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very large tonsils Posted: 05-25-08 18:10pm
Hi,my first daughter is nearly 18 months
old and she has very large tonsils...they
are so large that they nearly meet in the
middle...she doesnt seem to have trouble
eating and swallowing but i have read up
on enlarged tonsils and it being related
to sleap apnea...this is where for brief
periods of time a child can stop breathing
now and again while sleeping and they
cough and choke to wake them selves up and
start breathing again.my daughter Raven
deffinetly doe do this and I'm so
frightened that she could stop breathing
and not start to breath again...i'm also
petrified of operations and would probably
need sedating myself if she had to go
through that...i have always been very
paranoid when it has come to my children
and i'm constantly scared that i will
loose them...has anyone got any advice for
me relating to Ravens enlarged
tonsils....has anyone had similar problems
with children or yourselves.JadeXXXXXX
I know that this thread isn't about
pregnancy but this is where i know alot of
you and i know you are usually very
helpfull.hope know one minds.
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kerryn
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Posted: 05-25-08 18:19pm
You could take her to the dr and see what
they have to say, the other option is an
angel baby monitor, it has sensors so that
if your child stopped breathing for a
certain length of time (30 secs i think)
an alarm goes off. That could give you
peace of mind, im getting one given to me
as a present from my relatives because
breathing difficulties run in my family,
and it is common for the young children
to stop breathing. I do think though, that
you should take your daughter to the dr
and get her checked out. if they think
they need to operate, then it will be for
the best of your daughter. Hope this
helps.
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AyaMiyaki
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Posted: 05-25-08 19:16pm
I agree that you should definitely take
her to the doctor. If she's already shown
signs of having trouble breathing, you
should have taken her then, immediately.
They might have to remove her tonsils or
there might be a medication they can give
her. Don't let this go untreated.
I'm very surprised you haven't taken her
to a doctor before now.
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Posted: 05-25-08 21:25pm
would you rather have your daughter have a
very slim chance of dieing under anastisia
or would you rather have the much greater
chance of her dieing during an apnic
episode? yes its scary, but if its gonna
keep her healthy you need to do it
and an apnea is anything over 20 seconds
just so you know kerryn, i only know
because they thought my daughter had apnea
but her spells only lasted 15 seconds at
most
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kerryn
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Posted: 05-26-08 18:18pm
ok, thanks for correcting me, at least she
got the right info. Have you taken her to
the dr yet? let us know what happens.
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pregmumof2
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Posted: 05-26-08 18:47pm
Hi,gosh I'm very scared about this...I am
ringing our doctors surgery tomorrow and
will ask for a triage nurse to ring us
back....hopefully that way they will fit
her in to be seen tomorrow.The reason I
havnt taken her to the doctors yet Aya is
because myself,my partner and my family
only noticed how large her tonsils are
yesterday evening....and as that was
sunday and today in England its been bank
holiday monday it would have been very
difficult to see our doctor... she is fit
and well and not in pain,but i am taking
her as soon as possible...ie tomorrow
morning hopefully....god you have made out
i am a bad parent...i can assure you i am
not....after bringing up 3 children
already......even though i'm paranoid
about loosing them it does not mean i do
not look after them.they come first in my
life before anything or anyone and i love
them more than anyone in the world.does
any one know what percentage the risk of
death is in operations like this if she
was to have it and how long the operation
would last....i only had two ops in my
life,the one was 22 years ago when i was
under one years old and the other 8 weeks
ago when i had my cesarian but as you
would all know you are awake for that
usually so i dont know alot about
operations,what goes on and how long they
are for this prob....thanks for advice.
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pregmumof2
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Posted: 05-26-08 18:53pm
also...........my daughters coughs in the
middle of the night might not be the
choking spells children get with this
sleep apnia dissorder...it might just be
coughs but thats why i didnt notice as
before i new about her large tonsills i
thought she genuenly just had a cough...i
dont know whats wrong yet.very frightening
though....very scared she will die.yes i'm
morbid...but if i lost her...it would kill
me...i am suffering from the dreaded post
natel deppression ,so i do get like this
even worse now.
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Posted: 05-26-08 19:12pm
pregmumof2
wrote:
Hi,gosh I'm very scared
about this...I am ringing our doctors
surgery tomorrow and will ask for a triage
nurse to ring us back....hopefully that
way they will fit her in to be seen
tomorrow.The reason I havnt taken her to the
doctors yet Aya is because myself,my
partner and my family only noticed how
large her tonsils are yesterday
evening....and as that was sunday
and today in England its been bank holiday
monday it would have been very difficult
to see our doctor... she is fit and well
and not in pain,but i am taking her as
soon as possible...ie tomorrow morning
hopefully....god you have made out i am a bad
parent...i can assure you i am
not....after bringing up 3 children
already......even though i'm paranoid
about loosing them it does not mean i do
not look after them.they come first in my
life before anything or anyone and i love
them more than anyone in the world.does
any one know what percentage the risk of
death is in operations like this if she
was to have it and how long the operation
would last....i only had two ops in my
life,the one was 22 years ago when i was
under one years old and the other 8 weeks
ago when i had my cesarian but as you
would all know you are awake for that
usually so i dont know alot about
operations,what goes on and how long they
are for this prob....thanks for
advice.
I meant I was surprised you hadn't taken
her to the doctor when you noticed she was
having trouble breathing at night. That
would have been a major red flag for
people. If you meant she was coughing at
night then I must have misunderstood your
original post. You mentioned sleep apnea
and said your daughter definitely showed
signs of this, which is why I was amazed
you hadn't taken her in to be seen yet.
And nowhere in my post did I mean to
insinuate that you're a bad mother. I was
merely surprised that you'd possibly known
about your daughter's condition and not
done anything about it for a little while.
You didn't say anything in your original
post about only noticing her tonsils the
other day, and then mentioned her sleep
apnea episodes. I was only going off what
you'd said here, and was expressing my
concern that you hadn't brought her to a
doctor before now.
If you gathered from my post that I think
you're a bad mother, I apologise. That
wasn't my intent. I hope the doctor is
able to help her quickly and efficiently.
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pregmumof2
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Posted: 05-27-08 14:58pm
right this is what happend......for along
time now my daughter has been having
little choking episodes (sort of
spluttering in her sleep) and me and my
partner put it down to her having a bad
cough.anyway we all only noticed her VERY
large tonsils last sunday night.since then
i have looked up enlarged tonsils on the
internet and read that she could possibly
have this sleep apnea condition...i have
stayed up alot of the night (that i can)
in her room while she sleeps since sunday
and realised that she wakes herself up
choking and then falls back to sleep...i
was thinking this must be due to her
enlarged tonsills....we saw our GP today
and he said even though they are very big
there is no cause for concern as yet and
they should go down as she gets older (i
am praying now like mad that this will
happen) as have been and still am really
very concerned and obviously panicing that
she will stop breathing and die.but all i
can do now is wait and keep
watching....thanks to all that gave me
advice.
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Posted: 05-28-08 22:42pm
But what did your doctor say about her
waking up choking?
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pregmumof2
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Posted: 05-29-08 18:10pm
he didnt really say anything about
that,all he did say that most children
cough and splutter in their sleep.
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kerryn
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Posted: 05-31-08 03:02am
if you are eally worried, get a baby
monitor that measures breathing and sets
off an alarm if your child stops
breathing. Theyre expensive, but worth it,
and will give you peace of mind at night
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pregmumof2
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Posted: 05-31-08 17:30pm
yeah heard of those,thanks for that
Kerryn,do you or anybody know where i
could get one from????maybe a cheaper
website or something....i will pay full
price but even better if there going for
cheaper somewhere else.
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aochriss
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Posted: 05-31-08 20:14pm
pregmumof2
wrote:
he didnt really say anything
about that,all he did say that most
children cough and splutter in their
sleep.
I didn't know that. That's terrifying.
Why are you still worried, though? Didn't
he say she doesn't have sleep apnea, and
that her waking up coughing and choking is
what most children do, as in the above
post? (Sorry to be so dense.)
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kerryn
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Posted: 06-02-08 05:27am
you could try looking on ebay or something
like that and pay postage to get it sent
over to you...thats what id do...or you
could ask a coupla rellies to put in for
one, my grandma and aunty are going halves
in one for me as an early xmas present.
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pregmumof2
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Posted: 06-02-08 18:25pm
the reason i'm still worried about this
Aochriss is because i still feel and
believe that she is suffering from sleep
apnea,even though the doctor said he didnt
think so....im a paranoid person at the
best of times and as she has all the
symptoms of sleep
apnea......ie,choking/coughing
/spluttering in her sleep,loud
snoring,tirerdness in the day and of
course the very large tonsills i just
think she does have it.i'm very concerend
and i feel i should perhaps get a second
opinion.also something that has been
bothering is when she eating i'm terrified
that because of her tonsills nearly
meeting what if the food wasnt to go down
properly,surely she could get a build up
of food and this could cause severe
choking??????very concerend about
this,ihave a phobiaof choking as it is.
