Unfotunatly ya can't really ask for a read on a guy fomr other guys. We have no idea what each other wants, I could tell you what I would want but it would have no relevance to him.

I'm afraid you need to tlak to either someone close to him, or him. Other than that you have 3 options that i see. Wait it out and see what happens, cut your loses, or take a leap of faith and take action on it.

But I wouldnt take any advice from anyone claiming to know what he wants unless they know him.

I hope it works out for you.

Why can't I ask you guys..your a guy...I am trying to get in your heads....me and my g/f are trying to figure you guys out...we are at a time in our life when it's time to move on..get over it..been there, done it..now its time to settle down and stop the caca..he claims he wants what I want....

You guys are wired soo differently than us..its driving us crazy!! but thanks for your input..all is welcome

Meh do you honestly think your gonna find a male that knows another male without meeting?

We're pretty screwed up XD

Ya've got 40 year olds that still hang in clubs going for one night stands, and then there me, a 19 year old looking for a lasting relationship. We're all different and none of us are the same.

But do men really have feelings? Do they have a heart? Do they want a marriage, a family, the house, the kids, a dog, the white picket fence? Or do they just want the sex, sex and more sex?

there are some decent men out there, you just gotta be able to figure the bad ones out quick enough so you can move on and find prince charming..i wasted my time on a guy for 8 months who didn't want any part of a serious relationship..which i finally figured out but i shouldn't have wasted so much time!!! alot of times it takes men much longer to be ready to settle down unfortunately...and yes many times the "good girls" are overlooked for the trash that will put out on the first date because thats what the guys wants at that point...i guess you just have to learn to be patient and you'll find the right guy eventually

Is that an honest question?

If so, then you maybe need to reevaluate who you're surrounding yourself with. If the guys around you just want sex, and you don't, then maybe a change of scenery would be a good idea.

Meh wether those men exist is a matter of opinion.

Do they want a marriage, a family, the house, the kids, a dog, the white picket fence?

Yes I do actually and I'm only 19 years old. Except im not sure on the white picket fence, and I also want a horse.

Well, what do you think of all the lying cheating men? Would you say they have feelings or a heart?

I don't think she is saying that she surrouds herself with them types of men..I think she is trying to figure them out, like me!! and where are these men who really don't want just sex, sex, and more sex...

That can be countere dby the lying cheating women arguement, neither sex is perfect so lets not break this down to a sexist arguement and try to get BACK onto the topic.

Those men exist, I'am living proof of that.

Me and my gf broke up a few months ago, she wasnt happy and she wouldnt admit it, so in the end i had to break up with her because she wouldnt do it for herself. This girl had cheated on me a few times but i stayed with her for more than 3 years as a teenager. And it wasnt the sex because we only started having sex sometime after our 3 year anniversary, so only about 1/5th of the time we were dating were we having sex.

So yes these men Do exist, ya've just gotta be careful.

I think that is still on topic, what I'm saying is that some of the men, not all, but some of the men who do get married, don't actually want that or they wouldn't be out lying and cheating. And yes, you could also say that for lying cheating women.

Meh the human midn is screwed up. Ya've got your concious and your subconcious. They work togetehr to a certain degree. best example i can give really is a rider and a horse.

The concious mind is the rider, telling the horse what direciton its to go and giving it commands, our subconcious being the horse is the one that does the work and places his feet. Now if the rider were to try controlling the horses footing there would be problems.

Now by that what i mean is, we dont always want what we think we want. So yes some men will get married and they do want to in their minds, but their subconcious dosetn so they set about going behind ppls backs cheating and lying.

Now I'm not saying its exscusable, far form it, all i mean is that sometimes its not intentional and this is due to a lack of knowledge of our subconcious. Me? I have a healkthy relation with it which is why i'm always so sure of what i want, but i was lucky enough to start studying a subject that taught me this.


*EDIT* This is not neccisarily correct, its just my own thereoy and stuff.

I think it goes for both sexes...people dont take marriage as seriously these days, people will date 6 months and decide they're ready for marriage then a few years into the marriage when the honeymoon is over they want something new..its people in general, not just men...i think sometimes people dont think things through long term and when the man proposes maybe thats what he wanted..for the moment..thats why i always say its never good to rush into a marriage..take your time...know what you're getting when you walk down that isle...at 6 months i thought I knew everything about my boyfriend...boy was i wrong...we've been together 2 1/2 years now but its taken me a while to finally figure out exactly how he's wired haha

curlysue..what do you mean by "take it to the next level"???it seems that even though you continue to talk you've only been on 2 dates right? maybe he just wants to take things slow..that isn't a bad thing..give it more time

Thats a good point which i bvelieve was overlooked, nice one worry.

Its true,m maybe you should try increasing the amount of times you visit, rather than the currecnt "level" of your relaitonship

i know i'm posting alot..but if he were "playing" as you said and just after sex(im assuming thats what you're talking about) and you figured that many guys are..just after sex..then why would you give into him so soon? make him chase it, you cant blame a guy for TRYING..dont give in..find a genuine guy that will stick around for YOU without the physical aspect then move on to the sex when you feel like you've got a decent relationship..thats a way to weed out the bad ones..if you put yourself out there like that and do have sex early on in a relationship EXPECTING it to go somewhere then you're just setting yourself up for heartache and asking to find the wrong men haha

Very true.

Very few re;ationships last long if sex is one of the first things. Thats why I waiting so long with my ex, and the time we had together was good.

The best thing to focus on is the little things he does for you. Does he do them? Simple things like making sure ur comfortable wivout asking, covering u wiv the blanket if part of your body is cold, stroking your hair or just watching you.

Nice things XD