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Radiate

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Posted: 07-04-07 05:20am

Hi,

i've recently been dating my girlfriend for 4 months and she's a great girl! However, since i've met her she's told me that she's prone to panic attacks. Sometimes she worries over the most improbable things and just thinking about them over and over again in her mind makes her go into panic attacks sometime.

I've never been in the presence of them until once whilst in bed. She was worried about being pregnant (but it was so exaggerated cos we've not done anything to even make her possible of being pregnant, it was just the thought of it) and she started to uncontrollably shake.

She said her attacks present themselves differently and that she's had them since she was 18 during stressful exam periods when they were worse. She's gone to see a counsellor but hasn't since they've been "better" after those exam periods.

I guess what i'm asking is more information of how panic attacks and anxiety work? I don't want to live in ignorance so if anyone here who suffers from them can give me an insight that'd be really helpful. I mean, she just worries so much and i keep telling her stop worrying and tell her how she's being unrealistic and she knows, but she can't stop worrying!

What can i do to help?
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johnR

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Posted: 07-13-07 12:32pm

Telling her she needs to stop worrying is right, but the problem is worrying is a bad habit for her that is ingrained and she now needs to learn how not to worry. Get her to start doing the thought countering exercises taught in cbt. Cbt is great for panic anxiety and depression but you have to do the exercises everyday so it does take a lot of work and self discipline. I still do the tea form exercise that I learned in the book by sam obitz daily and the thought processes that eliminate panic and anxiety do become ingrained over time. The sooner she gets started on these the better.
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Radiate

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Posted: 07-14-07 11:54am

Thanks, but what exactly are Thought Countering Exercises? And what other exercises from CBT are good?
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johnR

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Posted: 08-01-07 18:21pm

Hi Radiate and sorry for the late reply. I didn't get a reply notification and have not signed on here recently. Anyway to answer your questions there are ten common thinking errors that cause anxiety and cbt teaches you how to catch these errors and counter them in a tea form with more realistic thinking and retrain your brain to stop overreacting to things and thus eliminate the panic and anxiety. There's also a cbt exercise where you put things back into perspective which is quite helpful and some exposure techniques for instances that tend to be perceived as the cause of panic attacks. In addition there are some breathing and mediating exercises that can be helpful also. Let me know if you have any more questions?
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CaroleK

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Panic Attacks
Posted: 08-11-07 02:53am

I suffered from panic attacks 2 years ago after leaving a very stressful job. One night I was lying on the sofa watching TV and felt myself go faint. Thought I just imagined it and then it started again. I called my husband and went straight to a window to have fresh air.
I could hardly breathe and had to struggle not to faint. I was white as a ghost and seeing the fright in my husband's eyes made it worse. I had a pain in the heart area so I thought I was having a heart attack.
My husband called the emergency for me but they wouldn't come because I hadn't fainted.
I was scared so went straight to hospital where they did a few tests : heart, urine sample....
They couldn't find anything and said it was probably due to stress.
Because I did not trust that everything was OK every evening at the same time, I would suffer from a panic attack. I could not stay up past 9pm.
I went on holidays to Turkey, still with the symptoms and one day it became quite bad so I went to hospital there : they did a lot more tests and same conclusion : everything was OK just panic attacks. They gave me medicine and because I trusted them the symptoms went away.

Recently, I have had a lot of health problem and the inefficiency of my GP and the time it takes to get results has put a strain on me again and I had a panic attack 2 nights ago.

It is all in the head : if you are stressed and think negative you are more prone to panic attacks.

Carole
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Radiate

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Posted: 08-11-07 08:18am

johnR wrote:
Hi Radiate and sorry for the late reply. I didn't get a reply notification and have not signed on here recently. Anyway to answer your questions there are ten common thinking errors that cause anxiety and cbt teaches you how to catch these errors and counter them in a tea form with more realistic thinking and retrain your brain to stop overreacting to things and thus eliminate the panic and anxiety. There's also a cbt exercise where you put things back into perspective which is quite helpful and some exposure techniques for instances that tend to be perceived as the cause of panic attacks. In addition there are some breathing and mediating exercises that can be helpful also. Let me know if you have any more questions?


No worries, i appreciate the help! This CBT sounds really great, are there any books out there that might give more information about them or any information about what CBT entails so i can pass them onto my girlfriend?
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sarahlynn7

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Posted: 08-11-07 23:00pm

Hi Radiate,

I have experienced panic attacks within the past couple of months and I have some suggestions that have helped me out a lot. 1) Be as supportive to her as possible... Reassure her that everything is ok and that there is nothing to worry about. Panic attacks are very scary to go through, but they cannot hurt you. 2) If she starts feeling panicked, tell her to take slow deep breaths, breathing in through the nose and out through the mouth. This will help her to concentrate on something else besides the anxiety that she is feeling. 3) Tell her to try to take time out of each day to relax… Taking a hot bath or getting a back massage is very relaxing and relieves stress. 4) Try to get her to eat healthy and take a multi-vitamin. My therapist told me that when people feel stressed, they eat comfort food or junk food instead of eating healthy, which can make you feel even worse. She also said that you tend to go through a lot of vitamin B when you are stressed. 5) Take a walk together or do some exercise. This will help clear her mind and make her feel better about herself. 6) Pick up some books on stress and anxiety... I bought The Relaxation & Stress Reduction Workbook (Fifth Edition) and When Panic Attacks. They both seem to be very helpful! 7) If nothing above works, she may want to contact a Therapist (like I did) that specializes in stress and anxiety. Knowing that there is someone available to talk to (besides family and friends) that can give you suggestions on controlling the anxiety is very comforting! They may also recommend that she see a Psychiatrist who can prescribe some anxiety medication.

Hope these suggestions help! Very
Happy

-Sarah
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colette_ mossberger

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I Also Have Them
Posted: 08-14-07 19:51pm

i try not to worry my boyfriend to much with them when they happen i go in the other room so he doesn't freak out he has never seen me have one the last one i had everything went white and i almost passed out please just stick by her and comfprt her as much as possible. the more you help her not to worry the less she will have them take it from a girl with the same thing. i to am going to talk to a conculoer and i think they are getting better
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johnR

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Posted: 08-24-07 16:25pm

Radiate wrote:
johnR wrote:
Hi Radiate and sorry for the late reply. I didn't get a reply notification and have not signed on here recently. Anyway to answer your questions there are ten common thinking errors that cause anxiety and cbt teaches you how to catch these errors and counter them in a tea form with more realistic thinking and retrain your brain to stop overreacting to things and thus eliminate the panic and anxiety. There's also a cbt exercise where you put things back into perspective which is quite helpful and some exposure techniques for instances that tend to be perceived as the cause of panic attacks. In addition there are some breathing and mediating exercises that can be helpful also. Let me know if you have any more questions?


No worries, i appreciate the help! This CBT sounds really great, are there any books out there that might give more information about them or any information about what CBT entails so i can pass them onto my girlfriend?


Hi Radiate, This time I have no excuse for being so late in replying other than being really busy and not signing on here since my last post to you. The book I always recommend to start with is the one we used in my group. It is short and straight forward it's called Been there, done that? Do This! By sam obitz. There's a link where you can read the forward to the book on the website www.Tao3.Com under about the about the book. I hope this is helpful to your girl and let me know if you have any more questions?
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