I know it's not, and that's the point.
someone was saying that if it was, it
would be a violation of our rights. I
wondered how this could
be?
I mentioned this only because there has
been talk about requiring young girls to
get the shot, just like other required
vaccines. I wasn't trying to say that it
is a requirement, I was kinda being
fecicious (sp?). Sorry for my
misconstruding humor!! lol.
Also, like christy said, it isn't always
required that your child get vaccinated.
I think they just like to say that it is a
requirement to scare you into getting them
when they aren't really required at
all.
Yeah, I totally interpreted it as
"requiring the hpv vaccine would be a
violation of our rights" even though other
vaccines are semi-required... and I got
confused, as there are no side effects
I've heard of, and great protection to
gain.
I went back and updated my first post to
make my statement clearer.
I still don't think that it should be
mandatory. I think it is a personal
choice to start being sexually active, and
it is a personal choice to be on birth
control, and it should be a personal
choice to have the shot. Yes it it
benificial, but I just don't think the
government should make you do anything
that has to do with your body!
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Tylanas
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I think when it comes to a potentially
dangerous disease that can be spread to
others (like all the ones school-aged
children are vaccinated for) you shouldn't
have a choice, just like school aged kids
don't. Yes, there's a waiver, and of
course there could be a waiver for this.
But I do feel it should be more mandatory,
like other vaccines are.
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sillyakchick
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Posted: 06-15-07 11:44am
This is a very interesting topic-I was
discussing this with someone else the
other day. they said that all HIV
patients should be quarantined. Is this a
violation of personal rights or a
protection of others insociety for the
greater good? What about the guy who flew
out of the country with his TB infection?
Is it violating his rights to quarantine
him? Where do the rights of the
individual patient become sacrificed for
the protection of society? Where is the
legal cut-off? Where do you think it
should be?
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Tylanas
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Posted: 06-15-07 17:01pm
sillyakchick
wrote:
This is a very interesting
topic-I was discussing this with someone
else the other day. they said that all
HIV patients should be quarantined. Is
this a violation of personal rights or a
protection of others insociety for the
greater good? What about the guy who flew
out of the country with his TB infection?
Is it violating his rights to quarantine
him? Where do the rights of the
individual patient become sacrificed for
the protection of society? Where is the
legal cut-off? Where do you think it
should be?
I don't think someone with a disease that
can only be spread in one way should be
quarantined, especially if that mode of
transmission is controllable (unlike
coughing, sex is a choice).
TB however is highly contagious *and*
lethal, so yes, he should have been better
quarantined. He was told not to fly and he
broke the law. Your rights end when you
are basically carrying around a loaded gun
that can misfire at any moment; that's
what a highly contagious disease is. Aids
is not highly contagious. I bet the person
you talked to is also anti-gay rights and
thinks only gay people get aids.
A person with aids just walking around is
not going to infect anyone. A person with
tb is. That's the difference.
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Birch
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Posted: 06-17-07 10:52am
What are the long term affects of the
vaccine?
Anyone?
*crickets*
How old is it? And they want to inject it
into young, developing girls?
Yee.
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Tylanas
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Posted: 06-17-07 12:12pm
No one knew the long-term affects of the
polio vaccine either...
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Birch
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Posted: 06-17-07 15:32pm
Or the drug thalidomide.
I prefer not to gamble.
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mc4ever02
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Posted: 06-18-07 14:45pm
Or depo.....that one is a barrel of fun...
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sillyakchick
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Posted: 06-18-07 15:33pm
Can you say .Norplant? Horrible stuff!
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Birch
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Posted: 06-19-07 11:58am
mc4ever02
wrote:
Or depo.....that one is a
barrel of
fun...
Oh, man! Not only did depo make me think
sex was as desirable as eating my own
vomit, I also gained weight (about
30lbs!!!) eating as I normally do, but the
clincher for me was when I got pregnant.
I dropped the depo, I lost all that
weight, and I'm not gestating anything but
horny vibes.
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Anne123
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Joined: 13 Apr 2007 Posts: 290 Location: Canada
Posted: 06-19-07 12:44pm
I asked an on-campus (University) doctor
about a year ago about depo - because I
was hoping to get on a form of birth
control where I wouldn't get a period.
He said that the side effects of depo
aren't worth it, that it's really only
good for 3rd world countries and flat out
refused to prescribe it. I'm glad he
refused, and am surprised at how many
young women on this forum are being
prescribed depo.
Also, apparently .Norplant never even made
it to Canada - from what he told me.
Regardless, we need to do some research
ourselves before choosing a method of
birth control, or whether or not to get a
vaccine.
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nightangel73
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Posted: 06-19-07 20:54pm
rasuyoung
wrote:
Nightangel, if you're under
the age of 26 you can still get the
vaccine and it can be beneficial, because
you probably don't have all 4 types of Hpv
that the vaccine helps protect
against.
I'm much older than 26 (got the virus at
31 now I'm 34 and had abnormal paps for a
year and half, now i'm back to normal).
Whatever strains I got until my last man
which is my fiance there is nothing I can
do about it at this point. But since I
will have no more sexual partners there is
no use for the vaccine since I'm not going
to be exposed to different strains of hpv
anymore. The age set for the vaccine to be
given until 26 is only because generally
by 26 most women are married so they are
not exposed to different strains of the
virus anymore. So you have to think about
your sexual life and evaluate yourself if
you really need it. If you are 20 virgin
and your sexual partner is a virgin and
you plan to be monogamous with him forever
then you don't need the vaccine. If you
have been having sex with a man for a long
time having normal smears and you don't
plan to have anymore sexual partners you
don't need the vaccine neither. But if you
are 35 and say you are divorced and plan
on having sex with different new men until
you find a new husband then I'd say to
take it as you are exposed to different
strains of hpv with each new sexual
partner (if the partners are virgin then
no need to worry).
That's my .2 cents
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Jaydensmommy
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Posted: 06-20-07 16:21pm
I got the first set of the 3 shots for
guardisil within the past few months. I
go fo the next in july. I think it is a
wonderful idea for all young women. It
may only protect you from 4 strands of
hpv, but those 4 strands are the most
common therefore the most common for us
young women to contract. Even if it
protected against 1 strand...why not?
What do I have to lose?? I see many
people saying they aren't getting it
because they are in a monogomous
relationship.....whos to say that will
last forever? You could be married even
at the age of 21...what happens if god
forbid you got divorced in your mid 30's
and were single and mingling again. At
that age in your life it is too late and
not reccomended to get the vaccine then.
I always say better safe than sorry. That
is just my personal opinion though. I
don't like taking chances with my health
and if something can even remotely be
prevented...so be it.
