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i am 33 and had my total hip over 2 years ago, i have had hip/groin/back/knee/thigh pain ever since, i go to the gym at least 3 times a week and walk my dogs everyday, plus all the other walking about i do in my job. I have seen my surgeon several times about the pain i have had steroid injections which have done nothing. I am going out of my mind i currently have severe pain in my back, hip, groin and front tip of the pelvis have had to start taking pain killers again. not sure whether to see my doc or just grin and bare it and see if it settles.
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replied June 22nd, 2011
reply to pixie 51 posted 6/1/2011
You are too young to just suck this up. If I were in your shoes, I would back off a little bit on the gym, can you go no more than 3x/week, just until you see a MD who is compassionate and willing to explore what could be going on? You have to get a second opinion from another surgeon who has done A LOT of hip replacement surgeries. Where do you live? In the US or Canada? Are you near Duke University, Boston, nyc, The Cleveland or Mayo clinics? Also, acupuncture has worked for me in reducing the narcotic use because my level of pain is much more tolerable from this alternative therapy. This being said with going to an acupuncturist, see a medical doctor such as a DO who does these procedures. It appears from my experience that the needles should not be inserted near/around the joint that has been replaced.
Tell my about your hip pain, is it deep in the joint or is it on the side of the hip? Your back may hurt because of your hip/pelvis/groin pain and you are favoring the replaced hip and your posture and walk are not aligned, just a thought.
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replied June 24th, 2011
Octotillo

Thank you for the reply, I am currently serving in the British Armed Forces, although due to this THR I will medically discharged in 2012. Resting does not make much difference because I still do alot of walking etc although no impact PT. It is annoying as before my resurfacing (that was my original op that went a tad wrong resulting in the total hip, ceramic on ceramic none cemented)I am starting to wonder if its because my other hip is causing me some problems at the moment which I have been referred to see my surgeon for.
The pain is very much in the hip joint, with groin pain, it is very uncomfortable and painful. Sometimes I get a squelching type feeling within the joint itself. The back pain is lower left (the side of the hip replacement) I am 60kg at 164cm so no weight issue at all. I have the hip for 2years 7 months.

I feel so old typing this Smile sound like a 60 year old not a 33 year old.
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replied June 24th, 2011
Octotillo

Thank you for the reply, I am currently serving in the British Armed Forces, although due to this THR I will medically discharged in 2012. Resting does not make much difference because I still do alot of walking etc although no impact PT. It is annoying as before my resurfacing (that was my original op that went a tad wrong resulting in the total hip, ceramic on ceramic none cemented)I am starting to wonder if its because my other hip is causing me some problems at the moment which I have been referred to see my surgeon for.
The pain is very much in the hip joint, with groin pain, it is very uncomfortable and painful. Sometimes I get a squelching type feeling within the joint itself. The back pain is lower left (the side of the hip replacement) I am 60kg at 164cm so no weight issue at all. I have the hip for 2years 7 months.

I feel so old typing this Smile sound like a 60 year old not a 33 year old.
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replied June 25th, 2011
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pixie51,

May I ask as to why the first hip resurfacing was done? Was it because of an inflammatory process that had damaged the joint significantly, severe trauma, or the residuals of a congenital/developmental problem?

If it was due to an inflammatory process, you have to remember that replacing the bones does not change the inflammation of the synovial lining of the joint. So, you can get pain from the continuing process.


A big problem in total joint arthroplasties is that of an indolent infection. Any joint, that has been placed correctly and doesn't have alignment or fixation problems, but continues to have pain, should be evaluated for infection. Many times a deep Staph epi infection will have little, if any, systemic symptoms, such as fevers or chills. Just the chronic pain.


You should see your surgeon, because the main reason that a THR is done is for pain control. To have continuing pain sort of makes the surgery a waste. And, as ocotillo stated, you are too young to just deal with the pain. This hip has to last as long as possible. You are looking forward to at least one more total hip surgery in your life, because they only last about 15 to 20 years (if taken good care of). Which is why orthopedic surgeons advise patients to wait as long as possible before having the joint replaced.

Again, see your surgeon and ask for a determination as to the cause of this pain. You should not be in such pain. Good luck.





P.S. -->The "squelching type feeling within the joint itself" or squeaking is a common complain of patients who have a ceramic prosthesis. The following is an article from the AAOS (American Academy of Orthopedic Surgeons) on the topic:

WHAT’S MAKING the NOISE in SQUEAKY HIPS?

By Mary Ann Porucznik

You might expect a squeak or two from a new pair of shoes, but from a new total hip? At the recent fall meeting of the American Association of Hip and Knee Surgeons (AAHKS), attendees watched—and heard—videos of patients who had received ceramic-on-ceramic (COC) total hip arthroplasties (THA). As the patients walked, climbed stairs or sat, a distinct squeaking sound emanated from their hips.

The videos were presented along with two separate studies—one prospective, the other case-controlled—reporting on this unusual phenomenon.

An underreported phenomenon

Christopher A. Jarrett, MD, reported on a prospective study involving 143 patients (159 COC THAs), 10 of whom (7 percent) experienced squeaking. An additional 31 patients (20 percent) reported that their new hips made noises other than squeaks. Although there were no reports of squeaking in the control group of 48 patients (60 THAs) who received metal-on-polyethylene implants, patients reported other noises in two cases (4 percent).

Patients could reproduce the squeaking during mid-range motion while load bearing, as in a simulated stair climb. No patient associated any pain with the squeaking, and average Hip Society Scores (HSS) increased from 19.8 preoperatively to 38.4 postoperatively.

“Only one of the squeakers in our series complained about the noise,” reported Dr. Jarrett. “We found the others by polling out patients. Our radiographic analysis found no correlation between cup position and squeaking, nor between anteversion and squeaking.

“In the entire series, there has been only one revision—for recurrent dislocation—in a patient who happened to be a ‘squeaker,’” he continued. “One other squeaker is considering revision, because he squeaks with every step, which is having a negative effect on his quality of life.”

The study involved three surgeons and all surgeries were performed between March 2003 and May 2005. The squeaking hip is a peculiar phenomenon unique to hard-on-hard bearing services. The immediate and long-term implications of squeaking and noises have yet to be studied fully. The discussion following the presentation focused on the possibility that technical problems, including microseparation or component malpositioning, could be the reason for the squeaking hips.

The result of component malpositioning?

The second study, presented immediately afterward, addressed the issue of component malpositioning as a potential cause for squeaking in COC THAs. This case-controlled study matched 30 patients who had squeaking COC THAs in a one-to-two ratio with patients whose COC THAs did not squeak. Matching criteria included age, gender, body mass index, surgeon, date of surgery, prosthesis type, femoral head size, and acetabular liner size.

Richard H. Rothman, MD, and his colleagues performed radiographic evaluations to determine the position of the acetabular component. In addition, a computed tomography (CT) scan was used to assess component positioning in the patients who had squeaking COC THAs. No such assessment was performed for the control group, due to ethical and cost considerations.

The radiographic evaluation found no statistically significant difference in the mean club inclination (p = 0.27) or in cup version (p = 0.69) between squeaky and quiet hips. The mean values for cup version and inclination obtained with the CT scan did not significantly differ from the radiographic measurements, verifying the accuracy of the software used to perform the evaluation,

In the discussion afterward, the researchers reported that the total incidence of squeaking hips at their institution was 2.7 percent (30 of 1,056 COC THAs) from 2002 to 2005. During the first year, the incidence of squeaking hips was 1 percent (1 of 99); the incidence increased to 3 percent (13 of 388) the following year, and dropped slightly (16 of 567) in the third year. Among patients who had bilateral COC THAs, five experienced squeaking on one side, and two had squeaking in both hips.

“The main etiology of squeaking COC THAs remains elusive,” said Dr. Rothman. “Although component malpositioning and impingement could potentially be an important contributing factor, the latter cannot be the sole reason for noisy ceramic hips based on the findings of this study. Further investigations to elucidate the etiology of this undesirable complication are warranted.”

“The Squeaking Hip: An underreported phenomenon of ceramic-on-ceramic total hip arthroplasty” by Christopher A. Jarrett, MD; Amar S. Ranawat, MD; Matteo Bruzzone, MD; Jose Rodrigues, MD, and Chitranjan Ranawat, MD

“Noisy Ceramic Hips: Is component malpositioning the problem?” by Camilo Restrepo, MD; Javard Parvizi, MD; James Purtill, MD; Peter Sharkey, MD; William Hozack, MD; and Richard H. Rothman, MD

Presented at the 16th annual AAHKS fall meeting, Nov. 3 – 5, 2006. The paper presenters reported no conflicts of interest. Jan/Feb 2007 AAOS Now
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replied October 24th, 2012
Hi all sorry I have not got back in contact but a month after I wrote the above ask I found out I was pregnant ! Something I was told I couldn't do, I now have a healthy 8 month old daughter, my other hip has now been scanned and I have a tear and some bone growth on my other hip so having surgery in the new year to sort this out, my surgeon is hoping that this is why my other side is hurting, a bit of a knock on effect however if it doesn't solve it he will investigate the other hip. I am still in the forces , just, but am waiting on my discharge date now as I am unable to deploy.
Hope your all well and Gaelic thank you I found that an interesting read, I will just be squelchy haha. Xx
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replied October 24th, 2012
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pixie51,

Congratulations on your unexpected surprise.

Hope the surgery takes care of your new problem.

Good luck, try not to squeak too much, lol.
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