Whats the point of going on?

You are telling the story Jack. You don't want help, then you go without. Your choice mate.

You know why you wrote here.

Tell me why you did.

i have been through a simular situation, i didnt want to plan anything in my future because i didnt think i deserved it, and i didnt want to be there. when you are ready you will reach out for help wether that is from friends/family/doctors. this is what i did but i left it too late i ended up self harming because i hated myself so much. im only 16 and have learnt the importance of talking, when you are ready you should try it, it realy does help and i now want a future.

Guys,

You don't like what you are or have, right. SO change it. Life is a once only gift. You can make it misery or normal or OK. But you can't make it "happy" as that is an illusion. If you did have "happy" all the time it would become boring, and, as humans do, you'd look for something else.

What you need is change. That's all. Change your lives, don't sit there and accept what others give you. I used to. I felt like a doormat and just got angrier and angrier until I broke down. Not a good experience I can tell you. And coming back from that far down is so damned hard I'd suggest you start acting now.

Life can be good, not all day, every day, but enough to make it worh while.

Your choice, every time. Choose misery, it's so easy isn't it. Choose good and you have to work for it and put your heart into it. Choose.

that is easy enough to say but when you can not see your future or don't want it you arnt going to change your life. however iamjackshatred is doing the first step and is reaching out for help. they are talking about thier issues on here. you can only start to help yourself when you are ready and decide it needs to change. having someone else telling you what to do is noy going to help.

Sorry Givenup,

Jack has not actually asked for help at all.His post is more a list of despair and where he thinks he has failed.

I've asked him why he posted as he said he didn't know why he had. He has not answered. So, no, he has not taken the first step of asking for help at all.

I am simply trying to encourage them to start looking after themselves and for you to say I'm telling them what to do is very wrong.

Did you not read these last words of my post :

"Your choice, every time. Choose misery, it's so easy isn't it. Choose good and you have to work for it and put your heart into it. Choose."

How can you possibly interpret that as "telling them what to do"?

You, yourself, have said that now you are actually trying that now you want a future.

That's the whole point Given. YOU have to want it, no one else can do it for you or even make you want it. It's YOUR choice, always.

I give advice and suggestions, not tell people what to do. You cannot tell someone else what to do as they always have personal choice. I can warn them of potential consequences but that doesn't stop people doing what they want either.

And I repeat, no, Jack has NOT asked for help at all. And nor has he replied when I asked him if he did.

Do you really think I suggest any of this is easy? DO you? It's not and I say so above. If one has depression then a doctor is a must as it won't go away by itself. So, at some stage, people have to take the initiative and seek at least medical advice. That IS easy.

The essence of my words is that the person has TO WANT to change. You say that yourself so I do not understand your attack on me over something you have written yourself.

Writing me personal messages of abuse is also unacceptable and any more will be reported. I excuse the one you've sent because of your youth.