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Marc209

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Physical Abuse And Stunted Growth
Posted: 05-10-07 08:47am

In middle school and high school I was beat up constantly. I'm not talking every other day, I'm talking every day. I was wondering if this could have stunted my growth. I have read that kids that were physically abused at home are usually shorter. I have also read about something called the Luficier Principal, in which the bully gets a testosterone surge from abusing the victim, and the victim's testosterone actually lowers.

What do you think?
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futurelovers

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Posted: 05-13-07 17:27pm

Sorry to hear that happened to you.

Yes, unfortunately - that may be true. Any kind of abuse (physical or mental) can affect how your body develops. Stress, anxiety, depression, and any other mental condition while growing up may indeed affect your growth.
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Marc209

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Posted: 06-11-07 15:33pm

How does it affect growth?

I know that stress can lower gh and extra cortisol that is produced can lower testosterone. But isn't cortisol only release as a "fight or flight" response? Is it released when you are upset too?
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writer58

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Stunted Growth
Posted: 05-18-08 19:13pm

At age 50, I finally realized why I was the shortest male in my family.

My best friend's son is being raged on by his mother at present. He is 12, has ADD and won't do his homework which worsening the stress on him. His father is attempting to address the situation. I'm being as helpful as possible without overstepping my bounds. His doctor told him recently that he is below average in height, and not growing as he should. That and the comments here raised a red flag about my past.

I'm 5'8" tall, the shortest male in my immediate family. Food was always available in our household, but not much sugar or salt. My parents were negligent, father beating me often, mother ignoring my needs, not defending against attackers at school and home, and ruining any fun times.

Empirically, this is as close a description as I can give.

I have three brothers who were very successful socially and only had occasional attacks by my father, none in school as far as I know, and fed the same food as myself.

Father is 5'11". Single child upbringing, no violence against him.
Brother #1 is 5'11" and had a low-anxiety childhood. No Children.
Brother #2 is 6'1" and had anxiety at times but had a violence disorder and was not anxious very much. He did not attack his sons until after their growth was complete.
Brother #3 is 6'0" and had some stress but lacks sensitivity.

Brother #2 raised two sons with a loving wife, both are about 6'0".
Brother #3 is a bully and raised his two sons too strictly. They are 5'7" and 5'9" respectively.

This all leads me to believe that the hypotheses offered are true
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K19

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Posted: 05-18-08 22:30pm

Yes this is true, I had the most miserable childhood a human can imagine, I am 5'6 and my dad and brother are both 6 foot



I get rewarded now in my disgusting miserable existance sooner or later I will die from all the stress I put upon myself, I only hope it happens after my dog dies so I can drink myself to death or do drugs so that way I can enjoy some fun sometime in my life, but most likely I will die before my dog dies, a life of misery and pain, my mom always said she tried to kill me when I was inside of her, it is a f----g shame she wasnt successful, I am living proof of why abortion should be legal and encouraged
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writer58

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Emotional and physical abuse
Posted: 05-19-08 20:28pm

K19, the dog is the first step to recovery and I'm glad you've taken it. Your dog loves you unconditionally and that's a good start. The next step is to get some antidepressants that work, which may require trying more than a few for best results. The lost height cannot be regained unless you're under 20 or so and still developing. Then you could get growth hormones. Some have claimed that human growth homone (HGH) gives a feeling of well-being. Ask you doctor about that. After the anti-depressants start working, I can only suggest joining a self-help group with a positive program of treatment involving rebuilding your life. Private counseling did me wonders and I've disowned the abusive people in my life. There is a light at the end of the tunnel.
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K19

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Re: Emotional and physical abuse
Posted: 05-19-08 21:33pm

writer58 wrote:
K19, the dog is the first step to recovery and I'm glad you've taken it. Your dog loves you unconditionally and that's a good start. The next step is to get some antidepressants that work, which may require trying more than a few for best results. The lost height cannot be regained unless you're under 20 or so and still developing. Then you could get growth hormones. Some have claimed that human growth homone (HGH) gives a feeling of well-being. Ask you doctor about that. After the anti-depressants start working, I can only suggest joining a self-help group with a positive program of treatment involving rebuilding your life. Private counseling did me wonders and I've disowned the abusive people in my life. There is a light at the end of the tunnel.



actually my dog is more or less my main problem, I got him about 8 years and have been basically a shitty owner, he got his leg amputated last year and it was basically my fault more or less

He has other problems that are probably my fault because I didnt take care of him better, now it is a waiting game, I dont have it in me to put him to sleep or give him a way, so now I wait to see who goes first me or my dog, if I didnt have my dog it would probably be a big burden lifted off me but I just dont have it in me to give him a way
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KateDo

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Physical Abuse and Stunted Growth
Posted: 06-03-08 17:55pm

WOW!! have you helped me!! "Luficier Principal" never heard of it, off to research!! I think you have provided an answer to the behavior of someone I loved.

It was never the physical abuse that did me in, it was the words! They still walk around with me.

Very best wishes for a better life. I'm off to research the LP. Thank you very much!
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