to illegalize abortion and get an unborn human fetus' status bumped up to living human being in the law's eyes:
1. You must provide a birth certificate for EVERY fertilized egg. Life starts there.
2. You must be willing to provide a death certificate for every fertilized egg or embryo or fetus that has been miscarried.
3. You must be able to provide a social security card to every fertilized egg.
4. Because this fertilized egg has a socail security card, the parents are eligible to provide each fertilized egg a life insurance policy. Thus, if pregnancy ends naturally in miscarriage, the parents will have the right to claim the insurance. Prolifers: Are you willing to make the payouts?
5. Every fertilized egg/zygote/embryo/fetus counts as a person, so they count in the census.
6. Every fertilized egg/zygote/embryo/fetus is eligible to be claimed as a dependant on the parents' tax forms. Prolifers: You willing to gather the extra funds for all of these "lives"?
7. Every fertilized egg, etc. has a social security card, therefore it qualifies for WIC, medical and welfare benefits...wonder how that will impact our taxes.
Prochocers: Feel free to add to the list
Do you see how ridiculous this all is? Seriously. A fetus is a human. No denying that. It is considered a human being in some people's eyes. Yes, a fetus is a valuable. But it is not considered valuable to a woman or young girl who did not plan to bring it into the world at that time, sometimes that WAY even (think rape or incest). Some women out there consider it more heinous to allow a fetus with life threatening disablities be born only to die minutes, hours, days after birth. Some women value their lives more than to sacrifice themselves for a fetus that may or may not be born in the first place. One thing for sure is if the woman dies, the fetus dies. Most women would not want you sticking your nose into their sex lives. Some women do not desire children but desire sex. Sometimes these women are turned down for tubals or hysterectomies because they have no children or are "too young and emotionally underdeveloped" in their doctor's eyes. Some women are married, done having children, get on birth control or have their tubes tied and still end up pregnant. Some women would not want to have a major surgery such as a hysterectomy, all in the effort of reducing abortion rates. Yes, we think about the fetus a lot. And what it is missing. But do we know if it even misses anything anyway? Do we know if it would even be born? No. But we do know that the woman exists. But for some reason, she does not count.
Notice that I have left out any morals as you cannot impose YOUR individual morals on someone else, just as you cannot impose your religion upon someone else. So since morals are a clear choice, you can either choose to abort (if your morals/religion stand for it) or choose NOT to abort (if you are morally/religiously against it). But you cannot make someone else follow your morals or religion as it is not allowed (at least here)nor is it legal.
1. You must provide a birth certificate for EVERY fertilized egg. Life starts there.
2. You must be willing to provide a death certificate for every fertilized egg or embryo or fetus that has been miscarried.
3. You must be able to provide a social security card to every fertilized egg.
4. Because this fertilized egg has a socail security card, the parents are eligible to provide each fertilized egg a life insurance policy. Thus, if pregnancy ends naturally in miscarriage, the parents will have the right to claim the insurance. Prolifers: Are you willing to make the payouts?
5. Every fertilized egg/zygote/embryo/fetus counts as a person, so they count in the census.
6. Every fertilized egg/zygote/embryo/fetus is eligible to be claimed as a dependant on the parents' tax forms. Prolifers: You willing to gather the extra funds for all of these "lives"?
7. Every fertilized egg, etc. has a social security card, therefore it qualifies for WIC, medical and welfare benefits...wonder how that will impact our taxes.
Prochocers: Feel free to add to the list
Do you see how ridiculous this all is? Seriously. A fetus is a human. No denying that. It is considered a human being in some people's eyes. Yes, a fetus is a valuable. But it is not considered valuable to a woman or young girl who did not plan to bring it into the world at that time, sometimes that WAY even (think rape or incest). Some women out there consider it more heinous to allow a fetus with life threatening disablities be born only to die minutes, hours, days after birth. Some women value their lives more than to sacrifice themselves for a fetus that may or may not be born in the first place. One thing for sure is if the woman dies, the fetus dies. Most women would not want you sticking your nose into their sex lives. Some women do not desire children but desire sex. Sometimes these women are turned down for tubals or hysterectomies because they have no children or are "too young and emotionally underdeveloped" in their doctor's eyes. Some women are married, done having children, get on birth control or have their tubes tied and still end up pregnant. Some women would not want to have a major surgery such as a hysterectomy, all in the effort of reducing abortion rates. Yes, we think about the fetus a lot. And what it is missing. But do we know if it even misses anything anyway? Do we know if it would even be born? No. But we do know that the woman exists. But for some reason, she does not count.
Notice that I have left out any morals as you cannot impose YOUR individual morals on someone else, just as you cannot impose your religion upon someone else. So since morals are a clear choice, you can either choose to abort (if your morals/religion stand for it) or choose NOT to abort (if you are morally/religiously against it). But you cannot make someone else follow your morals or religion as it is not allowed (at least here)nor is it legal.
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Tobacco, alcohol and the use of other legal chemicals must be outlawed for EVERYONE, not just pregnant women. Otherwise the restrictions put up only for pregnant women would simply be discrimination against one gender and a violation of human rights.
Birth control and elective sterilization must be free for any woman that desires to use it, and it must be funded by prolifers since they are the ones that want to curtail female rights once women are pregnant. If they wish to treat pregnant women as walking wombs, then they must provide the means for all women to avoid pregnancy as completely as possible.
Rapists must be publicly executed. Since "personhood" laws would utterly violate pregnant women's human rights, those who would force fertilization on women must be done away with completely.
No woman forced to bear offspring should be held accountable for said offspring once it's born. If an unwilling woman wants to leave her resulting baby without looking back, there will be no repercussions for her and the government and prolifers can take care of it.
Birth control and elective sterilization must be free for any woman that desires to use it, and it must be funded by prolifers since they are the ones that want to curtail female rights once women are pregnant. If they wish to treat pregnant women as walking wombs, then they must provide the means for all women to avoid pregnancy as completely as possible.
Rapists must be publicly executed. Since "personhood" laws would utterly violate pregnant women's human rights, those who would force fertilization on women must be done away with completely.
No woman forced to bear offspring should be held accountable for said offspring once it's born. If an unwilling woman wants to leave her resulting baby without looking back, there will be no repercussions for her and the government and prolifers can take care of it.
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Every sexually active woman between the age of 10 and 55 would have to be assumed to be pregnant, unless she has had a complete hysterectomy (since birth control, including tubals and vasectomies, have some small chance of failure -- someone who has only had their uterus and not their ovaries removed could still have an ectopic pregnancy, and there has been at least one recorded delivery of a baby that gestated in some part of the abdomen other than the uterus). And since every zygote, embryo and fetus is being counted, every woman should automatically be receiving full child benefit and any tax deductions or tax credit.
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Every sexually active woman between the age of 10 and 55 would have to be assumed to be pregnant, unless she has had a complete hysterectomy (since birth control, including tubals and vasectomies, have some small chance of failure -- someone who has only had their uterus and not their ovaries removed could still have an ectopic pregnancy, and there has been at least one recorded delivery of a baby that gestated in some part of the abdomen other than the uterus). And since every zygote, embryo and fetus is being counted, every woman should automatically be receiving full child benefit and any tax deductions or tax credit.
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All vaccines must be provided to unborn based off of new age (if you are two months preggo, so is baby.)
All woman with mental disorder or health conditions such as diabetes,depression etc must stop taking pills as it can physically harm "the person(unborn.)
All pregnant woman will have their driving licenses revoked durin gthe time of pregnancy, if an accident were to occur she would be held liable for both herself and the unborn.
A pregnant woman is not allowed outside except completely covered(with an umbrella) since UVA rays are harmful.
A pregnant woman is no longer able to eat processed food or meat since they can contain harmfull chemicals or hormones.
A pregnant woman must not be allowed to work, since the stress casn impair the pregnancy.
A pregnant woman is no longer human....maybe she can be an alien..
All woman with mental disorder or health conditions such as diabetes,depression etc must stop taking pills as it can physically harm "the person(unborn.)
All pregnant woman will have their driving licenses revoked durin gthe time of pregnancy, if an accident were to occur she would be held liable for both herself and the unborn.
A pregnant woman is not allowed outside except completely covered(with an umbrella) since UVA rays are harmful.
A pregnant woman is no longer able to eat processed food or meat since they can contain harmfull chemicals or hormones.
A pregnant woman must not be allowed to work, since the stress casn impair the pregnancy.
A pregnant woman is no longer human....maybe she can be an alien..
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Although many would like to do so, I don't think abortion will ever be made illegal. It's very hard to make something illegal after it was once legal. Take Prohibition, for instance.
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Call me Crazy
i'm a rape victim. the day after i drug myself to the pharmacy, for the plan B pill.
I believe if abortion should be illegalized rape victims should still have the right to choose. Then again, women may lie and say they were raped when they didn't want a child. So, i dunno.
If I were impregnated when I was raped and abortion was illegal I would be in quite a pickle wouldn't I. Single mother, because I do not want to see the faces of those men again. Also, I don't mean to be cold but everytime I would see my child I would be reminded of that horrible experience.
I believe if abortion should be illegalized rape victims should still have the right to choose. Then again, women may lie and say they were raped when they didn't want a child. So, i dunno.
If I were impregnated when I was raped and abortion was illegal I would be in quite a pickle wouldn't I. Single mother, because I do not want to see the faces of those men again. Also, I don't mean to be cold but everytime I would see my child I would be reminded of that horrible experience.
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If abortion were made illegal, no one would care if you were raped and became pregnant. After all, "it's not the baby's fault! Don't punish it for its father's crimes!" You would be told that, if you don't want to be a mother, give your baby up for adoption. "There are so many couples who want a child who can't have one!" Because we all know that there aren't enough children in foster care waiting for these mystery couples.
Rape victims should become rented wombs for infertile couples! Didn't you know?
Rape victims should become rented wombs for infertile couples! Didn't you know?
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The world we live in
whether or not you are prolife or prochoice, a woman should have rights over her body. For several reasons I dont think that Roe V Wade will ever be over turned: If we make abortions illegal, they will just become back alley abortions, People will go to other countries to have them (Spending 1,000 dollars on a plane ticket and hotel for a night is much cheaper than 200,000 for 18 years to child care, A couple good chemists will find out the formula to abortion pills and make them in their garage, Woman who desire an abortion could result to other natural means of ending a pregnancy - parsley or ephedra X arenicoa conctions used to induce a period, thereby ridding the "host" of any cells, embryo,ect.
Also, the Birth control, Abortion industry is large, the government would lose revenue by making it illegal. Does this make sense to the prolifers, no - but personally I feel that the issue of child birth is personal decision, not one the government has any say in.
Also, the Birth control, Abortion industry is large, the government would lose revenue by making it illegal. Does this make sense to the prolifers, no - but personally I feel that the issue of child birth is personal decision, not one the government has any say in.
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couldnt bare the thought...
I dont like the thought of abortion, it makes me sad. I cant judge people of what they decide to do, example women is raped gets pregnant and has an abortion. A women knowingly has unprotected sex with her boyfriend knowing that she could get pregnant and when she does she finds out she pregnant and then has an abortion....you see where I am getting at? Some people are just irresponsible and knowing that there are a bunch of birth control options but choose to be careless and then kill and innocent being. To me if it was a young girl who got herself pregnant...adoption, or a rape victim...adoption but that is just my opinion I have never been in that situation so I dont know what I would do. I just cant bare the though of killing an innocent being. Plus there are soooo many parents out there who want children and cant have them....just my though...dont hate!
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| I dont like the thought of abortion, it makes me sad. I cant judge people of what they decide to do, example women is raped gets pregnant and has an abortion. A women knowingly has unprotected sex with her boyfriend knowing that she could get pregnant and when she does she finds out she pregnant and then has an abortion....you see where I am getting at? Some people are just irresponsible and knowing that there are a bunch of birth control options but choose to be careless and then kill and innocent being. To me if it was a young girl who got herself pregnant...adoption, or a rape victim...adoption but that is just my opinion I have never been in that situation so I dont know what I would do. I just cant bare the though of killing an innocent being. Plus there are soooo many parents out there who want children and cant have them....just my though...dont hate! |
Not hating on you or anything, but to turn around the statement "there are so many parents out there who want children and can't have them"....there are so many children out there who want parents and can't have them due to the child being older, disabled, sometimes not the racial preference, etc. And you need to keep in mind that some women could not emotionally handle giving a child up for adoption. Heck, they may not even be able to handle pregnancy itself. And with the mindset that it is more acceptable to abort a pregnancy due to rape/maternal health/fetal health issues shows that it is mainly the WAY the woman conceived that ticks prolifers off, not the fact that a fetus is being aborted. Yes, its perfectly okay to say you don't care for abortion. I really don't think anyone does. But until they come up with a fool proof birth control option that does not involve major surgery (ex. hysterectomy)then it is something that will need to be an option.
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| I dont like the thought of abortion, it makes me sad. I cant judge people of what they decide to do, example women is raped gets pregnant and has an abortion. A women knowingly has unprotected sex with her boyfriend knowing that she could get pregnant and when she does she finds out she pregnant and then has an abortion....you see where I am getting at? Some people are just irresponsible and knowing that there are a bunch of birth control options but choose to be careless and then kill and innocent being. To me if it was a young girl who got herself pregnant...adoption, or a rape victim...adoption but that is just my opinion I have never been in that situation so I dont know what I would do. I just cant bare the though of killing an innocent being. Plus there are soooo many parents out there who want children and cant have them....just my though...dont hate! |
Because someone who is irresponsible enough to have unprotected sex is the kind of person who will be so good as raising a child...Or someone who was drunk or on drugs or has had such poor sex education that she did not know how to use contraception or indeed that it was necessary (score another one for abstinence-only sex ed!). And let's just ignore those who did use contraception, which failed.
And if you want to be that sentimental about a being thatis not only smaller but also less sentient than a cockroach when it is aborted, that is up to you.
The one thing that is completely irrelevant is your last sentence -- the many "parents" (uh, no -- they aren't parents -- they are infertile!) who want children are not the concern of any other female. If they can't have them, they need to deal with it or adopt something that isn't a perfect white baby.
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