the US so they were still in bed while you wrote your posts Wink

To answer your question, relax! Not only is it unlikely you would have caught HIV that way but you've had 2 negative tests now. Just to be sure you could have another test in a few months but I really think you're okay.
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Posted: 05-16-08 05:49am

I did a final test after 86 days of my exposure. do I yet require a test. i mean i missed the mark by 4 days... does such a short period make a difference? I MEAN IS IT REALLY IMPORTANT TO REPEAT A TEST?
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Posted: 05-16-08 10:02am

Can you please help
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Posted: 05-16-08 10:10am

no, you can not get AIDs that way. HIV can not live out side the body. relax.
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Posted: 05-16-08 10:12am

ambuzz wrote:
I did a final test after 86 days of my exposure. do I yet require a test. i mean i missed the mark by 4 days... does such a short period make a difference? I MEAN IS IT REALLY IMPORTANT TO REPEAT A TEST?
as long as it was at least 3 months after risk then any time is fine. YOU ARE FINE. You can not get HIV from a cut unless you and some one else are neck and neck...
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Posted: 05-16-08 10:17am

it was 86 days when i did a repeat test.... do you think 4 days could have changed the report? it is 12 weeks but 90 days... do you see risk in it? also what does neck and neck mean? can i consider my second test report it conclusive?
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Posted: 05-16-08 10:24am

Can I consider it conclusive....
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Posted: 05-16-08 10:30am

Yes. Conclusive. When i said neck and neck I meant that the only way you could give or get HIV from bleeding from your neck would be if some one who had HIV was also bleeding from there neck and you put the bleeding cuts together. I was just trying to give you an example about how hard it actually is to pass the virus from one person to another. You have to exchange body fluids. You say you were cut by a razor? You cant get it from that. The virus can only live for a few seconds outside the body so you can forget about it. You are safe. Enjoy your life. let this go. You are fine.
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Posted: 05-16-08 10:36am

Homer, if the virus only lives for seconds outside the body, why do they make piercers and tatooists sterilise all their equipment? I know other nasties can be passed on but I thought it was because of the HIV risk too?
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Posted: 05-16-08 10:41am

thanks a ton sir. your confidence brought hope and happiness. oh by the way your thumbnail is an Indian Deity- Lord Shiva in a Tandav Avtar...that means in a dancing state of anger
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Posted: 05-16-08 11:06am

ambuzz wrote:
thanks a ton sir. your confidence brought hope and happiness. oh by the way your thumbnail is an Indian Deity- Lord Shiva in a Tandav Avtar...that means in a dancing state of anger
Cool...thank you... respect
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Posted: 05-16-08 11:17am

Jules wrote:
Homer, if the virus only lives for seconds outside the body, why do they make piercers and tatooists sterilise all their equipment? I know other nasties can be passed on but I thought it was because of the HIV risk too?
The easy answer is that HIV requires living cells to persist - so exposure to air will typically result in cell death within a few seconds to hours. The only exception to this is in the case where a larger volume of blood is spilled, then the cells in the center of the pool will be preserved for a longer period of time. But the general answer to the typical small cut and blood contact is that the virus survives very poorly outside the body and is probably of minimal risk as soon as the blood dries (minutes to hours depending on the volume of the spill or cut).

Tattooing:

A risk of HIV transmission does exist if instruments contaminated with blood are either not sterilized or disinfected or are used inappropriately between clients. CDC recommends that instruments that are intended to penetrate the skin be used once, then disposed of or thoroughly cleaned and sterilized.

Personal service workers who do tattooing or body piercing should be educated about how HIV is transmitted and take precautions to prevent transmission of HIV and other blood-borne infections in their settings. If you are considering getting a tattoo or having your body pierced, ask staff at the establishment what procedures they use to prevent the spread of HIV and other blood-borne infections, such as hepatitis B virus. You also may call the local health department to find out what sterilization procedures are in place in the local area for these types of establishments.
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Posted: 05-16-08 11:23am

hope this doesn not rtelate to my incident at all... does it?
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Posted: 05-16-08 11:28am

No, you are fine my friend.
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Posted: 05-16-08 11:30am

Thank you.. it is time for me to go off to bed.. good night.
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Posted: 05-16-08 11:30am

Also let me add this. Even if some one who has HIV used a razor and then you used the came razor, if the blood was dry you could not get the HIV that way.
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Posted: 05-16-08 11:35am

How long can the HIV virus survive outside the body? What conditions would be necessary in order for the virus to live?

The best answer I have found for this question is from a CDC pamphlet, from which I extracted the following information:

HIV in the Environment

Scientists and medical authorities agree that HIV does not survive well in the environment, making the possibility of environmental transmission remote. HIV is found in varying concentrations or amounts in blood, semen, vaginal fluid, breast milk, saliva, and tears. (See below, Saliva, Tears, and Sweat.) In order to obtain data on the survival of HIV, laboratory studies have required the use of artificially high concentrations of laboratory-grown virus. Although these unnatural concentrations of HIV can be kept alive under precisely controlled and limited laboratory conditions, CDC studies have showned that drying of even these high concentrations of HIV reduces the number of infectious viruses by 90 to 99 percent within several hours. Since the HIV concentrations used in laboratory studies are much higher than those actually found in blood or other specimens, drying of HIV- infected human blood or other body fluids reduces the theoretical risk of environmental transmission to that which has been observed--essentially zero.

Incorrect interpretation of conclusions drawn from laboratory studies have alarmed people unnecessarily. Results from laboratory studies should not be used to determine specific personal risk of infection because 1) the amount of virus studied is not found in human specimens or anyplace else in nature, and 2) no one has been identified with HIV due to contact with an environmental surface; Additionally, since HIV is unable to reproduce outside its living host (unlike many bacteria or fungi, which may do so under suitable conditions), except under laboratory conditions, it does not spread or maintain infectiousness outside its host.

HIV is sensitive to fluctuations in temperature and the presence of oxygen. One place that HIV has been know to survive in is drug injection syringes since these are airtight and often contain blood from the injector.
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