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Birch

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Posted: 07-06-07 18:25pm

Ben23 wrote:
lol yes...

cons - the government regulated pot has seeds, which makes us all sterile

but seriously, there are alternatives to medical marijuana. I just cant help but think they are using cancer patients etc. to try and sneek in the world wide leagalization of marijuana. I am all for leagallizing it, but I think medical marijuana is just a made up reason to make it widely available.


I'm not sure what the alternatives are, exactly. Could you expound? Are these alternatives as cheaply had and widely distributed? Side effects?

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kaerbear

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Posted: 07-28-07 06:16am

I just don't understand why no one ever talks about the fact that marijuana is being sold by criminals. These are people in gangs who don't give a rat's behind about your health or wellbeing. They are the same people who will kill others to protect their lucrative business, they sell other drugs like crack and meth, which are comparable in price and will even go out of their way to give drugs to kids with a pager number if they want to get more. They have a vested interest in getting people hooked on drugs and will add harder drugs to weed so that people are not just smoking that "natural herb" that they are always talking about. I know some of the weed advocates are going to say, oh, i know my dealer he is a nice guy. Yeah right. I live in a pretty small city and even here you can't set up shop to sell weed without being paid a visit by whatever gang has control of that area. They may let the little guy sell it and he may seem harmless but you have to think about who is supplying him and allowing him to sell. These aren't friendly hippies living on a farm growing harmless weed. They are criminals, thieves, murderers, pushers and pimps and they are the scum of the earth and when you buy weed you are putting money in their pocket. The fact that some of my friends who are pro weed will overlook this fact at the same time that they are crying over the whales and protecting the environment just goes to show that they have a dependancy and are willing to compromise their morals and values in order to keep their supply intact.
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Posted: 07-28-07 08:34am

What about people who grow MM for themselves? I refute the notion that ALL pot gwoers are selling other drugs. I have several acquaintances who have "hobby gardens" and they aren't part of any gang, nor are they interested in any other types of drugs. My own care provider only grows for me. He has a regular job and just does this as a favor to me.
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kaerbear

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Posted: 07-28-07 10:21am

I'm all for it but you have to admit it's the exception. What percentage of weed smokers (i'm talking all of them, not medicinal smokers) do you really think are getting it from a trusted source growing it in their back yard? Even the stuff that is grown locally here is being grown by philipino workers on local farms who work for next to nothing and who are being paid by Asian gangs. The rest of it is being imported. That is why when the cops make a big bust you see the weed right there on the table with huge bags of coke and hand guns and machine guns. Because the same people who were selling the weed were selling the coke and guns. I think it would be wonderful if it could be legalized and regulated so that people knew what they were getting was safe and that the money wasn't going to support organised crime. I would love to know that if a kid is going to experiment with pot in high school, like I did, that it is not going to be laced with crack or meth or some other worse drug. Maybe if certain people stopped abusing it long enough for it to stop being associated with crime it would be easier to make it legal. That is why the cops don't want to come down on people who are users in Canada but they know at the same time who is profiting from that use. I don't have any problem with weed, although I do think people can be addicted to it just like anythng else (food, sex, gambling), I just have a problem with criminals making so much money off of it and I have a problem with seeing close friends of mine go from weed to worse drugs and then end up flushing their lives down the toilet.
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Posted: 10-07-07 03:40am

Cons- Marijuana can cause mental illnesses such as schitzophrenia in users who have had a turbulent background. Also memory loss.

A point you have made is that drinking also causes memory loss plus many other complications.
I completely agree, but is that a sufficient excuse to smoke weed? It seems to be the only excuse for stoners, and I'm sick of hearing it.

We all look down on alcoholics, and we agree that that is a problem, but getting stoned often is looked at as fine.
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Posted: 10-07-07 11:00am

I don't look at getting stoned as fine... I think it's incredibly stupid.

However, both alcohol and marijuana can be used in moderation especially since both are non-addictive in the PHYSICAL sense. Unlike cigarettes which lock you in via nicotine, I believe both alcohol and marijuana are only mentally addictive, and as I've said in the past, everything is mentally addictive, so it's not really sane to outlaw something because it's mentally addictive.
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Posted: 10-08-07 06:34am

Monket wrote:
Cons- Marijuana can cause mental illnesses such as schitzophrenia in users who have had a turbulent background. Also memory loss.

A point you have made is that drinking also causes memory loss plus many other complications.
I completely agree, but is that a sufficient excuse to smoke weed? It seems to be the only excuse for stoners, and I'm sick of hearing it.

We all look down on alcoholics, and we agree that that is a problem, but getting stoned often is looked at as fine.


There is a vast difference between being an occasional or medical user of MJ and being an alcoholic. To compare the tow in such a manner is negligible. Would you look down on a person who had a couuple of beers on the weekend? Not all peopel who smoke MJ are "stoners". Furthermore, there are no medical benefits from alcohol sans the red wine/cholesterol theory and a slight reduction in stress.
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Legalize .......
Posted: 10-30-07 17:00pm

I think it is not legal because the government would not be able to get their money off of it. What is the difference in all the other pain meds that are a derivitive of some other sort of plant ... It is a seed that was here long before the government ever got involved. I believe everything has a purpose and if you have ever watched a cancer patient not eat or throw-up from chemotherapy... it would be easy to let them have it...
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Posted: 01-28-08 19:18pm

Eiri wrote:
I do believe the pros outweigh the cons of marijuanna.

Almost anything done in moderation is pretty much good. That's the primary teaching of buddhism!


Eiri, are you Buddhist? I lean towards Buddhism myself. No wonder you are so well rounded and grounded! Of cores I don't know all there is to know about it but I really lean that way spiritually speaking.
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Posted: 01-28-08 19:19pm

sadie1 wrote:
I think it is not legal because the government would not be able to get their money off of it. What is the difference in all the other pain meds that are a derivitive of some other sort of plant ... It is a seed that was here long before the government ever got involved. I believe everything has a purpose and if you have ever watched a cancer patient not eat or throw-up from chemotherapy... it would be easy to let them have it...


So true.... Very
Happy peace and Love,HomerX
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