well i have actually encountered someone who aborted her child not because she doesn't have a choice but because she wanted to. i'm not saying that opting for your child to be adopted (the child as a result of an assault) is the right thing to do. i was just merely saying that still, a woman has another choice aside from abortion. as you have said, some women even decide do go thorugh with the pregnancy and even love the child. one cannot imply what's right or wrong to another but could only show or give options to the other person. i would agree though that measures to prevent unwanted pregnancies should not be shunned down. i would opt more family planning methods may it be natural or artificial than abortion though to avoid these unwanted pregnancies. i also know some women who went through abortion and had undergone emotional stress and trauma after it. in the end, i believe it's still under the discretion and decisions of the parties involved of how they're going to handle their circumstances.

lostandy:

Fair enough. So long as you don't advocate that I and other women should be forced by law to incubate against our will like slaves, we're good.

i never mentioned putting a child for adoption is a simple thing. i don't think it is proudmommyof2008. i am aware of the fact that "simple things" for someone could be as hell complicated for others. it all depends on the circumstances, the people involved and the options they have. don't get me wrong proudmommy as i have said i was merely presenting options and not dictating what is good or not for everybody.

i dont doubt that some do go through with the pregnancy and raise the child or put it up for adoption, just the way you said it in your earlier post made it seem like you were saying its an easy thing to do..

Of course many women go through trauma after abortion. Firstly abortion can be a very physically unpleasant situation. You are coming to terms with the fact that you have ended a pregnancy. Secondly depending on which method you use, it can be either very invasive and undignified, or very painful.
I'm not saying that it is a piece of cake, it most definately is not. But it's not anymore difficult than adoption. I'm just trying to point out that for many women adoption is NOT an option, and if a woman feels she cannot cope with putting a baby up for adoption, and cannot care for it herself then she it would be the kindest thing to allow her to have an abortion.
There is not such thing as an "easy way out".
She should be presented with her all options, and allowed to decide what she feels is best.

ive never had an abortion, but myself personally feel that adoption would be much much harder for me to go through. think about it, 9 months of bonding, giving birth, seeing that baby then giving him or her to a loving family...
i think that would be alot harder to to than end a life before anything could come from it, and before any bonding or attachment came of it..

Depends on the individual, I suppose. I for one have no problem evicting an uninvited guest from my body, just as I'm sure men would have no problem turning down blood, organ or tissue donations.

I really don't see why women should be held to higher standards in terms of self-sharing and sacrifice. Corpses have more rights than pregnant women, for crying out loud. Nobody contests the right to refuse organ donation even after death, but living, sentient women are expected to share their bodies (possibly enduring PERMANENT organ damage) with mindless fetuses that aren't even aware of their own existence.

Double standards are bad enough without the added trash of double-standards of bodily autonomy.

I agree that actual life should have more rights than potential life.

A non-sentient foetus which is unaware of its existance should not have rights over a living breathing woman.

There are ways to avoid reproduction without using contraceptives. Me and my husband did it for 2 years and when we decided we wanted a child it took less than two months before I was 4 weeks pregnant and had a positive home pregnancy test and u/s. Its harder but its cheaper and in my opinion MUCH more fun than taking pills or having surgery.

Was this Natural Family Planning or another method?
How did you do this?

Having only oral or anal sex is remarkably effective as contraception.

We had vaginal and oral sex, I love receiving oral sex, timing is everything they have fertility monitors now. They cost between 30-200 USD. The use of the fertility monitors and control of my vaginal muscles is why I have control over when I reproduce. Every woman is different but this method can be very effective and I'd only reccomend using it in a stable relationship because it is unprotected sex. I'm sure a smuch as noone wants an unwanted pregnancy they don;t want an STI or STD either.

Condoms are best for other situations, particularly ones with spermicide. Those are the ones we used before we were engaged.

Fertility monitors can be quite ineffective. Especially for women who do not have regular cycles and also for those who double-ovulate. Did you know you can ovulate at ANY time of your cycle? Sometimes twice? Yeah, it can happen. That is why I do not advocate natural family planning. I advocate birth control of some type. Condoms with spermicide-not so good for those allergic to spermicides. Hormonal birth control-not good for us who cannot take hormones. Tubal ligations-ha ha, only if your doctor gives you permission. Anyone seeing a problem here? Abortion-great in cases of failed birth control, be it natural family planning or a condom breaking. But, just like birth control and natural family planning is not for everyone, abortion is not for everyone. You don't like it? Don't have one. Plain and simple.

Fertility monitors can be as ineffective as hormone based birth control. Everyone in the medical field agrees that the best thing to do is to use condoms with spermicide in conjunction with whatever method of birth control you decide to use, but the high occurence and rate of STDs and STIs in women is consistant with inconsistant condom use.

Natural Family Planning wont work for everyone I suppose but it certainly works for me.

You wont get an arguement out of me about abortion not being for everyone. I'm pro-choice but I would never have an abortion.

I don't get them when they are little and cute. I get them when they are 17 and facing
trial on multiple charges

I don't see them when they are reaching out for love, I see them in a cell when I'm trying to get a statement from them because the Court has assigned me to defend them.

One of my first cases was very much like Lee Boyd Malvo. This boy had been abandoned my his mother when he was three months old. We don't know his father. He was left for his grandmother to raise. She died.

If abortion was legal and on demand in my country then this boy might not have been born and eleven people would not have been
victims in his quest to please a neighbourhood don.

If one is not prepared to bear and raise the child, then abortion is the right choice.

how about if one is not prepared to bear and raise the child, then sex is not the right choice

Oh god, another mindless parrot wandered away from a pirate's shoulder.

OMG....ROFL...I think I peed my pants!!! LOL

I adore this!

Abortion ISN'T right. It's just that simple.