For those of you out there who monitor
your blood glucose levels, what are your
target values? My main problem is that
my blood sugar goes really high (around
200 mg/dl) after I eat even a small amount
of carbs, and then comes down fast. I'm
really watching my diet, but it's touch
(even w/meds) to keep that fast rise from
happening. Anyway, I was curious as to
what my target level should be after a
meal (no help from the doctor on this
either), which would presumably be based
on what happens to most people after they
eat (how high their glucose level goes).
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Stan
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Posted: 05-12-07 07:54am
No offense, but what the hell kind of food
are you eating for it to jump to 200?
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liz1965
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Posted: 05-12-07 08:39am
Honestly, it doesn't take that much. I
went out to dinner a few weeks ago and had
Mexican food (two enchiladas and some
chips and salsa) and it was 196. (I know,
that was a a horrible set of food choices,
which is rare for me these days.) One
morning I had two eggbeaters, two thin
bacon strips (all protein so far) and a
bowl of instant oatmeal (nonsugared- about
20 grams of carbohydrate) and it was
around 155. A few french fries, which I
don't eat anymore, will put me up around
170 to 180, even if I eat them with a high
protein meal. What's strange is that my
fasting glucose level is normal, so again
I am not diabetic.
Here are my glucose tolerance tests
results (from 2001), which show a similar
pattern.
Fasting = 95
One hour post ingestion = 209
two hours post ingestion = 141
three hours post ingestion = 82 (around
this point I was starting to feel
really sick)
four hours post ingestion = 66
five hours post ingestion = 78
Is this unusual? Perhaps not, but unusual
in the height of the peak and the severity
of the drop?
Thanks,
Liz
p.s. I'm the one who takes Metformin and
Glyset as well as adhering to a strict
diet. My original diagnosis was reactive
hyperinsulinemia (my local
endocrinologist), which was given with no
treatment.
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Stan
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Posted: 05-12-07 12:18pm
Well, it doesn't take much when you eat
caca. No offense, but yet again I must
remind you, if you keep eating like that
you're only doing yourself in. You're
just keeping your body stuck in a high
insulin mode and you'll never see
progress. Even if you slip but once or
twice a week, until you're stable don't
even bother. That reached 196 because you
just ate corn products, which shoot
your glucose through the roof. Bacon,
must I remind you, is cured, that's
means there's sugar in it in some
form. Instant oatmeal must be
avoided, you should only be having whole
grain, I mentioned that before. Don't
even care how many french fries you have,
they're made from potatoes, the worst
vegetable in the world, and they're
fried. The results I've seen before, not
unusual. What are those things you're
taking again, what do they do? If one of
them is an insulin blocker for the love of
freaking god do not eat anything
like you mentioned above because your body
won't be able to handle the strain.
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liz1965
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Posted: 05-12-07 13:42pm
Point taken!
Neither drug is an insulin suppressor.
Metformin makes you use insulin more
effectively (given for insulin
resistance), and Glyset supposedly slows
your absorpion of carbs.
Is the most current version of your diet
from 3/06 (Version ?
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Stan
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Posted: 05-12-07 15:32pm
That one sucks, too extreme, though it did
work. I need to write up another one
soon. I'm not sure if you need better
insulin function since you have too much,
but take what they say.
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geenee25
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Posted: 05-20-07 22:18pm
My brother has diabetes ( sometimes hypog
) and has swings similar to yours Liz,
unfortunalety right now he does not follow
a proper diet and relies on isulin (
forgot the miligrams) 2x a day. Well for a
short time he followed my high protein,
green veggies, nuts, fats and pure cheeses
diet and he started to feel better within
the first 2 weeks ( unlike me he was able
to eat whole grains as well )...stress
would make it low ( he was out of work
then ). Well he started working, and the
diet went out the window...he says it's
too hard. Well you can only imagine all
the swings he gets now.
I on the other hand am reactive hypog,
my blood sugar never goes over 90 after a
meal..and still have rapid drops in the
hour..it goes to about 75 in 2 hours ( i'm
ok ). Before i followed my diet I would
eat complex carbs and would crash quick
from 90 to 70 within an hour...2 hours at
60 I'm dizzy,foggy and look like I'm nuts
. If I went 50 or below I have fainted (
or had something like a seizure ) this
would be hour 3. Today I don't chance it
during day hours. I make sure i have
something every 2 1/2 hours. usually
almonds when I can't have a meal. Other
things that may effect blood sugar ( all
stress ) heat, trying to do to many things
in a day, travel, arguments and worries. I
limit and prepare myself the best i can
for these events. I also take b12, st
johns wort, omega 3 and ginkgo. I do want
to try something for adrenal fatigue. Most
importantly, I take time to meditate, pray
and be grateful.
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Stan
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Posted: 05-21-07 08:50am
I have just the thing, increase your
vitamin c intake to 1-2g per day using a
good supplement. Have you found ginko has
helped your concentration? I sometimes
get this problem, though rarely, and it
would help with my studies if it has
positive effects.
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geenee25
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Posted: 05-22-07 21:52pm
The ginkgo does work for me, and the good
stuff where u actually see the
herbs....not the stuff at the drug store
but the natural foods and health stores
which I'm sure your familiar with. I have
a large client base in my business so I
have to keep my mind sharp, but because of
so many sugar crashes I've felt my memory
isnt so good and I have a hard time
holding a thought. I don't know if you
experience this but when my sugar starts
to lower I feel myself having to
concentrate harder on the things I'm doing
(little mundane things) Now I'm 33 so it
cant be my age. About the vitamin c, I
was taking high dosages of vitamin c, and
i took it mostly in the winter to build up
my immune system , I was curious to know
what else can it do? I was a little afraid
of the acid. Oh and can you please tell me
about chromium..do u recommend it?
So far I'm doing pretty good with my diet
and vitamins...and if there is something
better I'm willing to try it... My big
challenge is I cant handle stress to well
and no matter if I'm eating right or just
ate, stress will send my sugar down
instantly. I don't want to have episodes
in front of people at the wrong times. I
do want to mention that I am a pretty
positive person and I spend a lot of time
preparing myself for the day in meditation
and really making an effort to keep myself
from stress.
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Stan
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Posted: 05-22-07 22:53pm
Stress is definitely a toughy, but vitamin
c can help with that too. Why afraid of
the acid? That's the essential component
of it. I'm not sure why it happens, but
recent studies have shown in a blind test
that 1-2g dosages significantly lower
insulin levels, in addition to building
your adrenals and making stress easier to
deal with.
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ballroomeast
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For Liz1965 Posted: 08-18-08 15:30pm
Liz1965,
I read another post of yours on a
different forum - I have a couple of
questions for you regarding sugar/carbs,
please pm me.
Thank you.
?
. If I went 50 or below I have fainted (
or had something like a seizure ) this
would be hour 3. Today I don't chance it
during day hours. I make sure i have
something every 2 1/2 hours. usually
almonds when I can't have a meal. Other
things that may effect blood sugar ( all
stress ) heat, trying to do to many things
in a day, travel, arguments and worries. I
limit and prepare myself the best i can
for these events. I also take b12, st
johns wort, omega 3 and ginkgo. I do want
to try something for adrenal fatigue. Most
importantly, I take time to meditate, pray
and be grateful. 
