Ya know what I just thought of? A long
time ago after the discovery of lsd, the
officials of psychiatry took the drug and
experimented on mentally ill people with
it. Imagine that, a schizophrenic on lsd,
that's insane, did they just not know what
they were doing, they couldn't have
honestly believed that it may have been of
some use.
Has anybody read anything on this subject,
any light that you are willing to shed
would be much appreciated.
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ONDERDONK
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Wasn't Actually Such a Bad Idea Posted: 07-09-07 17:27pm
i don't remember hearing that they gave it
to people suffering from sz. that might
not make too much sense. but for people
with simple depression, or alchoholism,
this was a miracle drug. though illegal
now, lsd is available in the college
years, and i remember reading, when i
studied everything i could about all
hallucinogens, that 70% of alchoholics are
instantly cured when they take one hit of
lsd. for people who are depressed, stuck
in their reality, lsd as a cure was the
idea of offering 'madness', temporarily,
for the same reason we naturally mad
people use madness - to overcome some
obstacle. it strikes me that magic, (and
lsd as a temporary form of magic) is the
difference between mankind in his reason
and mankind in his perfection. mankind is
still a relatively young and naiive
species, who fell down the 'hole of human
knowledge', and continue to drag their
kids down. as a shaman, i've been taught
how to climb back up and out, where i can
hang out with the spirits and the trees
and the two-year olds and the
schizophrenics and the shamans.... i think
mankind will eventually grow up, put away
his toys in a box ("reason"), and come out
of his hole and go to work in the world of
mystery and wonder, and re-join the rest
of his comrades. till then, the commrades
are stuck inthe zoo.
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Tiggy333
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 25 Sep 2007 Posts: 7
Sigh Posted: 10-02-07 14:46pm
Look up MKUltra in any internet search
engine. Wikipedia does a fairly good basic
article on it.
Then check out former army chemical corps.
chemist Frank Olson - read his story.
Oh, and do a search on Dr. Ewen Cameron
and see what you come up with.
I can't speak for alcoholics or
hallucinogenic drug users around the
world, but I can say with confidence that
the people who were involved in the
testing of LSD as a means to aid in
interrogation or "treat" mental illness
did NOT find it therapeutic or eye opening
at all.
It wasn't spiritual for these people - it
was horrific.
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redeme
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 22 Aug 2007 Posts: 71 Location: australia
Posted: 10-11-07 12:45pm
its true these experiments were real. i
must say though ive had lsd trips whilst i
had schizoprenic symptoms. i hadnt been
diagnosed at the time but i had a few
really good trips.. although when i
startin to feel bad i really really really
lost it. sz. people should not be given
LSD anytime.
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mrsbuzski
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 15 Jun 2007 Posts: 103 Location: U.S.A. -- Illinois
Wow Posted: 10-11-07 13:01pm
I feel I have already been there without
anything!!!! But, reading your posts I
feel like a LSD trip could and possibly
would kill me!
