Schizophrenic Hallucinations and Reality (Page 1)

Hallucinations are not the main symptoms of schizophrenia. Rather, hallucinations are accessory symptoms present in some forms of schizophrenia. They are usually acoustic but can be also tactile, olfactory or gustative. Hallucinations are usually followed by delusive ideas.
There are 4 main types of schizophrenia: hebephrenic, simplex, catatonic and paranoid. Symptoms that are present in all types of schizophrenia (main symptoms) are:
1. disorders of associations (disturbed thinking processes);
2. lost emotions (apathy, lost ability for joy or sorrow);
3. ambivalence (the presence of two opposing ideas, attitudes, or emotions at the same time), and
4. Autism (a condition where the contact with reality is lost but the consciousness is still present)
Accessory symptoms present only in some types of schizophrenia include:
1. hallucinations;
2. delusive ideas;
3. catatonic symptoms;
4. poor and bizarre speech etc.
Hallucinations and delusive ideas are typical during paranoid schizophrenia. Most people can’t understand a schizophrenic's delusive thoughts because these people live quite literally in their own world.

i have schzioprenia its bizzare illness i think av i gone insane ? is it satan i see like invisable people like spirits hear voices saying lucifer and be careful and loads a things i just cant like shake it off it affected my mood my emotions i cud see writting in big red letters on the wall id see myself sitting in a circle of fire outside it was crazy then the most strangest thing was something happened to me with my ex partner then i just felt like i was in shock like i had major shock in my body its mad

I also have seen the spirits, I also believe it to be satan and his afflictors. If this is a mental illness then why are we all complaining of similar things. I do however trust that our Heavenly Father knows, and perhaps we were predestined for this misadventure, in some capacity, perhaps we will all find out after death, in the meantime, trust in Jesus. Question: Are most M.D.'s athiests? Do they ever research the spiritual?

You "see" similar things because you are both part of a shared culture...an ethos, in which you've both shared in the same, common, and widespread beliefs. In this case, since you come from a Judeo-Christian society, you rationalize the 'spirits' you see or hear as just that--spirits--and infuse them with religious concepts (bad = Satan / hell / devils / ghosts etc.)

Someone living across the world in , let's say, Communist China who devlops schizophrenia or a comparable disorder with hallucinations / delusions might 'see' similar shadows or shapes as you are and attribute them to radioactive energy globs that talk (or whatever because he comes from an athiest culture and doesn't have the same reference points you do to make sense of and/or ascribe to the 'shadows.' He'd probably find a whole bunch of other people in his culture who describe the same thing because they all have the same illness and the same reference points.

Just as you and CrazyDayz76 do...

Does that make sense?

Let me know if I can explain further or if you need help or resources for dealing with the spirits.

My warmest wishes to you,

Katherine

You "see" similar things because you are both part of a shared culture...an ethos, in which you've both shared in the same, common, and widespread beliefs. In this case, since you come from a Judeo-Christian society, you rationalize the 'spirits' you see or hear as just that--spirits--and infuse them with religious concepts (bad = Satan / hell / devils / ghosts etc.)

Someone living across the world in , let's say, Communist China who devlops schizophrenia or a comparable disorder with hallucinations / delusions might 'see' similar shadows or shapes as you are and attribute them to radioactive energy globs that talk (or whatever because he comes from an athiest culture and doesn't have the same reference points you do to make sense of and/or ascribe to the 'shadows.' He'd probably find a whole bunch of other people in his culture who describe the same thing because they all have the same illness and the same reference points.

Just as you and CrazyDayz76 do...

Does that make sense?

Let me know if I can explain further or if you need help or resources for dealing with the spirits.

My warmest wishes to you,

Katherine

They have many names.

BTW, Google anosognosia + schizophrenia...I hope it helps you out NOTschitzo...

And to answer your other question: Yes. There are MANY spiritual, non-athiest, doctors, many of whom belong to the organized religions (such as Christianity, Judaism, Buddhism, and Islam). Probably more so than the non-spiritual ones

Please read my reply to Notschitzo below. It may help/apply you, too. One of the scariest features of schizophrenia is 'anosognosia'--a lack of insight/awareness into one's own disease that often mimics denial. Its a major reason why people are non-compliant with meds AND a major reason why people with schizophrenia can get sicker and sicker...resulting in homelessness, drug abuse, isolation, and suicide/accidental death.

It sounds like you are in the early stages of the disease which is good news as you can stop it's progress early on and regain control of your mind and these 'invisible people.'

Every day, we're developing better and better drugs which, together with talk therapy, can allow you to [return to] lead a normal life! best of luck to you.

My warmest wishes,

katherine

There are actually 5 types of schizophrenia, not 4. Hebephrenic is the old term for "disorganized" schizophrenia and I think what you mean by "simplex" (never heard that term) is "residual" schizophrenia, and the others are paranoid, catatonic and the one you forgot is undifferentiated schizophrenia, making it 5 subtypes. Are you using the ICD 10 or the DSM IV? Maybe in the ICD 10 its different than the DSM IV.

I don't know if this is any help at all as the only hallucination I've really ever had is that static things have come alive somehow. Like for instance I see snakes in things - although once I imagined I saw a train go past where there was none... it was like I knew it wasn't real but I saw it anyway and it seemed real somehow.

Mostly for me however when I'm psychotic it's like reality takes on a different reality and people are not who are they are - they are all part of some conspiracy against me or something. Like in retrospect when I'm lucid like I am now on my medication I call what I experience the "theatre of hate".

As a final note what I don't think people realise sometimes is just how frightening it can be when it's happening.

My Mom's schizophrenic(paranoid), and she mostly hears talking and smells things that aren't there. I believe that hallucinating touch is rare, and they've caught criminals faking because they pretended to touch imaginary people. She's reclusive and has a difficult time relating to others. Just like kaz79 she's got a fear of snakes, and i'm thinking she sees them when they're not there. If i had to sum up how she thinks i'd say she unconsiously forms reality to meet her desires. She'll make up something right in front of me, but absolutly believes in it, and gets angry when i tell her it's not true. Even when i'm there with her she's not always totally in the same reality i'm in. I don't know about the other types but with her paranoia she's got hatred toward others, and a big overestimation of how many years she's worked, and how much she's entitled too. I don't think she's ever felt like the tv or newspaper was talking to her. I think they act out because their brain is sending information that is just as real as any of the input you or I receive. It so happens that the input that the brain is sending is not real. Imagine you felt the pain of putting your hand into a pot of boiling water, even if you're sitting at the kitchen table it'd still be really hard not to react and jerk your hand away from the pain. I imagine that's what it's like. Of course this is only my observation, she's the one with the disorder. Hope this helps,
Ben

I tend to hear people that aren't there, freak out because i think that there are people hiding just around the corner and i can see their shadows (other people cant see any shadows at all) and sometimes i see a man completely black. Black clothes and black skin with no features. He stands their and sometimes talks to me.

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i am not yet diagnosed with Schizophrenia but i am diagnosed with schizoaffective
i have hallucinations & delusions it has been going on for a month and i am leaveing for tennessee today i stopped going to doctor berry he was helping but i think i should go live with my dad i am only 18 years old and i have Schizophrenia symptoms really bad also schizoaffective problems also it is killing me what should i do go live with my dad and see if it gets better there are more than one person talking to me there is like 15 people talking in my head i need some advice these voices are saying they are trying to kill me burn down my house and take everything i have i live with my mom but leaveing for tennessee today january 11/2012 please help me send a reply i need to know what you think? please

Schizophrenia is an ancient mystic trapped in a modern world without the security or safety box of belief. Insanity is pushing the link into beyond, floating beyond reality to touch the face of god. Spirituality when denied creates rifts in the thought processes, gumming up the flow of information to transform a unique ability into a problem.

Schizophrenics build the surrounding environment into their mindset as opposed to the reverse, their subconscious builds into their conscious before it hits the outside world, mentally constructing the universe as it should be and then intaking what it is. Problems occur as desire born perceptions form alongside the true ones, in the schizophrenics brain the collective reality can be lost denying it from the stability it provides but providing an oppurtunity to be truly unique.

The "hallucinations" occur when the shifts in conscioussness the schizophrenic experiences come to the forefront, images and voices can appear as well as mis-perceived objects, reflections of thought processes in the gap. On a greater level this affects the ability to interact, as this shading of perception influences every aspect of the schizophrenics life, every intake of information from the out and every sense of self it has within.

Due to these illusions being constructed from deeply imbedded subliminal thought processes and hidden emotions, they can appear in the format of a higher being/world/level of intelligence, leading the schizophrenic to cling to these illusions as proof of his/her holiness or special powers, a higher calling/purpose. S/he will believe in the illusions as a different format of truth and will struggle to align the person into a framework where the illusion can mix successfully with reality. Mystics are at a supreme advantage here, as they generally have a clearly defined path to provide self-confidence and belief they are good, the schizophrenic is merely "possessed" and the mystical flow is percieved as demonic, leading to inner fight and lack of belief in self cycling with an over-imposed ego to compensate. Belief hardens the synaptic passageways, the mystic has the schizophrenic link hardened as per his/her format and therefore can leave it to recognize the real world. The schizophrenic is trapped in the perpetual battle, never willing to give in to the thought processes it percieves as corrupt and unable to delete them, instead of a stabilized spectrum it varies through the extremes on pretty much every aspect of self. Psychosis overtakes when denial has reached such a point it contradicts itself or hard reality, forcing focus unto the other end. Denial obstructs the thought lines leading to incoherent information processing and therefore interaction.

To finish off, consider the power of one who will have a fully interlinked sub-conscious and conscious to have a pure state of being in total awareness. Could Moses not of been a schizophrenic individual with belief fortified by his supporters to have it fully complete the circuits of self guided with perceptions of holiness to literally ascend above the realm of man to connect with the higher intelligence of creation, his own inner self without the conflictions of existance to have a pure state of being unconstrained by a sense of self....

i have schzioprenia its a bizzare illness i think it myself av i gone insane? is it satan ? the strangest thing was wen the invisable things i cud see there like invisable spirit like people i see and i cud here lucifer and be careful and loads of things i just cudnt shake it off it affected my mood my emotions it affected all of my life i became withdrawn then something happened to me then it went like i was in shock all of me felt like id had a major shock then strange real things started to happen tablet

I see both decedents and scary looking people. I also see cloaked figures in black. I also see transperant figures. The voices I hear explain that there are several issues, but dont fully state what they are. It is completely unnatural, therefore demonic in nature. All I know is that the devil is real, so is Jesus Christ. Med"s dont touch it. Spirits exist, why some can see and others cannot im unsure. There is no way to convince the medical community that there may be more than one issue, mental illness or the spirit realm. The spirit of paranoia comes from the devil.

I see both decedents and scary looking people. I also see cloaked figures in black. I also see transperant figures. The voices I hear explain that there are several issues, but dont fully state what they are. It is completely unnatural, therefore demonic in nature. All I know is that the devil is real, so is Jesus Christ. Med"s dont touch it. Spirits exist, why some can see and others cannot im unsure. There is no way to convince the medical community that there may be more than one issue, mental illness or the spirit realm. The spirit of paranoia comes from the devil.

hey im 15 years old i am taking medication now, so i dont show much symptoms, but when i whas 14 i thought that my school will control and take my sex life away, i thought that my dads girlfriend whas giving estrogen, thought that this girl could read my mind so i tryed to not think of embarrising thoughts, i thought that i was gods chosen one and i will be the only one on the earth when when it ends, i thought that my parent will dominate me and control me and take my sex life away, i thought i could talk to demons and shadows, i was scared that i would loose my sex drive, thought that i was only unique person, thought that everyone was against me,thought that if i dont do serten thing then somthing will happen to which i wont tell you, i also had obsessions about pills, playing a guitar and getting chest hair, getting big muscles. my obssesion on pills were testosterone, i thought testosterone whas a like a person inside body with this weird personality, i also thought that music whas telling me what to do and some of music with the lyrics, " i love you" ect.. i thought that god whas telling me something i thought that animals only love me and i also thought that i had super powers and i was the strongest out of everyone. you might think im weird but im just saying what i believe and i also thought that my parents would take away my tallents

I am SZ also, i have been for about 4 years and i am 24. I have also seen some wierd stuff/delusions that affect me and i think are real and dont know how a med would fix it, it makes me suspicious like a conspiracy is going on? anyway. i dont hear voices, i have before, but mainly see stuff, real stuff. i see these vehicles follow me and go wierd tactics. i awlays run into "DCI vehicles and cops and i do NOTHING wrong it really scares me. I See numbers like 222 like 4 times in a day, like a sign or something. I always wake up at it says 11:11 or i see it on clocks that are wrong all the time too. I used to get this sence of evil also and doom. the television talks about what i am thinking, and the radio tells me im going to die. This is not a joke. i really dont like electronics and unplug everything neccessary in my house. I have had these fake stars in the sky follow me/watch me 2.There are so much wierd stuff we dont know about out there. I also have thought i was jesus christ before in my shower and tried to crusify myslef

if you have any similar things like mine please talk to me i am new on this and would like some advice/replies cause this stuff is wierd. i also have many negative symptoms of SZ as i constantly move (akasthasia) i will sit in the same position and go blank for like a hour (cat). I Do not feel pleasure from much anything, i never can laugh and am very serious. i have no depression but a crap load of anxiety issues SEVERe panic attacks, somatic pain/real pain mixed with feeling on edge. i feel like i am going to die like 3 times a week and i even write good bye letters before i go to bed. This disease definatly sux. hope this helped. message me if u want please

Interesting that most posters are talking about conflicts of faith. This condition tests your faith - faith in reality, in your own sanity, in your relationships with others, in your self-belief. At the other end of this experience is a belief system you have created yourself by virtue of what you have been through and what you have learned. I was 'told' - and those of you reading this will understand - that "fear is the greatest hold the Dark has over mankind". This kind of rhetoric is familiar to a schizophrenic. Use your experiences to strengthen your own beliefs! The voices you hear have no power over you unless you grant it. Drugs may offer some assistance (I am not entering a discussion on that) but strength of spirit can only come from within.

I have schizophrenia -- It's mild you could say, more like I just fit the required criteria for the illness. I have friends, a boyfriend, great family, get great grades, have many interests, etc, and nobody knows except my close friends and family of course. I actually wrote a poetry book about my "experiences" with it, and it may get published!

Anyway, I don't want people to think schizophrenics are zombie psycho-killers equipped with a chainsaw and ready to climb into your window at night. Yes, I have hallucinations, delusions, and many other things, I've had my psychotic episode, I have panic attacks, phobias, weird emotional twists. But I'm "normal", whatever that is.

According to the research Schizophrenia is not a case of mistaken information that can be corrected different information. But the brain is somewhat plastic, but some disorders of the brain begin while the fetal nervous system is being assembled. These kinds of structural problems can not be "unlearned" and "replaced" by learning. People with bipolar disorder or schizophrenia have these conditions because their brains are not working properly

I see shadowy figures chasing after me trying to kill me that talk into my head and a girl in a white dress with black hair who has tried to cement which ever delusion I'm having at the time and her hair covers her eyes except for a few times have I seen her eyes and it's the wildest thing. Like just my vision spins around like a 360 and then I'm seeing the me from her and then Back around to me. Voices aren't as common they usually come out of background noise and further how strong I believe in everything, like I was listening to music at night and the music in my headphones the volume dropped out and the spirits told me if I didn't stop pacing and listening to music that they were going to kill me and then the volume came back in like someone twisting a knob. The "delusions" that the girl has played a part in to further how strongly I hold it were when I was believing that I was living in a dream and in order to wake up I had to fall from something cuz before you hit the bottom you're suppose to wake up. And I have these dreams but I times in the future that I have already lived but died and was sent back to relive these times in my life. One of them was of her choking me to death and woke up my roommate and the neighbors I was having such a fit. And sometimes my thoughts feel like they are speeding up in a circle and are going so fast that they will lift up and it feels like my head is going catch fire. That's the best overview that I can give quickly

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