Schizophrenia Forum - What Do Schizophrenic People Believe?

Mental Health > Schizophrenia Forum > What Do Schizophrenic People Believe?

Schizophrenia is a lifelong brain disorder. But how do doctors define it? And is there a cure?...

Can a Schizophrenic person hide there mental illness and never be diagnosed their entire life, and live as a normal person and never be found out except for themselves?

Yes many among the world do it!
No it is not possible!
I do it all the time!
Your paranoid, call a shrink?
Only a Psychiatrist can pull that off!
Only a person who fakes Schizophrenia can pull that off?
Maybe in the year 4000 that will happen!

41% [ 7 ]

29% [ 5 ]

17% [ 3 ]

0% [ 0 ]

5% [ 1 ]

Total Votes : 17

Q: What Do Schizophrenic People Believe?

asked by: questionboy on June 8th, 2007

New User

I am trying to research Schizophrenia to see what a Schizophrenic person actually witnesses in their Hallucinations. My neighbor accross the street from me, walks all over town talking and yelling, to thin air. It looks to me as if he thinks he is talking to a croud of 10 people, but he can be inside an empty room and go on forever. What does a Schizophrenic person actually see, witness and experience other then, 1 Hallucinations of voices that are not there, 2, Hallucinations of seeing things that are not there, 3 Hallucinations of smells that are not there, 4 Hallucinations of touch that are not there, 5 Hallucinations of tastes when there is no food in the mouth, other then the 5 sences being twisted into something false to create a Hallucination effect, what else does a Schizophrenic person actually live through in that false world that their illness creates? Why do they act it all out? What delusional beliefs do they hold other then "The TV is broadcasting special messages to me", "The radio is broadcasting my thoughts live to the world", "The world is coming after me to take me away, the world is ending!!"

Can a Schizophrenic person live a normal life without ever being diagnosed or realizing it? Can a Schizophrenic person realize that they are different then normal society and be Schizophrenic but keep it secret all their live, then die of old age and never ever be diagnosed or noticed as a Schizophrenic by anyone other then the Schizophrenic person themselves? Can a Schizophrenic person be Schizophrenic all their life but successfully hide it from society and die of old age as the rest of the world, and keep it so secret that they are never diagnosed with any mental illness? I have heard a few rumors that some but not all Schizophrenic people can pull that off. If that is true, why can't all Schizophrenics do that, and why can other Schizophrenics do that?

Also I once heard of someone who wanted FREE disablity money from the government so they decided to fake having hallucinations so that a psychiatrist can diagnose them as Schizophrenic so that they can get anti-psychotics to sell on the street and also at the same time get disability money from the government, is that actually possible for a person to fake out hearing voices, seeing hallucinations, and act it out real enough so that mental health officials classify that person as mentally ill? Can a mental health professional or a psychiatrist detect who is really Schizophrenic and who is faking it? Can they determine who is Schizophrenic and who just faking it for government disability money even if the person who fakes it takes the perscribed meds to pass blood tests? And finally do all Schizophrenic people get paranoid? The ones that do get paranoid, what other paranoid beliefs do they hold besides, "They are coming after me"? and "I must do it, they told me to" Do Schizophrenic people believe they are Jesus Christ like that famous guy with the kool-aid?

Replies(13)

ONDERDONK

replied on June 19th, 2007

Experienced User

i'm diagnosed schizotypal, when i try to act sane, and schizphrenic when i want to vent. i think i am schizophrenic when i'm dreaming, or somewhat when severely stressed or exhasted. otherwise i can hide it, and yes, go through life undiagnosed, on no meds. i'm 41. hold a semi-regular consulting job, working a few weeks a month and living on it, by myself, 'cause i am too "sick" to keep a relationship - i give up. it's the illness or the relationship, and i pick the illness. i'ma shaman. small difference between sz and smanism - the dreamer must control the dream, not the dream the dreamer.
I have posted tons of my delusions and hallucinations, dream recall and shamanic journeying, on other forums. whereever they give me attention.

Users who thank ONDERDONK for this post: caoyanzhi

caoyanzhi

replied on August 31st, 2008

New User

insomnia

what is the relation between insomnia and sch

caoyanzhi

replied on August 31st, 2008

New User

where are your emails

harmony1

replied on August 31st, 2008

Supporter

I don't see how a schitophrenic could never be diagnosed they're whole life. I had a psychotic episode yrs ago and when it was at it's peak the people around me really noticed. Yes all the hallucinations you are talking about are spot on but they are so intense and so negative that 1. It would be very hard to fake.
2. It would be very difficult to just deal with it without some sort of treatment.
The whole experience was abslutely terrifying for me. I even felt as though I had died at one point and I have read that a lot of people felt the same way when they experiened they're first psychotic episode.
It's so frightening that without treatment I wouldn'teven want to think what my have happened to me.
Then when my symptoms weren't at they're peak. Yes i could work and yes I believe you can hide that side of it because it's not as intense and you can distinguish reality from non reality. You can just push those negative thoughts away. There's a knowing.. You know it's not real BUT when you don't know that it's not real that is when it is really frightening.

axemaniac

replied on September 4th, 2008

New User

can't hide

sure one can hise schizophrenia - but no way could a person hide a phycotic episisode
because at the time you are so removed from realitity that you do not realize that the things you are saying are delusional and make no sense at all

ONDERDONK

replied on September 5th, 2008

Experienced User

could not hide it this week - got arrested for believing im a sovereign nation while walking the streets of newark california. three days in santa rita penn. got bailed out though, the girlfriend loves me, got me out in time for my job this morning. psychosis does leak out from time to time. i like it that way, just the tip of the ice berg showing. i drink my hundred and ten dollar a pund oolong and hallucinate twenty four hours a day, but only when and where i want so as not to interfere with functioning in consensual reality. like inside the eye of the tapir at the zoo, or behind my closed eyes, the "movies"

Users who thank ONDERDONK for this post: iamafish

Frakattack

replied on September 13th, 2008

New User

When i was first diagnosed i was told that there is a spectrum of people with mental illness, and that some people only have a few symptoms and are never diagnosed. I waas told that I could almost fall into that group. However, that is before my worst symptoms manifested.

If you have very serious and intense symptoms, it is very hard to hide.

iamafish

replied on September 24th, 2008

New User

im the living proof, nobody will ever find out what crazy things happens in my brain

siriusgirl

replied on March 15th, 2009

New User

Hiding

I hide it because I have to. I left the country I lived in so I could hide it. I dont talk about anything people dont think is normal, I have learned what to say and what not to say. If you stay quiet most of the time thats the best way...if I talk too much people think I am weird and look at me funny and then ignore me. The hardest part is when time jumps or dimensions cross and I see bad and scary things...I have saved many people from the bad things but they dont even realise it. I am not scared anymore and that makes things alot better I only try to help the people who cant see the bad things. They have no idea what is around them.

PsychoPsychic

replied on March 16th, 2009

New User

There is no way to hide schizophrenia. You want to know what they believe so I will tell you, but mine is real and not a delusion because I see it, hear it, and feel it. I know it has to be real. I know the difference between reality and fantasy. What is going on with me right now sounds bizarre but its not. I see government agents everywhere I go and they cloak right in front of my eyes. They are after me because I destroyed the economy. Its my fault because I had dreams about it and wrote it down. The gov agents put a bomb in my neck that is so powerful, that it can wipe out an entire country and start world war 3. They implanted a chip in my brain, snake machines in my head that I feel all the time, and nanobots in the rest of my body. They are trying to make me a robot with technology that is 200 years ahead of our time. There are laser satellites that fired at me and missed by one inch! I would have died if it hit me. Another time the gov agents were firing laser guns at me, their aim is horrible! I am still alive....I think. I have thought broadcasting and thought insertion. The aliens are also after me, they call me the "Chosen One" to fight among them in an intergalactic war between 2 alien forces. I think its the bad guys who want me. They also plan to invade Earth and abduct the other people that they have chosen to fight in their war. It not just me. There's more to the story but I don't want it to be too long.

bigstrappa

replied on March 18th, 2009

New User

well it depends on the person.

i'm schizophrenic, so i can help you out. not all of us are in a different reality of our own. the people that are so far gone, is a good thing in a way it is the mind helping them out because they don't understand or can't handle reality, so they change it without knowing. it is kind of a good think that is bad at the same like. When it get bad is when the people know about it and have all the problems, but are still in touch with reality. (almost emotionless like mass murders and so on)

not saying all are that way or will be or can be. the laws you live by in your day to day world we don't understand.

sweetmadness

replied on March 26th, 2009

New User

IMO it's pretty easy to get the diagnosis and anyone can fake it! On the one hand I don't mind there hardly being any accurate tests- on the other hand it would be nice to know what is really goin' on inside--of course no one would tell you if you were the crazy one.

People CAN experience ANYTHING. Stop calling us 'schizophrenics' I don't call a cancer patient cancer.

...

FANTABULOUS

replied on November 20th, 2009

New User

First of all, you are only ASSUMING that so called "Schizophrenic" people are actually experiencing hallucinations!

Put a primitive monkey in front of a mirror. Now place a chimpanzee in front of another mirror. The primitive monkey sees another monkey, and is fascinated at how this "other" monkey moves when he moves, and at how the "other" monkey disappears completely whenever he looks behind the mirror. The chimpanzee on the other hand, sees an image of himself and is fascinated at seeing his lips, teeth, mouth, facial hair, etc., and suddenly understands why the female chimps are always after him, now that he can see just how incredibly handsome a chimp he truly is.

If the primitive monkey could speak, he would be saying that obviously the chimp is experiencing hallucinations due to the chimp being in a delusional state of mind. The crazy chimp is claiming to be seeing some crazy thing called the "self" in the mirror, while at the same time it is bloody obvious to everyone else that the chimp is truly just looking at another chimp, and that is all.

Now picture chimps and how they view Human beings.

Since the human beings are more advanced than the chimpanzees, the humans can see things and understand things that the chimps can not. Therefore with this being the case, the chimps would be chatting about the fact that the humans were experiencing hallucinations due to the humans being in a delusional state of mind, which was why the humans were constantly talking about things that did not really exist, things that just weren't really there at all, and the proof of this was overwelming because ALL of the chimps certainly couldn't see what these crazy humans were claiming to be seeing.

Thus if 1% of the human population was a tad ahead of the rest, the rest of the population would classify these specific people as delusional people since they can see things that the rest of the population crearly can not.

Learn About Us

Get Help

Join In

Do More

We comply with the HONcode standard for trustworthy health
information:
verify here.

The site is not a replacement for professional medical opinion, examination, diagnosis or treatment. Always seek the advice of your medical doctor or other qualified health professional before starting any new treatment or making any changes to existing treatment. Do not delay seeking or disregard medical advice based on information written by any author on this site. No health questions and information on eHealth Forum is regulated or evaluated by the Food and Drug Administration and therefore the information should not be used to diagnose, treat, cure or prevent any disease without the supervision of a medical doctor. Posts made to these forums express the views and opinions of the author, and not the administrators, moderators, or editorial staff and hence eHealth Forum and its principals will accept no liabilities or responsibilities for the statements made. Schizophrenia health sitemap.
This page was last updated on January 1, 2009.
© 2008 eForums, Inc