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Q: Target Blood Glucose Levels
asked by: liz1965 on May 11th, 2007
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For those of you out there who monitor your blood glucose levels, what are your target values? My main problem is that my blood sugar goes really high (around 200 mg/dl) after I eat even a small amount of carbs, and then comes down fast. I'm really watching my diet, but it's touch (even w/meds) to keep that fast rise from happening. Anyway, I was curious as to what my target level should be after a meal (no help from the doctor on this either), which would presumably be based on what happens to most people after they eat (how high their glucose level goes).
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Stan
replied on May 12th, 2007
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No offense, but what the hell kind of food are you eating for it to jump to 200?
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liz1965
replied on May 12th, 2007
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Honestly, it doesn't take that much. I went out to dinner a few weeks ago and had Mexican food (two enchiladas and some chips and salsa) and it was 196. (I know, that was a a horrible set of food choices, which is rare for me these days.) One morning I had two eggbeaters, two thin bacon strips (all protein so far) and a bowl of instant oatmeal (nonsugared- about 20 grams of carbohydrate) and it was around 155. A few french fries, which I don't eat anymore, will put me up around 170 to 180, even if I eat them with a high protein meal. What's strange is that my fasting glucose level is normal, so again I am not diabetic.

Here are my glucose tolerance tests results (from 2001), which show a similar pattern.

Fasting = 95
One hour post ingestion = 209
two hours post ingestion = 141
three hours post ingestion = 82 (around this point I was starting to feel
really sick)
four hours post ingestion = 66
five hours post ingestion = 78

Is this unusual? Perhaps not, but unusual in the height of the peak and the severity of the drop?

Thanks,
Liz

p.s. I'm the one who takes Metformin and Glyset as well as adhering to a strict diet. My original diagnosis was reactive hyperinsulinemia (my local endocrinologist), which was given with no treatment.
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Stan
replied on May 12th, 2007
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Well, it doesn't take much when you eat caca. No offense, but yet again I must remind you, if you keep eating like that you're only doing yourself in. You're just keeping your body stuck in a high insulin mode and you'll never see progress. Even if you slip but once or twice a week, until you're stable don't even bother. That reached 196 because you just ate corn products, which shoot your glucose through the roof. Bacon, must I remind you, is cured, that's means there's sugar in it in some form. Instant oatmeal must be avoided, you should only be having whole grain, I mentioned that before. Don't even care how many french fries you have, they're made from potatoes, the worst vegetable in the world, and they're fried. The results I've seen before, not unusual. What are those things you're taking again, what do they do? If one of them is an insulin blocker for the love of freaking god do not eat anything like you mentioned above because your body won't be able to handle the strain.
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liz1965
replied on May 12th, 2007
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Point taken!

Neither drug is an insulin suppressor. Metformin makes you use insulin more effectively (given for insulin resistance), and Glyset supposedly slows your absorpion of carbs.

Is the most current version of your diet from 3/06 (Version Cool?
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Stan
replied on May 12th, 2007
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That one sucks, too extreme, though it did work. I need to write up another one soon. I'm not sure if you need better insulin function since you have too much, but take what they say.
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geenee25
replied on May 20th, 2007
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My brother has diabetes ( sometimes hypog ) and has swings similar to yours Liz, unfortunalety right now he does not follow a proper diet and relies on isulin ( forgot the miligrams) 2x a day. Well for a short time he followed my high protein, green veggies, nuts, fats and pure cheeses diet and he started to feel better within the first 2 weeks ( unlike me he was able to eat whole grains as well )...stress would make it low ( he was out of work then ). Well he started working, and the diet went out the window...he says it's too hard. Well you can only imagine all the swings he gets now.
I on the other hand am reactive hypog, my blood sugar never goes over 90 after a meal..and still have rapid drops in the hour..it goes to about 75 in 2 hours ( i'm ok ). Before i followed my diet I would eat complex carbs and would crash quick from 90 to 70 within an hour...2 hours at 60 I'm dizzy,foggy and look like I'm nuts Rolling Eyes . If I went 50 or below I have fainted ( or had something like a seizure ) this would be hour 3. Today I don't chance it during day hours. I make sure i have something every 2 1/2 hours. usually almonds when I can't have a meal. Other things that may effect blood sugar ( all stress ) heat, trying to do to many things in a day, travel, arguments and worries. I limit and prepare myself the best i can for these events. I also take b12, st johns wort, omega 3 and ginkgo. I do want to try something for adrenal fatigue. Most importantly, I take time to meditate, pray and be grateful. Wink
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Stan
replied on May 21st, 2007
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I have just the thing, increase your vitamin c intake to 1-2g per day using a good supplement. Have you found ginko has helped your concentration? I sometimes get this problem, though rarely, and it would help with my studies if it has positive effects.
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geenee25
replied on May 22nd, 2007
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The ginkgo does work for me, and the good stuff where u actually see the herbs....not the stuff at the drug store but the natural foods and health stores which I'm sure your familiar with. I have a large client base in my business so I have to keep my mind sharp, but because of so many sugar crashes I've felt my memory isnt so good and I have a hard time holding a thought. I don't know if you experience this but when my sugar starts to lower I feel myself having to concentrate harder on the things I'm doing (little mundane things) Now I'm 33 so it cant be my age. About the vitamin c, I was taking high dosages of vitamin c, and i took it mostly in the winter to build up my immune system , I was curious to know what else can it do? I was a little afraid of the acid. Oh and can you please tell me about chromium..do u recommend it?
So far I'm doing pretty good with my diet and vitamins...and if there is something better I'm willing to try it... My big challenge is I cant handle stress to well and no matter if I'm eating right or just ate, stress will send my sugar down instantly. I don't want to have episodes in front of people at the wrong times. I do want to mention that I am a pretty positive person and I spend a lot of time preparing myself for the day in meditation and really making an effort to keep myself from stress.
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Stan
replied on May 22nd, 2007
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Stress is definitely a toughy, but vitamin c can help with that too. Why afraid of the acid? That's the essential component of it. I'm not sure why it happens, but recent studies have shown in a blind test that 1-2g dosages significantly lower insulin levels, in addition to building your adrenals and making stress easier to deal with.
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ballroomeast
replied on August 18th, 2008
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For Liz1965
Liz1965,

I read another post of yours on a different forum - I have a couple of questions for you regarding sugar/carbs, please pm me.
Thank you.
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