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Q: Why I Had One
asked by: LauraSauer on May 11th, 2007
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Crying or Very sad I had an abortion because I became pregnant by someone who is not my husband. My husband said sure I could keep the baby but that he would never treat it as his own and that everyone including the child and our existing children would know that he/she was not his. What was I supposed to do, I could never carry a child to term and then give it away and at the same time I couldn't keep it and have it be tortured every day of it's life feeling like it wasn't wanted. I wanted it, I would have kept it had I had a choice, it was my baby even if it wasn't his, and I hate myself for not standing up for myself and saying so what?, this is my baby and I'm going to love it no matter how it came to be. It's the one thing in my life I would do differently. I can't believe I let a man control something as important as that. We don't talk about it ever, I think about it so much. I think how old it would be, what it would look like, how much I would love it. I grieve for it everyday, it makes me crazy. I think that abortion should be legal, I just could never do it again. How you feel when you're in that clinic, and I think about the second before the doctor began the procedure how I wanted to tell her to stop. I wish I had. When I was in the bathroom stall afterwards was the worst moment of my life. I guess now I feel like once you have a baby you never regret having them, and now I've even thought that death wouldn't be so bad because I want to believe that we'll be together again. I hate feeling like this and I feel like it will never get any better. My baby would be almost exactly 8 months old today, and I think the pain gets worse everyday. I won't be much help at giving others hope that you forget. I wish so much that I could go back to that day and have something or someone stop me. I guess I hope someone out there is listening and can understand how much suffering I know is ahead of me, I'm only 29 so its going to be so so long to wait for the pain to go away.
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Jules
replied on May 11th, 2007
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I'm so sorry that you're in so much emotional pain from your abortion. I am going to pm you a link to a website that I think will help you.

Also, I am moving this from the abortion debate board because I don't think your story needs to be debated.
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meblonde01
replied on May 11th, 2007
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Re: Why I Had One
LauraSauer wrote:
Crying or Very sad I had an abortion because I became pregnant by someone who is not my husband. My husband said sure I could keep the baby but that he would never treat it as his own and that everyone including the child and our existing children would know that he/she was not his. What was I supposed to do, I could never carry a child to term and then give it away and at the same time I couldn't keep it and have it be tortured every day of it's life feeling like it wasn't wanted. I wanted it, I would have kept it had I had a choice, it was my baby even if it wasn't his, and I hate myself for not standing up for myself and saying so what?, this is my baby and I'm going to love it no matter how it came to be. It's the one thing in my life I would do differently. I can't believe I let a man control something as important as that. We don't talk about it ever, I think about it so much. I think how old it would be, what it would look like, how much I would love it. I grieve for it everyday, it makes me crazy. I think that abortion should be legal, I just could never do it again. How you feel when you're in that clinic, and I think about the second before the doctor began the procedure how I wanted to tell her to stop. I wish I had. When I was in the bathroom stall afterwards was the worst moment of my life. I guess now I feel like once you have a baby you never regret having them, and now I've even thought that death wouldn't be so bad because I want to believe that we'll be together again. I hate feeling like this and I feel like it will never get any better. My baby would be almost exactly 8 months old today, and I think the pain gets worse everyday. I won't be much help at giving others hope that you forget. I wish so much that I could go back to that day and have something or someone stop me. I guess I hope someone out there is listening and can understand how much suffering I know is ahead of me, I'm only 29 so its going to be so so long to wait for the pain to go away.


Oh Laura I know your pain. Please seek some counseling. I will pm you a site that will help you too. Time will help but right now you need more than time. God Bless.
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Tylanas
replied on May 11th, 2007
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Our hearts go out to you! I hope that you will be able to heal.

You are not a bad person... Its very sad when women are forced to make desicions they don't want to make. I really think you do need to talk to your husband about this. He might be completely callous about it, and if he is... that's not right. He shouldn't act that way. Yes, the circumstances of the pregnancy weren't the best, but he had no right to say he'd never love the child or consider it his own. What if he became infertile and you wanted to adopt? Would he never be able to consider that child his own? I don't know if I'm out of my place for saying these things.
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Kypros
replied on May 12th, 2007
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LauraSauer, my heart goes out to you. It's sad that your pregnancy had to end in such a way, despite the way you conceived.

Eiri wrote:
He shouldn't act that way. Yes, the circumstances of the pregnancy weren't the best, but he had no right to say he'd never love the child or consider it his own.

I'm sorry, but I believe he definitely does have the right; his wife was unfaithful and he is not obliged to raise another man's child. If he truthfully knew he wouldn't be able to love the child then he is being very honest indeed (could you imagine if he said nothing and then she had the baby?). I believe everybody has the right to give ultimatums: abort the child and save our marriage or keep the child and lose the marriage. That's fine with me - the woman had to decide what mattered more to her and she chose.
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replied on May 12th, 2007
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Kypros wrote:
LauraSauer, my heart goes out to you. It's sad that your pregnancy had to end in such a way, despite the way you conceived.

Eiri wrote:
He shouldn't act that way. Yes, the circumstances of the pregnancy weren't the best, but he had no right to say he'd never love the child or consider it his own.

I'm sorry, but I believe he definitely does have the right; his wife was unfaithful and he is not obliged to raise another man's child. If he truthfully knew he wouldn't be able to love the child then he is being very honest indeed (could you imagine if he said nothing and then she had the baby?). I believe everybody has the right to give ultimatums: abort the child and save our marriage or keep the child and lose the marriage. That's fine with me - the woman had to decide what mattered more to her and she chose.



That really is pro choice,............... not, you claim eiri isn't pro choice yet claim that a woman can be forced to do what the man wants, you are not pro choice at all.
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Kypros
replied on May 12th, 2007
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cowboys wrote:
Kypros wrote:
LauraSauer, my heart goes out to you. It's sad that your pregnancy had to end in such a way, despite the way you conceived.

Eiri wrote:
He shouldn't act that way. Yes, the circumstances of the pregnancy weren't the best, but he had no right to say he'd never love the child or consider it his own.

I'm sorry, but I believe he definitely does have the right; his wife was unfaithful and he is not obliged to raise another man's child. If he truthfully knew he wouldn't be able to love the child then he is being very honest indeed (could you imagine if he said nothing and then she had the baby?). I believe everybody has the right to give ultimatums: abort the child and save our marriage or keep the child and lose the marriage. That's fine with me - the woman had to decide what mattered more to her and she chose.



That really is pro choice,............... not, you claim eiri isn't pro choice yet claim that a woman can be forced to do what the man wants, you are not pro choice at all.


Well, that just proves you really don't know what pro-choice is Wink. I have never said that Eiri isn't a pro-choicer - you're a liar! I have said, however, that she adheres to views which I consider to be a mix of pro-choice and pro-life.

Secondly, I never said that I agree with coercion into abortion - that was the whole point in my post, dipshit. I said that her husband is not obliged to stay in a marriage and raise a child that is the result of an extramarital affair. I also said that I believe it is fair that he men in this situation issue their wives with an ultimatum - t h a t i s n o t f o r c e. It's called seeing where the loyalties lie. Get the facts straight before you accuse me of things you clearly have no idea about.
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Tylanas
replied on May 13th, 2007
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Kypros wrote:
LauraSauer, my heart goes out to you. It's sad that your pregnancy had to end in such a way, despite the way you conceived.

Eiri wrote:
He shouldn't act that way. Yes, the circumstances of the pregnancy weren't the best, but he had no right to say he'd never love the child or consider it his own.

I'm sorry, but I believe he definitely does have the right; his wife was unfaithful and he is not obliged to raise another man's child. If he truthfully knew he wouldn't be able to love the child then he is being very honest indeed (could you imagine if he said nothing and then she had the baby?). I believe everybody has the right to give ultimatums: abort the child and save our marriage or keep the child and lose the marriage. That's fine with me - the woman had to decide what mattered more to her and she chose.


If he couldn't love it, then he has no right to say "go ahead and give birth to a child I will hate". That's just cruel.
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Kypros
replied on May 14th, 2007
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Eiri wrote:
Kypros wrote:
LauraSauer, my heart goes out to you. It's sad that your pregnancy had to end in such a way, despite the way you conceived.

Eiri wrote:
He shouldn't act that way. Yes, the circumstances of the pregnancy weren't the best, but he had no right to say he'd never love the child or consider it his own.

I'm sorry, but I believe he definitely does have the right; his wife was unfaithful and he is not obliged to raise another man's child. If he truthfully knew he wouldn't be able to love the child then he is being very honest indeed (could you imagine if he said nothing and then she had the baby?). I believe everybody has the right to give ultimatums: abort the child and save our marriage or keep the child and lose the marriage. That's fine with me - the woman had to decide what mattered more to her and she chose.


If he couldn't love it, then he has no right to say "go ahead and give birth to a child I will hate". That's just cruel.


Yeah, that's exactly my point: so he had the right to issue her with an ultimatum (abort and save our marriage or keep the baby and lose our marriage). That's what I've been saying Shocked Everybody keeps misunderstanding me lately.
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fiona05
replied on May 14th, 2007
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Laura, my thoughs are with you. i am very sorry you went through what you went through. i don't think you are a bad person, and i hope you will come to see this. i hope that in time you will find healing.

this topic has gone a bit 'off topic'. i think that what kypros said has been twisted a bit. i see what he is saying. i'm sure knowing your wife has had an affair and dealing with that in itself must be a pretty difficult thing. to have to see and raise a baby that was conceived with another man must be like a kick in the stomach every day. for him to admit he would never be able to love the child is a very honest thing.

however that is not to say i condone what her husband said and did. it may have been honest but it was cruel and it was heartless. it represents what a lot of people would feel though.

i think people place far too much emphasis on having a child that is 'their own'. though i can understand this wish (it is a rather primal thing) i think it is wrong. a child cannot be held responsible or accountable for who its parents are. i think a person who will not love a child simply because it is not their own flesh and blood is selfish.

when people are trying to conceive, if you ask them why they say 'i want a baby'. the term 'i want'. it should not be about wanting, but about what is for the better good. i think that tyring for a baby simply because you 'want' a baby is an immoral thing to do in this day and age. me and my partner both believe this. the world is overpopulated. there are so many children that need to be adopted and/or fostered. to adopt or foster would be a wonderful thing to do. it's my opinion, anyway.

wow i just went even further off topic. to return to it... Laura, i think this is too much for you to have to deal with yourself. i think you should look into getting counselling (maybe group councelling for women in similar situations?) . i hope you learn to come to terms with your loss.
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