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Abortions Questions.
Posted: 05-09-07 07:34am

This is directed to pro choicer

If you where pregnant and you knew the baby was deformed would you about?

If you where pregnant and you knew the baby would have some health problems would you abort it?

If you where pregnant and you knew the baby would be a down syndrome child, would you abort it?

For what medical reason would you abort?
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Posted: 05-09-07 07:40am

Well for me i do consider myself pro-choice but i do have some pro-life veiws. I am pregnant so i will tell you what i would do.
1. Deformities wouldn't matter to me.
2. If the health problems were very severe, and would mean that the child would have very little chance of survival out of the womb i would consider abortion but i think i could only make that dicision if i was put in the position.
3. I would not abort if i found out my child had down's syndrome.
4. If either myself or the child would not survive the pregnancy and/or birth.
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Posted: 05-09-07 07:59am

Haven't we answered these in multiple threads already? Ok.. pay attention this time..

1. Yes, I would abort a deformed fetus.. at this stage of my life I'd abort any fetus/ embryo though.

2. See above.

3. See above

4. Know your subject a bit before dramatization for propaganda purposes please. go to Fetal Abnormalities and go about 2/3 the way down the page; there are many links to lethal chromosonal abnormalities and pictures of fetal victims to show you what you are actually talking about.
Go view those then come back here and we can discuss your question about defects.. in all 4 of its repetitive parts.

One of the more notable aspects of Down syndrome is the wide variety of features and characteristics of people with trisomy 21:( Trisomy 21: Down syndrome; incidence based upon maternal age, though translocation type is familial; features can include: epicanthal folds, simian crease, brachycephaly, cardiac defects)

There is a wide range of mental retardation and developmental delay noted among children with Down syndrome.
Some babies are born with heart defects and others aren't. Some children have associated illnesses such as epilepsy, hypothyroidism or celiac disease, and others don't.
The first possible reason is the difference in the genes that are triplicated. As I mentioned above, genes can come in different alternate forms, called "alleles." The effect of overexpression of genes may depend on which allele is present in the person with trisomy 21. The second reason that might be involved is called "penetrance." If one allele causes a condition to be present in some people but not others, that is called "variable penetrance," and that appears to be what happens with trisomy 21: the alleles don't do the same thing to every person who has it. Both reasons may be why there is such variation in children and adults with Down syndrome.
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Posted: 05-09-07 08:13am

Jincks013 wrote:
Haven't we answered these in multiple threads already? Ok.. pay attention this time..

1. Yes, I would abort a deformed fetus.. at this stage of my life I'd abort any fetus/ embryo though.

2. See above.

3. See above

4. Know your subject a bit before dramatization for propaganda purposes please. go to Fetal Abnormalities and go about 2/3 the way down the page; there are many links to lethal chromosonal abnormalities and pictures of fetal victims to show you what you are actually talking about.
Go view those then come back here and we can discuss your question about defects.. in all 4 of its repetitive parts.

One of the more notable aspects of Down syndrome is the wide variety of features and characteristics of people with trisomy 21:( Trisomy 21: Down syndrome; incidence based upon maternal age, though translocation type is familial; features can include: epicanthal folds, simian crease, brachycephaly, cardiac defects)

There is a wide range of mental retardation and developmental delay noted among children with Down syndrome.
Some babies are born with heart defects and others aren't. Some children have associated illnesses such as epilepsy, hypothyroidism or celiac disease, and others don't.
The first possible reason is the difference in the genes that are triplicated. As I mentioned above, genes can come in different alternate forms, called "alleles." The effect of overexpression of genes may depend on which allele is present in the person with trisomy 21. The second reason that might be involved is called "penetrance." If one allele causes a condition to be present in some people but not others, that is called "variable penetrance," and that appears to be what happens with trisomy 21: the alleles don't do the same thing to every person who has it. Both reasons may be why there is such variation in children and adults with Down syndrome.


not sure if I was a memeber then all these where answer before... so I guess your rude comment " Pay Attention does not apply.
Pay attention to a persons join date might apply to you!
But thanks for a nice attitude.. Wink
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Posted: 05-09-07 08:19am

Which means you did not in fact look at any actual information posted in response to your 'questions' all four rephrases of the same question. Get informed then come back and we'll talk.
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Posted: 05-09-07 08:22am

Jincks013 wrote:
Which means you did not in fact look at any actual information posted in response to your 'questions' all four rephrases of the same question. Get informed then come back and we'll talk.


I care not to talk to you.. I'll get imformed and talk else where..Or just sort of bye pass you! You are rude!
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Posted: 05-09-07 08:26am

Dannzibelle wrote:
Well for me i do consider myself pro-choice but i do have some pro-life veiws. I am pregnant so i will tell you what i would do.
1. Deformities wouldn't matter to me.
2. If the health problems were very severe, and would mean that the child would have very little chance of survival out of the womb i would consider abortion but i think i could only make that dicision if i was put in the position.
3. I would not abort if i found out my child had down's syndrome.
4. If either myself or the child would not survive the pregnancy and/or birth.


Thank You Dannzibelle for you imput!
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Posted: 05-09-07 08:30am

meblonde01 wrote:
Jincks013 wrote:
Which means you did not in fact look at any actual information posted in response to your 'questions' all four rephrases of the same question. Get informed then come back and we'll talk.


I care not to talk to you.. I'll get imformed and talk else where..Or just sort of bye pass you! You are rude!


I am not to to allow you to engage me in a question of rudeness given the normal tone of your posts and complete hipocrisy. But you will continue to respond, like an addict, because you can't stand to not have 'the last word' but before you post anymore drivel about abnormalities take some time to get to know your topic.
This is a debate forum, argueing fetal abnormalities from an uninformed viewpoint is flat irresponsible.
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Re: Abortions Questions.
Posted: 05-09-07 13:29pm

meblonde01 wrote:
This is directed to pro choicer

If you where pregnant and you knew the baby was deformed would you about?

If you where pregnant and you knew the baby would have some health problems would you abort it?

If you where pregnant and you knew the baby would be a down syndrome child, would you abort it?

For what medical reason would you abort?

It would depend upon a few factors - situation at the time but theoretically

If deformity then yes I would abort, foetal health problems yes and downs yes I would.
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Re: Abortions Questions.
Posted: 05-09-07 13:57pm

Moo wrote:
meblonde01 wrote:
This is directed to pro choicer

If you where pregnant and you knew the baby was deformed would you about?

If you where pregnant and you knew the baby would have some health problems would you abort it?

If you where pregnant and you knew the baby would be a down syndrome child, would you abort it?

For what medical reason would you abort?

It would depend upon a few factors - situation at the time but theoretically

If deformity then yes I would abort, foetal health problems yes and downs yes I would.


so if you did not know your child had these problems and it was born, then what kill it because it wasn't what you expected? Or would you give it away? Or would you just love it and be it's mother? And if you would just love it and be it's mother why couldn't you do that when it was growing inside of it's mother??
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Re: Abortions Questions.
Posted: 05-09-07 14:03pm

meblonde01 wrote:

so if you did not know your child had these problems and it was born, then what kill it because it wasn't what you expected? Or would you give it away? Or would you just love it and be it's mother? And if you would just love it and be it's mother why couldn't you do that when it was growing inside of it's mother??

I will be having the relevant tests for any pregnancy I continue so this is all theoretical.
If it were born with downs or a similar serious problem then I wuold give it up for adoption, yes.
Of course I wouldn't kill it, I'm pro-choice I don't "support" infanticide or homicide for goodness sake.
Chances are with anything I would abort because of if I only found out after birth adoption would (theoretically) be the option for me.
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Posted: 05-09-07 14:33pm

If my child's deformities would make life impossible, improbable or otherwise exceedingly difficult, yes. I love my child enough to not force them to suffer through that.

If my child would have some quality of life, no. I love my child enough to work with them and comfort them for as long as they would need me.

I am pro-choice. Another woman's decision is her own. This does not mean I favor abortion - it means I favor choice and freedom.
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Re: Abortions Questions.
Posted: 05-09-07 15:34pm

meblonde01 wrote:
This is directed to pro choicer

If you where pregnant and you knew the baby was deformed would you about?


It would depend on the severity of the deformity. If death was inveitable, I would probably abort. If there was a good chance of a life with quality or recovery through surgery, I might keep.

Quote:
If you where pregnant and you knew the baby would have some health problems would you abort it?


Again, it would depend. If the problems would make it have no good quality of life and it would just be a vegetable, then I would abort.

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If you where pregnant and you knew the baby would be a down syndrome child, would you abort it?


Downs syndrom is tricky. I know a person who has a mild case of it and they are fine. I think I would give it a chance.

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For what medical reason would you abort?


If I was going to die or become handicapped. If the fetus would be determined to die.
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Posted: 05-09-07 22:56pm

Dannzibelle wrote:
Well for me i do consider myself pro-choice but i do have some pro-life veiws. I am pregnant so i will tell you what i would do.
1. Deformities wouldn't matter to me.
2. If the health problems were very severe, and would mean that the child would have very little chance of survival out of the womb i would consider abortion but i think i could only make that dicision if i was put in the position.
3. I would not abort if i found out my child had down's syndrome.
4. If either myself or the child would not survive the pregnancy and/or birth.


It is great to know that there are still people around that believe every child deserves a chance deformed or not. I thikn if my child was born deformed i would love it more. It would be special but if it had serious risk and the baby would die after i had it i would. but if i had to choose my life or my childs i would choose mine. I have had enough of life. Why not let my child kno that i made the ultimate sacrafice for it.
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Posted: 05-09-07 23:15pm

so if you did not know your child had these problems and it was born, then what kill it because it wasn't what you expected?


What? You want me to kill a post birth baby? Aren't you supposed to be Pro-fetal-life?oo.. got it.. fetal. This hypothethical baby has already been born so it doesn't matter to you.
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Posted: 05-10-07 06:16am

Jincks013 wrote:
so if you did not know your child had these problems and it was born, then what kill it because it wasn't what you expected?


What? You want me to kill a post birth baby? Aren't you supposed to be Pro-fetal-life?oo.. got it.. fetal. This hypothethical baby has already been born so it doesn't matter to you.


I did not say I wanted you to do anything I was asking a question.. Get it?
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Re: Abortions Questions.
Posted: 05-10-07 12:25pm

meblonde01 wrote:
This is directed to pro choicer

If you where pregnant and you knew the baby was deformed would you about?

If you where pregnant and you knew the baby would have some health problems would you abort it?

If you where pregnant and you knew the baby would be a down syndrome child, would you abort it?

For what medical reason would you abort?


All I see is the beginning of the phrase..."If you were pregnant" and then my automatic answer is "I would abort". I have no business being a pregnant woman right now.

If I were in a position to (gack) be pregnant (I think I just tasted a little vomit) and knew there were serious fetal health issues, I would have a very difficult time deciding what to do. It would really depend on the exact nature of the problem.

Why did you have your abortion, meblonde01? Fetal abnormalities or were you just "irresponsible"?*

(*For those of you just tuning in and are not familiar with meblonde01's feelings on abortions, abortions are done by women who should "just deal with it" and not be "irresponsible". She also had an abortion. I just didn't want anyone to think I was being too harsh. Unless you think being too harsh is throwing her words right back at her. And if that's the case, go take a hike.) Wink
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Re: Abortions Questions.
Posted: 05-10-07 13:24pm

Birch writes:

Why did you have your abortion, meblonde01? Fetal abnormalities or were you just "irresponsible"?*

(*For those of you just tuning in and are not familiar with meblonde01's feelings on abortions, abortions are done by women who should "just deal with it" and not be "irresponsible". She also had an abortion. I just didn't want anyone to think I was being too harsh. Unless you think being too harsh is throwing her words right back at her. And if that's the case, go take a hike.) Wink[/quote]

Now birch,is this abortion debating or someone just being nasty like I once said? I rest my case. Razz


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Re: Abortions Questions.
Posted: 05-10-07 13:33pm

meblonde01 wrote:
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Why did you have your abortion, meblonde01? Fetal abnormalities or were you just "irresponsible"?*

(*For those of you just tuning in and are not familiar with meblonde01's feelings on abortions, abortions are done by women who should "just deal with it" and not be "irresponsible". She also had an abortion. I just didn't want anyone to think I was being too harsh. Unless you think being too harsh is throwing her words right back at her. And if that's the case, go take a hike.) Wink


now, is this abortion debating, or someone just being nasty like I once said? I rest my case!! Razz


You are so bad at using the quote button...

Anyway, yes, it is debating. She's debating your opinion that all women who abort are irresponsible idiots. So go ahead and respond. Remember you have to include yourself among those irresponsible idiots though. Also, my mother, my fiancee's mother... carifairy... and many, many wonderful young women throughout the world. Go on now. Condemn them.
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Re: Abortions Questions.
Posted: 05-10-07 13:37pm

Eiri wrote:
meblonde01 wrote:
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Why did you have your abortion, meblonde01? Fetal abnormalities or were you just "irresponsible"?*

(*For those of you just tuning in and are not familiar with meblonde01's feelings on abortions, abortions are done by women who should "just deal with it" and not be "irresponsible". She also had an abortion. I just didn't want anyone to think I was being too harsh. Unless you think being too harsh is throwing her words right back at her. And if that's the case, go take a hike.) Wink


now, is this abortion debating, or someone just being nasty like I once said? I rest my case!! Razz


You are so bad at using the quote button...

Anyway, yes, it is debating. She's debating your opinion that all women who abort are irresponsible idiots. So go ahead and respond. Remember you have to include yourself among those irresponsible idiots though. Also, my mother, my fiancee's mother... carifairy... and many, many wonderful young women throughout the world. Go on now. Condemn them.


never called them idiots. That's your favorite word..
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