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ChestRockwell

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spinal fusion surgery and Problem With Pm Doctor ..
Posted: 07-09-07 08:06am

Ok the story is I'm 19 yrs. old and a little over a month ago I had a spinal fusion surgery, where my discs were completely removed and replaced. A few weeks after my doctor told me to go see a PM doctor, so I did.

As a person, my PM was a nice enough guy, although I didn't like the way I was treated there. When I say that I mean whenever I would call in for a refill on my pain medication, I would be told I could not receive it unless I made an appointment. As a result I would have to be in there every other week. The last time I saw him was this passing saturday. However, the last time I saw him before saturday I was given a urine test. When I asked why, the nurse specifically told me it was just to make sure I was taking my medicine correctly, so I said ok.

Well, on saturday, when he finally comes into the room to see me, he goes "Well one of the main reasons you are here is that you tested positive for THC." My jaw dropped to the ground. I will flat out admit that I am an occasional user, although I have actually used it more frequently than normal after my surgery for reasons I will soon discuss. I was never once told I would be drug tested in such a manner, nor was I ever drug tested in the past( i have had 2 other back surgeries in the last 2 years). My main reason for usage of the drug was when I would run out of my pain meds and would not be able to get into see the PM for several days, the marijuana would help ease the pain and also would ease the slight withdrawal symptoms I would feel.

So he tells me that he cannot give me anymore refills until I pass a drug test, and said if I knew I would not be clean on that very day, I would have to come in within 7 days and take one or I would be dropped from their practice. This just flat out shocked me. I am not a heavy drug user and if I had known I would be tested for it, I simply would of never used it. The problem is not stopping the drug, the problem is that I know that it takes a month to get this out of your system, and I won't be clean within the time limit I was given. I know I made a mistake in using the drug, but I would figure they would at least cut me some slack and give me the maximum amount of time it takes to leave your system before making me take another test. Especially since my surgeon tells me it will be 1-2 months until I am recovered, I can't be without pain medication.

Now this morning I was able to get ahold of my doctor(the one who did the surgery) and he agreed to give me a refill of pain medication. I told him that going to the PM every other week in addition to physical therapy was too expensive, so I said I was going to stop the PM until I finished therapy, and the doc said ok, which is actually partly true, but I wasn't about to tell him I failed a drug test, I didn't want to be seen as a druggy. Apparently, the PM said nothing to him about what happened, and I would think if he did it would be a violation of my privacy right? However, I know eventually my doctor will ask me to go back to PM and there is no point in going back to my current PM doc because I will be dropped by the practice if I fail the drug test or they will not let me come back if I wait until after the time limit they set is over.

So I guess my question is, would the best move just be to find another PM doctor? If I did, would my old PM be allowed to tell him about my failed drug test? Or, as I said, would that be a violation of privacy? I am not going to smoke anymore just in case the new PM doctor decides to test me , but I just want to make sure this past incident isn't going to prevent me from getting pain medication refills from other PM doctors. Since I am nowhere near being out of the woods yet from this surgery and will need pain medication in the weeks to come. Any advice would be appreciated.
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Posted: 07-16-07 13:36pm

Well, it is not a violation of your privacy to inform the referring doctor of your test results because it falls under "Continuity of care". You can, however, go to their office and give them written instructions not to give your medical information out to anyone. I am not sure how they will react to this request, as they may still insist on sending the info to your referring doctor.

I am sorrry that the flipped out over a little bit of MJ. Is it legal in Illinois to have medical MJ? I don't think it is, and for that I am sooo sorry. It really can help with the pain and it is a great treatment modality, in my opinion, because it is cost effective and has few side effects. I am surpriosed that your PM doctor did not ask you to sign a narcotics contract indicating that they do random testing etc.. I would advise you to tell the next doctor up front what you are taking, and they may or maay not have a problem with that.

I am so sorry for the quandry you are caught in. Medical care is so expensive, and they are asking a lot of you to have an actual visit every 10 days, in addition to your PT. I think you could feasibly expect your surgeon's office to continue to provide your pain meds for at least the first three months following surgery. You might check on their office policy rearding pain meds as well.

Good luck.
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tippy1124

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Posted: 08-08-07 07:55am

I just wanted to say that I know what you're going through. I had spinal fusion surgery almost a year ago and I'm still seeing a pain management doctor. I take Oxycontin and Flexeril 3x a day every day for the pain. My pain management doctor is a really nice guy, but the nurses that work in his office are real health forum, especially when it comes time for my refills. I was told to call 5 days in advance for my refills, so I won't run out before they can call me in, but even doing that, it takes them forever to call you to come pick up your refills. I have run out on more than one occasion because of this and just like you I am required to take random urine tests. I'm not sure exactly what medications they have you on, but I will tell you this...The first time I went through withdrawals, I thought I was going to die and I was terrified that if I took anything else, I would fail my urine test and be ejected from the PM. I talked to my regular doctor about it and he told me flat out that when I'm having Oxycontin withdrawals that I can take anything with oxycodone or hydrocodone in it, such as Percocet, Vicodin, etc and it would not register in my urine test. I was skeptical, but I was going through extremely bad withdrawals, so I tried it and it worked. Like I said, I'm not sure what you're taking, but I thought this information might help you a little.
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