world i think all illegal immigrants need to be shipped back to where ever they are from. that dont mean my kids are not gonna be respectful and considerate.i not gonna push my views on my kids.

I know many people feel that way, and I can understand that viewpoint, but I don't understand why "they" (along with people w/o insurance) should be turned away from getting medical treatment at a hospital. I guess if you're a self proclaimed "trophy wife" with money they should put people out of their beds for you.

i do think illegal immigrants should be turned away from getting medical treatment. maybe than they will go back to where they came from.

but people who are allowed to be in the united states should not be turned away from getting medical treatment just cause they dont have insurance.

thats not what anyone said or even implied
ok heres how it is in california and texas

basiaclly theyve taken over
not all of them. im not saying all mexicans are bad and dont work and live off government money
but literaly
you cant get a job here anymore
but theres mexican iiligals driving brand new huge trucks. and they use up all of our medicaed and welfare and they lie. most of them lie and have 5 kids and 3 fammilies in the same crowded 3 bedroom house
and its not fair when it gets this bad

now you know how the native people felt 500 years ago lol

ha ha yeah we did kindof do the same thing!
i think its an ngoing thing though
it cant be stopped
what goes around comes around and because of what our ancestors did we gotta pay
lol

Now you people know how every single american race felt when they came over. The germans, the irish, every single ethnicity that came to america was treated in the same crummy way you're treating these people.

Personally, there shouldn't be borders. People should be able to go where the money and the care is. Why should anyone be forced to live somewhere they are going to die or have a bad life? No one should be forced to live somewhere like that.

disagree

lol

i think borders prevent spread of disease (yes more about germs i know)
it would be too hectic if everyone could come and go

if there were no borders how could we keep terrorists away? keep track and prevent drugs from crossing over?
keep a murderer from running from country to country while he has a warrant for him?

borders dont just hold all the people back from spilling into everywhere
when you think about it they have alot of purpose

split from another topic. you are allowed to state you opinion but no name calling, racist abuse or general nastiness. if we stick to the rules we can all have our say the nice way

If there weren't borders, there would be no nations for the terrorists to hate.

I think cities can be far more effective at controlling drug trafficking than a nation can. Secondly, you could still have "states". I think a state system would work far better than countries.

Countries encourage ethnocentricity, which causes superiority and hate.

If the whole world gave a damn, they could all pitch in to catch a killer.

If you think open borders doesn't work, take a look at europe. It has open borders. It has a collective currency... which is stronger than the american dollar. I think america needs to come out of the isolationist dark-ages and into the new world. The real world. We already have a global economy. Unity is coming.

ahh i see your point :]

Our country should either dissolve the laws that make it illegal, or enforce them. Enough of this sitting-on-the-fence bull. We're either okay with people not obeying our laws and going through the proper channels to come here, or we're not. Our government needs to make up its mind, but our population needs to make up its mind first. Do we support these laws or not?

I agree there are some illegal immgrants who have completely taken over. Just about everywhere in Northeastern PA...there are hundreds of mexicans some are legal and some arent. They have caused problems in the past with job opportunities in the area. Yes they do live in large packs. I dont see how they can all live under one roof. I remember one time my friend lived in an apartment with her boyfriend and there was another person living downstairs. I couldnt see how their neighbor could stand having almost 8 mexicans living with her and her family. There were only two bedrooms and one bathroom...thats ridiculous. They prolly shouldnt even being receiving medicaid and welfare b/c like you said its not fair to other ppl who are U.S. citizen. medicaid and welfare is for ppl who really need insurance and help from the gov't. Just a few months ago a politician in Scranton had all the illegals in NEPA to be sent back to Mexico.

I do agree that a real stance needs to be taken. I wouldn't agree with a totally isolationist policy, but at least then everyone would know how we stand on immigration. Right now it is too loose and vague.

Right on

Look at this from a humanists' point of view. DOn't think about money or anything else for just a moment.

Down in mexico, living is hard. They can do job 1 up here, and live a lot better than they can doing the same job down in mexico.

Stop thinking of them as "others", as "those mexicans", "those people", etc. They are just like you and me. They are not animals living in "packs". You are dehumanizing them, and that's wrong. They are ordinary people, and all they want is a good life, a good education for their children, and adequet health care.

All they want is clean water, a steady job, and a real income. They want a good roof over their heads; they don't want to live in the squalor they do in the south.

Many immigrants send much of their money back home so that their families can afford health care and food down in mexico.

Are there "bad" immigrants? Illegal aliens who do nothing except mooch off our taxes? Yes. I'd be idiotic not to admit that. But I think (and maybe someone needs to find the statistics on this) that most illegal and legal immigrants are working hard for their money every single day.

not sure what the statistics are but i know a few illigal immigrants that do work hard
im not saying all of them are money sucking people
its just the majority of them

theres a duplex neighborhood that is brand new and was just built 2 yrs ago
its like townhomes and stuff
and until about a year ago it was super nice
now 99% of everyone who lives there is illigal immigrants and the place seriously looks like trash
beer cans everywhere
trashy yards
no respect for the property they live on and the landlords who own them dont care because as long as they get their rent money no one cares

however i must say that ou never here of them doing anything bad on the news? im sure they stick to themselves and you never here that "2 immigrants shot and killed someone" on the news

i dont care if they are here to make money for their family or not. if they want to live here to it legally. people who gives these illegal immigrants jobs and places to live here should also be punished and it should be a harsh punishment to set an example

agreed
has any one here ever been to the border of mexico and texas
its horrible
poverty and trashy
nice areas have been run down because they dont take care of thier property

you literally have half naked and barefoot children running the streets begging for change
and if you say "oh sorry i dont have any"
they flick you off

Some of you are real racist, elistist snots.

"they live"

"those people"

"them"

"they should be turned away from getting medical treatment"

"they've taken all the jobs"

"borders keep terrorists away"

"borders prevent spread of disease"

Happy 4th of .July, naive, self centered .americans.

[For the record, I didn't create this thread and misspell the word "illegal".]