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Q: Schizophrenia and LSD
asked by: HappyHappy on July 8th, 2007
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Ya know what I just thought of? A long time ago after the discovery of lsd, the officials of psychiatry took the drug and experimented on mentally ill people with it. Imagine that, a schizophrenic on lsd, that's insane, did they just not know what they were doing, they couldn't have honestly believed that it may have been of some use.

Has anybody read anything on this subject, any light that you are willing to shed would be much appreciated.
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ONDERDONK
replied on July 9th, 2007
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Wasn't Actually Such a Bad Idea
i don't remember hearing that they gave it to people suffering from sz. that might not make too much sense. but for people with simple depression, or alchoholism, this was a miracle drug. though illegal now, lsd is available in the college years, and i remember reading, when i studied everything i could about all hallucinogens, that 70% of alchoholics are instantly cured when they take one hit of lsd. for people who are depressed, stuck in their reality, lsd as a cure was the idea of offering 'madness', temporarily, for the same reason we naturally mad people use madness - to overcome some obstacle. it strikes me that magic, (and lsd as a temporary form of magic) is the difference between mankind in his reason and mankind in his perfection. mankind is still a relatively young and naiive species, who fell down the 'hole of human knowledge', and continue to drag their kids down. as a shaman, i've been taught how to climb back up and out, where i can hang out with the spirits and the trees and the two-year olds and the schizophrenics and the shamans.... i think mankind will eventually grow up, put away his toys in a box ("reason"), and come out of his hole and go to work in the world of mystery and wonder, and re-join the rest of his comrades. till then, the commrades are stuck inthe zoo.
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Tiggy333
replied on October 2nd, 2007
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Look up MKUltra in any internet search engine. Wikipedia does a fairly good basic article on it.

Then check out former army chemical corps. chemist Frank Olson - read his story.

Oh, and do a search on Dr. Ewen Cameron and see what you come up with.

I can't speak for alcoholics or hallucinogenic drug users around the world, but I can say with confidence that the people who were involved in the testing of LSD as a means to aid in interrogation or "treat" mental illness did NOT find it therapeutic or eye opening at all.

It wasn't spiritual for these people - it was horrific.
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redeme
replied on October 11th, 2007
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its true these experiments were real. i must say though ive had lsd trips whilst i had schizoprenic symptoms. i hadnt been diagnosed at the time but i had a few really good trips.. although when i startin to feel bad i really really really lost it. sz. people should not be given LSD anytime.
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mrsbuzski
replied on October 11th, 2007
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I feel I have already been there without anything!!!! But, reading your posts I feel like a LSD trip could and possibly would kill me!
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zmale
replied on April 23rd, 2009
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Treatment of Childhood Schizophrenia Utilizing LSD and Psilocybi
Jeannie

Jeannie was a girl who, when initially seen, lived in a totally encapsulated world. Her behavior consisted of hyperactive twirling, yelling a meaningless "word-salad," screaming, and violent attacks towards anyone who came within her personal space. She would work herself up into such manic frenzy that she would collapse in physical exhaustion. During her treatment course with psychedelic therapy Jeannie experienced a number of transcendental phenomena which established the core recovery from her psychosis.

In spite of being blind, burdened with congenital dislocation of hips and knees and raised by a completely psychotic mother, this girl overcame horrendous madness in a devastatingly sterile and chaotic environment of a state hospital ward, to become one of the most tender, loving, compassionate and courageous persons the author has ever known. If Jeannie had had the opportunity to continue her sessions in a benign, safe and nurturing environment, she would have become a functionally superior human being. Our experience with this one girl was all the proof that was needed to attest to the dramatic usefulness of psychedelic drugs in treating the most seemingly intractable psychotic states.

It is most noteworthy to report that at least four of the children had identifiable transcendental experiences and were capable of communicating such experiences to us. It may be that some of the other children had similar experiences but were unable to communicate to us. However, given the age and degree of psychopathology of these children we were amazed that these spiritual experiences occurred.

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