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If a doctor does a vaginal ultrasound and is looking for a baby in the uterus, could he miss a developing baby OUTSIDE of the uterus (not in the fallopian tubes)?
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replied August 9th, 2009
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are you actually pregnant?
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replied August 9th, 2009
Yes, an ectopic pregnancy could definately be missed by an ultrasound. But within a few weeks of conception, you would normally have a great deal of pain and most likely, bleeding. If this is the case, make sure to go to the emergency room, as it is life-threatening. The main risk factor for ectopic pregnancy would be previous history of STDs, as they scar the fallopian tubes and don't allow the fertilized egg to make it to the uterus. Extrauterine and abdominal pregnancies can occur, but are rare.
Jen T., Certified Childbirth Educator, Labor Assistant, & RN student
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replied August 9th, 2009
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Honestly...I don't know if I'm pregnant or not. I FEEL pregnant...I've given birth to two BEAUTIFUL girls...but all the HPTs come back negative...and my blood test came back negative at 5-8 weeks. (My cousin, however, was pregnant and didn't have a blood test come back positive until she was around 12-13 weeks.)

I'm more concerned that this might be an extrauterine pregnancy. And am wondering...if so...can an extrauterine pregnancy go full term...or almost full term?

I'm slightly overweight, and wouldn't have thought anything of it...except that I've had a consistant weight until just recently where I gained 8 lb in a 2-3 week time frame. My periods have gone from CONSISTANTLY 4-7 days down to 2-3 days...and last month...2 days and then NOTHING. And at would be considered 34 weeks if I were pregnant, I was measuring 34 cm from top of belly to pubic bone...and now 3 weeks later...am almost 37cm. Coincidence???
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replied August 9th, 2009
When did you have an US. If it was recently the US would almost definetely show up. The US is usually of the whole abdomen..not just the uterus.
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replied August 10th, 2009
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I had it done about 3 weeks ago. However, it was an in-house US, and he only looked for the uterus. He didn't do a real exam either--no hands on belly, etc--assuming I wasn't pregnant, cuz how he put it "you don't LOOK pregnant"--no matter the instant weight gain and all the other symptoms I told him about. He pretty much assumed it was all in my head...and what he said was a small uterus was empty. He could've been looking at my bladder for all I know. I could swear I saw something that looked like a spine...and too small to be mine. But was likely NOT inside the uterus. He moved too quickly with the wand for me to know for sure. I'd be more at peace about this if I felt confident in his US competency--which I do not. I feel like I'm crazy for even thinking I MIGHT be pregnant, but I've been pregnant twice before...and it's a very similar feeling.
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replied August 12th, 2009
if the baby is outside of the uterus, can it still be detected by a pregnancy test?
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replied August 12th, 2009
yes, the HCG would be in the serum test. Abdominal pregnancies have a placenta that attatch themselves to some abdominal structure, usually the surface of the uterus, broad ligaments, or the ovaries. But it can be any abdominal structure like the spleen, liver or intestines.Because the invading trophoblastic tissue is not held in check, it can erode major blood vessles at any time and cause severe bleeding. Fetal movements are also very painful because they are not cushioned by the myometrium.
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replied August 12th, 2009
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Could you have a negative urine test but a positive blood test in that case?
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replied October 9th, 2009
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Hi Smilemama.. do you have an update as I have smiller situation and would like to know whats going on.
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replied October 13th, 2009
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After a gajillion tests--including transvaginal ultrasound and CScan--they did not find anything. Several ovarian and cervical cysts...but no tumor, no growths, no ectopic pregnancy...nothing. I even started lactating. Prolactin test came back normal. At what would've been 42 weeks, I had another period. Appeared to pass a golfball size clot...and within 2-4 weeks started losing the weight. I maxed at 153.5 lbs...and am back down to 147 or less (haven't been on scale recently). Last I checked, belly went from 42 cm down to 31 cm. It's all so VERRRY strange...and still no answers why. Only thing that makes sense, is if the antidepressents I was taking screwed up my pituitary--which is really likely! Best wishes in figuring your situation out zenjmia. NOT FUN going through and having no answers!!!!! Just know you are not alone...and it could be happening just cuz our bodies are so complex. Hang in there! I know that's MUUUCH easier said that done!
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replied December 18th, 2009
I have to say you have seriously made me so much more at ease as I have been having so many symptoms that would represent pregnancy they tell me I am not. I have gained a little weight where this has never been an issue for me in the past and I am pretty small. I have swore breasts and even started to lactate. I too have had so many blood test all come back normal including prolactin test. I swear I feel this movement in my stomach right above my belly button every once in a while and I would say it would be gas but doesn't feel like any gas I have ever felt. I feel like I am going crazy because everyone keeps telling me I am fine...But I know something is just not right
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replied January 3rd, 2010
Yes It can happen I am going through the same thing i say it has to be an abdominal pregnancy because the dotors did an ultrasound and i seen the black whole My self..empty with no fetus now I am due to Be 20 weeks on the 5th of Jan..It hurt Me so bad to here again after all the years of wanting a baby that i wasnt preg.. On the way Home with tears rolling down my check my mom asked did i need somthing for depression.I told her no pills in the world could make the feeling go away.. That was when i was 18 weeks.Later that nite was the first time i felt a real jab from my little one.and jus the other day a kick hard enough to rattle my Whole stomak rite befor my eyes. Iam a very small woman 23 years 5'5 115 pound people say i dont look a day over twelve But they notice my stomak and ask me if im preg..even people i have known since grade school.Miricles Do happen
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replied February 5th, 2010
The doctor says im pregnant but can find the baby on my uterus and says that it might be out side my uterus.is my baby gonna be okay??im scared that i might lose my baby i dont even know how many weeks i am,i just got my blood done and gonna find out on thursday and im nervous to know whats gonna happen.Im kinda hoping that the baby is days and it was to small to see it,can that be possible??plz help
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replied February 5th, 2010
I bearly found out that i'm pregnant on thursday the 4 of febuary,and the doctor couldn't find the baby..is it possible that im to early???He say'd that the baby is outside the uterus,maybe in my tubes but he couldn't find the baby their,he tolled me to come back next thursday, but i can wait,and my friend tolled me if the baby is born outside my uterus and in my tubes that the baby wont live..Can it be possible that i can be days in my pregnancy and its just that the baby cant be seen in the ultra sound..please write back as soon as possible i'm stressing to much and cant stop crying, cause i don't know how to save my baby..
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replied April 12th, 2010
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i am going threw something similar i missed my period around 4 Jan this year n haven''t had one since whats it now April 13 i had 4 hpt s come back positive in Jan this year n went for ultrasound yesterday n they said there is no sign of a baby no sack nothing the lady only checked my uterus if it even was that i swear out of the blue i have felt it kick n my belly is getting huge my back n boobs r killing when i got home took 3 more tests n they came back positive the lines came up in seconds really dark n it cant b a phantom preg coz i wasn''t trying 4 baby it was a surprise i was surprisingly so happy about it but now just devastated there might not b a baby i have researched a lot on this n all the reasons a preg test can show a false positive result don''t match my symptoms there is not really helpful info out there if u did have a ultrasound miss ur baby please please let us know here because there is no other helpful info out there for people like us
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replied March 20th, 2012
I can relate 2 wut u r going thru I went 2 day which is my 12 weeks n As I was getting an ultrasound she told me she sees nuffin talk about devastated they told me I could misscarried but how I never had any bleeding or pains everything has been da same. N dis is my third pregnancy n I didn't even know I was pregnant it was a total surprise 4 me 2. She only checked my uterus as well n nuffin else kinda strange they r watching my hcg levels 2 see wuts wut. Hopefully dis will cum good 4 da both of us cuz I sure do need sum answers as well... god bless
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replied June 24th, 2010
Abdominal Pregnancy, Tubes Tied, Tubes Untied, Short tube,
Hello everyone,

I am 31 years old and have 2 kids already. In 2005 I had my tubes tied under the pressure of my family. I regreted it and had them untied Feb 2007. We had a condom break and I became intantly pregnat! It was in my tube. My poor baby is in heaven right now as of april 2007. My left tube which was only 2.5 cm (adverage is 14 to 7 cm) was removed. And the right side to my understanding wasn't repaired, because it had only 1 cm left.

Now comes to my problem. I am ALWAYS regular. Every 25 days. No stress or anything causes me to be late. My last period was March 6th, and I spotted a little a few weeks later. I have been vomiting for 5 weeks, my breasts are huge and very tinder, with bumps and blue veigns on them. I usualy smoke but I can't even think about it now. I my fav drink use to be Dr. Pepper sinse I was 7 years old. Now the sight of it makes me sick.

Then last week I started feeling little gas bubbles that hit back when you push on them. Never had gas like that before! I should be 16 weeks pregnant IF I am and past the point of tubal pregnancy.

I guess what I would like to know is has anyone else had this happen?
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replied June 27th, 2010
Update......

I was indeed pregnant. Night before last I was sitting in my recliner and felt a horriable pain, my stomache cramped up and it was killing me! I went to the bathroom hoping it was gas and maybe I had to go have a bowell movement.

No there was blood everywhere! I started crying because I knew what was happening. My baby was dying..... so I woke up my husband and asked him to go to the hospitial with me. He took me and in the waiting room the strangest thing happened. The "baby" was kicking and moving around. I put my husbands hand on my belly above my belly button......and the movement went crazy!! It kept on for the full 4 hours I was there.

I told the doctor that this was happening and she ordered a seruim and hcg count. (dont ask why idk why they needed both) My hormones were so low I miscarried.

She also ordered an u/s to see if it was ectopic as well. The tech started to do the outside u/s and only put it on top of my bikini line no higher up. She couldnt see anything. (I'm a large person) then she done the vaginal u/s and found that my uterus was larger than usual but no baby. The whole time I'm feeling these lil "kicks" I tell her she resonds with hmmm....really?

Then I see the doc again and she tells me that my baby is gone. And said they DID repair my tube on the right side (YAY) and I needed to schedule an appointment for a DNC.

So I am heart broken, sad, happy, and confused all at the same time. Why am I feeling these "kicks"? I asked her and she said that she basically thought it was in my head. I told her it was higher than where the outside u/s was placed and she told me to tell my OBGYN about it.

I have accepted that my baby is in God's arms. I understand that it wasn't ment to be. Am I sad? Yes! Do I cry everytime I go to the bathroom? Yes! Am I crazy? I'm begining to wonder....because I am sitting here and that movement is still happening.

I know it isnt me trying to deny that this is happening. Because I understand that not anyone, not even little precious babies, not me, not anyone is promised tomorrow....
So why is this movement here?

I know God allows things to happen for may diffrent things. And I think maybe this baby was only loaned to me for a while. I am greatful he showed me the positive in this tragety. I will update again after seeing my OB.

Good luck ladies!
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replied July 4th, 2010
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MissQuestions, your story struck a cord. Experiencing something similar with the kicking. Got pregnant early Nov 2009 and I knew because my body felt alien but so alien I knew something was wrong.

6 weeks and 8 tests later, got the faintest positive and miscarried the day after on 19th Dec. US on Christmas eve conirmed it but the day before, I had begun experiencing pain on my left side. I January, I was given methotrexate for an ectopic and HCG went down to 1. Then things got interesting.

In March, the pain returned on my left side with unbelievable shoulder pain. I have become lactose intolerant and suffered swollen feet, loss of appetite, heartburn, back pain, leaky breasts and what feels like kicking. I saw my upper abdomen jump out about an inch once and feel movement across my upper abdomen. Sometimes, it feels like my stomach is being kicked.

Pregnancy tests are negative and U/S last week confirmed nothing in uterus. However, I have gained 13lbs in the last three months even though I am a dress size smaller. I still have my periods every 21-26 days.

I am at a complete loss - is the baby too high up in my abdomen or is it some kind of molar mass? I am going back to see my Doctor and will request an MRI this time. I hope you get some answers soon.
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replied August 7th, 2012
Hi, I have been preg b4 and know find myself going through the same. wa did you find out I FEE LKE I'm GOING CRAZY
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replied July 4th, 2010
Overthink,

I had my DNC and they couldn't find anything left (whatever that means) and I think I know why. The bleeding I had was (sorry for the tmi) black stringy at times with huge clots that had water in them.

I had an ectpoic before and NEVER experanced this kind of bleeding. I still felt the "kicks" until I had the DNC. I'm not sure if my mind was playing tricks on me or not, but I do know it wasn't possiable for me to be pregnant in the first place but....... it happened.

Have you had any children before? Were you trying to get pregnant? Just wondering because in my case the doctors kept telling me I was feeling the "kicks" because I wanted to be pregnant. I argued with them because at the time I got pregnant I had stopped trying forever ago, and given up on another child.

If your doctor won't order a MRI ask for a CT scan, that will show the baby if there is one. The CT scan is less expencive than the MRI and docs seem happier to issue them out. Besides I found that I have been treated like a "crazy woman" because of the improbility of the symptoms I have had. Meaning they will probaly treat you the same way and try to keep you from running up a high bill that they think is senseless. (I believe you totally! But they may not!) Now the CT scan has radiation (that can be harmful to the baby) but the MRI uses maginets. So bring that up with your doctor too. Also I found that they listen to me more when I told them I knew my own body........dont know if any of this will help but it couldn't hurt to try:)

After reading EVERYTHING I can on the movement I've felt before now I couldn't find anyone else that have had the same happen. I appreciate you sharing your story and PLEASE keep me up dated!

The doc told us if we wanted to "try" again (as if I was trying the first time) we would have a better chance this time because of the DNC but I have mixed feelings. I miss being pregnant and miss the idea of the lil guy/girl moving inside of me, but before I had made up my mind. I'm not sure what to do.

My youngest is 6 and my oldest is 16, and I feel like I want another one. My husband doesn't have any of his own and the last 2 of our babies have died so we are really scared.........

So keep me updated and I will do the same for you!!! Good luck hun and thanks so much!
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