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on October 25th, 2008
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And any time a man has a fetus inside him that he doesn't want, I am sure he can get that removed too.
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replied on October 25th, 2008
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how can you fight for a woman's choice to whatever she wants with her body, without fighting for a man's choice to do whatever he wants with his body and not be a bunch of hypocrites. if a man walks into a doctors office and asks for a prescription for a big bottle of morphine because it is his body and his choice the doctor laughs in his face and tosses him out on his ear. but a woman walks into a doctors office and asks the doctor to kill her baby with an abortion next thing you know the woman is no longer pregnant and the doctor has a dead baby in his trash can. if a man goes to court for possesion of a big bottle of morphine you can bet the constitution of the united states of america that every woman on that jury will convict him and send him to prison and don't give a rats behind about a person's choice to do whatever they want with their body.


If a woman walked into a dr's office and insisted on morphine, I suspect she'd be turned out, too.

If a man walked into a dr's office and insisted on an abortion, he could get one. Oh, and be on the cover of the National Enquirer.

Apples to apples, not apples to car engines, buddy.

You have posted very telling, sexist comments. Not surprising in the least.
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replied on October 25th, 2008
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Birch wrote:
phlem wrote:
how can you fight for a woman's choice to whatever she wants with her body, without fighting for a man's choice to do whatever he wants with his body and not be a bunch of hypocrites. if a man walks into a doctors office and asks for a prescription for a big bottle of morphine because it is his body and his choice the doctor laughs in his face and tosses him out on his ear. but a woman walks into a doctors office and asks the doctor to kill her baby with an abortion next thing you know the woman is no longer pregnant and the doctor has a dead baby in his trash can. if a man goes to court for possesion of a big bottle of morphine you can bet the constitution of the united states of america that every woman on that jury will convict him and send him to prison and don't give a rats behind about a person's choice to do whatever they want with their body.


If a woman walked into a dr's office and insisted on morphine, I suspect she'd be turned out, too.

If a man walked into a dr's office and insisted on an abortion, he could get one. Oh, and be on the cover of the National Enquirer.

Apples to apples, not apples to car engines, buddy.

You have posted very telling, sexist comments. Not surprising in the least.
women talk about it being their body and their choice as to why they should be allowed abortions, but oviously they don't care about a man's body and choices being his so it is the women that are sexist.and the pro-choice movement is just a buch of self centered hypocrites spouting nonsense.
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Milan
replied on October 25th, 2008
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women talk about it being their body and their choice as to why they should be allowed abortions, but oviously they don't care about a man's body and choices being his so it is the women that are sexist.

OK, I'll bite... how is this so 'obvious'? Rolling Eyes

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and the pro-choice movement is just a buch of self centered hypocrites spouting nonsense.

ROFL giggle

I love anti-choicers like you. You do more harm to their reputation than 1000 Pro-Choicers ever could Wink
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replied on October 25th, 2008
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quote]women talk about it being their body and their choice as to why they should be allowed abortions, but oviously they don't care about a man's body and choices being his so it is the women that are sexist.and the pro-choice movement is just a buch of self centered hypocrites spouting nonsense.


Three words came to mind: dishonest, stereotypes, and ignorant.
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Milan
replied on October 25th, 2008
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Phlem I'm trying to offer you an olive branch and meet you half way here. Why is it that you feel that (Brad Pitt aside) women don't care about a man's body? Is it because men have no say so in what happens to the ZEF? Question
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replied on October 25th, 2008
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Phlem I'm trying to offer you an olive branch and meet you half way here. Why is it that you feel that (Brad Pitt aside) women don't care about a man's body? Is it because men have no say so in what happens to the ZEF? Question
because if i had control of my own body i'd be sticking the bottle of morphine of my own choice into my own arm which is a part of my own body right now. just to help me forget that milan and others like milan are the ones who control this idiotic society. you don't like me participating in this debate but you don't give me the freedom of choice to numb my brain up enough so that i don't care about this debate.
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replied on October 25th, 2008
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Hey buddy, I am all for you numbing your brain. I support the legality of many drugs, so here's someone that doesn't fit your mold.

No one said you couldn't participate in the debate.
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Milan
replied on October 25th, 2008
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because if i had control of my own body i'd be sticking the bottle of morphine of my own choice into my own arm which is a part of my own body right now.

Morphine didn't do much for me when I needed it so I wouldn't let it get you down. You do understand that in this country you need to be in a hospital to get it don't you? Now, why would you want to be hurting so much that you're in the hospital? Are you a masochist?
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replied on October 25th, 2008
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because if i had control of my own body i'd be sticking the bottle of morphine of my own choice into my own arm which is a part of my own body right now.

Morphine didn't do much for me when I needed it so I wouldn't let it get you down. You do understand that in this country you need to be in a hospital to get it don't you? Now, why would you want to be hurting so much that you're in the hospital? Are you a masochist?
having to be in a hospital to get morphine is not freedom of choice which you seem to place such importance on.and the existence of morphine is the only requirement to having morphine.
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replied on October 25th, 2008
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having to be in a hospital to get morphine is not freedom of choice which you seem to place such importance on.

No one who is in control of their senses wants to be in a hospital. It is true that we place a high importance on freedom of choice, and for good reason. All I can say to you is choice is not something so frivolous or plentiful that we can pick it from a tree whenever we wish. Choice is a vulnerable thing, which is why we value it so much, and try to protect it everyday. One of the things that makes us human at our very core is that we understand that we are able to have a choice. Why would you want to take that away from a woman when you yourself have it?
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WhiteHairs
replied on October 26th, 2008
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phlem wrote:
having to be in a hospital to get morphine is not freedom of choice which you seem to place such importance on.

No one who is in control of their senses wants to be in a hospital. It is true that we place a high importance on freedom of choice, and for good reason. All I can say to you is choice is not something so frivolous or plentiful that we can pick it from a tree whenever we wish. Choice is a vulnerable thing, which is why we value it so much, and try to protect it everyday. One of the things that makes us human at our very core is that we understand that we are able to have a choice. Why would you want to take that away from a woman when you yourself have it?
actually morphine comes from a flower not a tree. try traveling to burma and telling people they have to be in a hospital to get morphine.
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Milan
replied on October 26th, 2008
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actually morphine comes from a flower not a tree.

You seriously have a problem with reading what people actually write don't you? Rolling Eyes
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replied on October 26th, 2008
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actually morphine comes from a flower not a tree.

You seriously have a problem with reading what people actually write don't you? Rolling Eyes
you said a woman's choice to kill her baby with an abortion is not frivilous. and my choice to have morphine is frivolous. and that morphine comes from trees. i think a womans choice to kill her baby with an abortion is no less frivolous than my choice to have morphine. and i know morphine comes from flowers and not trees.
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Milan
replied on October 26th, 2008
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you said a woman's choice to kill her baby with an abortion is not frivilous. and my choice to have morphine is frivolous. and that morphine comes from trees. i think a womans choice to kill her baby with an abortion is no less frivolous than my choice to have morphine. and i know morphine comes from flowers and not trees.

I didn't say that. You keep misquoting people and I don't think it's by mistake. You're acting like a troll.
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replied on October 26th, 2008
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Milan wrote:
phlem wrote:
you said a woman's choice to kill her baby with an abortion is not frivilous. and my choice to have morphine is frivolous. and that morphine comes from trees. i think a womans choice to kill her baby with an abortion is no less frivolous than my choice to have morphine. and i know morphine comes from flowers and not trees.

I didn't say that. You keep misquoting people and I don't think it's by mistake. You're acting like a troll.
my opinions of the meanings of your responses to my posts are not quotes at all.
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replied on October 26th, 2008
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I think someone needs to take a course in reading comprehension.
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replied on October 27th, 2008
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]you said a woman's choice to kill her baby with an abortion is not frivilous. and my choice to have morphine is frivolous. and that morphine comes from trees. i think a womans choice to kill her baby with an abortion is no less frivolous than my choice to have morphine. and i know morphine comes from flowers and not trees.


Are you moronic?

Morpheine is a prescription, therefore you get the choice once it is prescribed, to take it or not take it. The choice is still there but was it available? You want to buy a house but don't have money, well then, you cannot buy the house now can you, although you still have a choice.
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replied on October 27th, 2008
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phlem wrote:
]you said a woman's choice to kill her baby with an abortion is not frivilous. and my choice to have morphine is frivolous. and that morphine comes from trees. i think a womans choice to kill her baby with an abortion is no less frivolous than my choice to have morphine. and i know morphine comes from flowers and not trees.


Are you moronic?

Morpheine is a prescription, therefore you get the choice once it is prescribed, to take it or not take it. The choice is still there but was it available? You want to buy a house but don't have money, well then, you cannot buy the house now can you, although you still have a choice.
morphine is a drug not a prescription. made from a flower that is cultivated throughout southeast asia. cambodia formerly known as kampuchia who you might know of because of the millions of ton of bombs that the usa dropped on them. the next stop past vietnam. 90% of cambodia is unmapped and it is easier to get herioin there than than an abortion and not even close to being illegal. but in america morphine is only legal with a prescription which is next to impossible to get. while abortion is very easy to get and does not need a presciption either.
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Milan
replied on October 27th, 2008
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phlem wrote:
morphine is a drug not a prescription.

phlem wrote:
morphine is only legal with a prescription

Having another one of those "left brain - right brain" arguments with yourself phlem? Wink
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