Abortion Debate Forum - Abortion = murrder ?

Jules replied on June 24th, 2007

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Well 'murder' is a legal term that applies only to born persons (I think) so it isn't murder as such. However, it is the killing of a human life and, in my opinion, the killing of a unique human being.

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rasuyoung replied on June 24th, 2007

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I will make my answer short and sweet:

.I disagree with the statement.

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Birch replied on June 24th, 2007

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Although I recognize the legality of the term, "murder", I also believe it is subjective. People decide what "murder" is, so there is room for interpretation.

War = murder, murder= wrong, war = wrong : to me, but I recognize that not everyone feels that way.

As far as abortion goes, I don't believe it's murder. Not sentient life.

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Tylanas replied on June 24th, 2007

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PurestGreen wrote:

Well 'murder' is a legal term that applies only to born persons (I think) so it isn't murder as such. However, it is the killing of a human life and, in my opinion, the killing of a unique human being.

I do agree with the above. It is human, and it's obviously not a clone of either parent, so it is unique.

However, age-old argument here, it is not a person, and it is not independent. Thus, it is valued less on the scale of life than the mother, and since she is the one it is living off of, she has the right to remove it.

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Jude-Love replied on June 24th, 2007

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I disagree with it personally, but I also disagree with it intellectually. I think it is extreme to refer to abortion as "homicide" and makes a mockery of real, actual homicide. It is an extremist statement to catch attention and nothing more.

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Jude-Love replied on June 24th, 2007

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Can I ask why in the world I can't type the word 'homicide'?

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Tylanas replied on June 24th, 2007

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Jude-Love wrote:

Can I ask why in the world I can't type the word 'not a nice act'?

It's the word filter, and we can't seem to convince the admins to change it.

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Mommy35 replied on June 24th, 2007

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rasuyoung wrote:

I will make my answer short and sweet:

.I disagree with the statement.

I second this

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Cambion replied on June 24th, 2007

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disagree with it personally, but I also disagree with it intellectually. I think it is extreme to refer to abortion as "not a nice act" and makes a mockery of real, actual not a nice act. It is an extremist statement to catch attention and nothing more.

I agree. To compare the killing of a vegetating, non-breathing, unborn fetus that has done nothing but be a parasite to a living, breathing, functioning, speaking, feeling human being is crazy and offensive. Most people whose friends or relatives have been killed would probably not be too pleased if the loss of their loved one was compared to the termination of a thing in some woman's uterus that looks more like a shrimp than a human.

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msrosie replied on August 18th, 2007

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Post being reviewed and temporarily unavailable???? What the heck????

MÛrder is the *illegal* killing of a person. Even if the z/e/f were a person, if abortion is legal, it *cannot* be mÛrder.

This censoring of words is bovine excrement.

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Jules replied on August 18th, 2007

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msrosie wrote:

Post being reviewed and temporarily unavailable???? What the heck????

MÛrder is the *illegal* killing of a person. Even if the z/e/f were a person, if abortion is legal, it *cannot* be mÛrder.

This censoring of words is bovine excrement.

This thread is from a couple of months ago, someone basically came a'trollin' earlier and I had to report their post Wink

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embarrassed40 replied on August 23rd, 2007

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If abortion is not homicide, than I am not too sure what is. That was a potentially beautiful child that was never born. The thought of ever aborting the beginnings of a viable child is literally nauseating to me. My opinion is not based on religious belief since I am not religious.

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Tylanas replied on August 23rd, 2007

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embarrassed40 wrote:

If abortion is not not a nice act, than I am not too sure what is. That was a potentially beautiful child that was never born. The thought of ever aborting the beginnings of a viable child is literally nauseating to me. My opinion is not based on religious belief since I am not religious.

That aborted embryo or fetus was also a potential serial killer. Your argument is flawed. You cannot made a decision like that based solely on "potential".

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embarrassed40 replied on August 23rd, 2007

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Eiri wrote:

embarrassed40 wrote:

If abortion is not not a nice act, than I am not too sure what is. That was a potentially beautiful child that was never born. The thought of ever aborting the beginnings of a viable child is literally nauseating to me. My opinion is not based on religious belief since I am not religious.

That aborted embryo or fetus was also a potential serial killer. Your argument is flawed. You cannot made a decision like that based solely on "potential".

That is a very strange thing to say.

I do not even know how to respond to the statement, so I will leave it alone.
Incidently somehow my words were changed. I never said "not not a nice act," I believe I said something like "Not homicide". I am confused as to why my language would be different from what I originally said.

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Tylanas replied on August 23rd, 2007

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Because the word filter on the forum is occasionally retarded, and its favorite word to edit for no reason whatsoever is murder. It becomes "homicide". This is supposedly to prevent pro-lifers from offending women on the Medical Abortion forum. I'd just prefer to delete the offensive posts, and not edit our words.

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embarrassed40 replied on August 23rd, 2007

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Eiri wrote:

Because the word filter on the forum is occasionally retarded, and its favorite word to edit for no reason whatsoever is murder. It becomes "not a nice act". This is supposedly to prevent pro-lifers from offending women on the Medical Abortion forum. I'd just prefer to delete the offensive posts, and not edit our words.

Christ it did it edited again! Ok well it was supposed to read homicide! Lets see if that works!

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Tylanas replied on August 23rd, 2007

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embarrassed40 wrote:

Eiri wrote:

Because the word filter on the forum is occasionally retarded, and its favorite word to edit for no reason whatsoever is murder. It becomes "not a nice act". This is supposedly to prevent pro-lifers from offending women on the Medical Abortion forum. I'd just prefer to delete the offensive posts, and not edit our words.

Christ it did it edited again! Ok well it was supposed to read not a nice act! Lets see if that works!

It's going to edit it every single time you know... It's just mindless code. PM me if you'd like to know how to write it without the forum being stupid; or, just write murrder. Everyone knows what you mean lol.

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Jincks013 replied on August 25th, 2007

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Re: Abortion = Murrder ?

beckster wrote:

"Murder is wrong. Abortion is murder. Therefore abortion is wrong"

your opinions on the above statement please

(not made by me) Wink

Easy answer; Abortion isn't homicide; there is no wrong.

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milletics replied on August 27th, 2007

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Cambion wrote:

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disagree with it personally, but I also disagree with it intellectually. I think it is extreme to refer to abortion as "not a nice act" and makes a mockery of real, actual not a nice act. It is an extremist statement to catch attention and nothing more.

I agree. To compare the killing of a vegetating, non-breathing, unborn fetus that has done nothing but be a parasite to a living, breathing, functioning, speaking, feeling human being is crazy and offensive. Most people whose friends or relatives have been killed would probably not be too pleased if the loss of their loved one was compared to the termination of a thing in some woman's uterus that looks more like a shrimp than a human.

You are obviously uneducated on the matter. The fetus is NOT a parasite. Secondly; It IS offensive to the child growing in the mother. Third; it is NOT a thing growing in her. It IS scientifically a human being. And finally I believe calling it "homicide" is completely justifyable.
The baby inside is 100% innocent.
Educate yourself on the matter before making such opinions.

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