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This is not a big surprise to me. Sexual intercourse is an inherrent need common to all humans. It feels good and we are programmed to continue our species, which is why people feel the urge to do it. Spending millions of tax dollars on this type of cr*p instead of providing contraception to teens seems like a crime to me. Who loses in this study? the teens who got pregnant. Just another thing to thank our illustrious government for.

Abstinence education doesn't work: US
April 15, 2007 - 2:09PM

Abstinence-only education programs meant to teach children to avoid sex until marriage failed to control their sexual behaviour, according to a US government report.

Teenagers who took part in the programs as primary and middle school students were just as likely to have sex as those who did not take part in them, the survey found.

The report, ordered by Congress, was not released by the Health and Human Services Department, but by activists and by California Democratic Rep. Henry Waxman's office. An HHS spokeswoman did not answer a request for a comment.

The report revived the debate on government abstinence-only education programs, which are strongly supported by the administration of President George W. Bush.

"For both the program and control group youth, the reported mean age at first intercourse was identical, 14.9 years," says the report, available on the internet at http://aspe.hhs.gov/hsp/abstinence07/index .htm.

Teens in both groups were just as likely to use condoms or birth control, the report found - countering the fears of critics of abstinence-only education, who say children ignorant of how to protect themselves from pregnancy and sexually transmitted diseases will simply have more unprotected sex.

For the report, Christopher Trenholm and colleagues at Mathematica Policy Research, Inc. interviewed more than 2,000 teenagers with an average age of 16 1/2. They lived in rural and urban communities in Florida, Wisconsin, Mississippi and Virginia.

About 1,200 of them had taken part in abstinence-only education programs four to six years before.

"Over the last 12 months, 23 per cent of both groups reported having had sex and always using a condom; 17 per cent of both groups reported having had sex and only sometimes using a condom; and 4 per cent of both groups reported having had sex and never using a condom," the researchers wrote.

"Program and control group youth also did not differ in the number of partners with whom they had sex," they added.

About 25 per cent in both groups had already had sex with three or more partners.

"This data supports what a growing body of public health evidence has indicated: Abstinence-only programs don't protect teen health," said Waxman, chairman of the House of Representatives Government Oversight Committee.

"In short, American taxpayers appear to have paid over one billion federal dollars for programs that have no impact."

The report said the federal government has spent $87.5 million annually since 1998 for abstinence-only education programs.

Activists said the findings showed that children need more comprehensive education about abstinence, contraception and sex in general.

"The vast majority of the public does not see abstinence and contraception as an either/or proposition - they want teens to be informed of both," Sarah Brown, Executive Director of the National Campaign to Prevent Teen Pregnancy, said in a statement.

"We have been promoting ignorance in the era of AIDS, and that's not just bad public health policy, its bad ethics," added James Wagoner, president of Advocates for Youth.

But proponents of abstinence-only education said the report just suggested more such education is needed.

"To the contrary, the report specifically indicates that programs should continue with changes where necessary to make them more effective, particularly 'promoting support for abstinence among peer networks' as an important feature." said Dr. Gary Rose, president of The Medical Institute.
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replied May 7th, 2007
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It is well known that abstinence only education is ineffective. And illogical. And potentially negligent.

Oh my god, I came across this site, you absolutely have to check it out, it is god*amn hysterical:

http://www.sexisforfags.com/
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replied May 7th, 2007
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i don't care for about us but as for "my" future family respects I will teach abstinence to my kids. No sex until they are ready to face an unplanned pregnancy. I will teach them about the available birth control options of course particulary if I see they are dumb enough (if they happen to be bright and smart like me, they will learn all that before I ever say anything).
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Birch wrote:
It is well known that abstinence only education is ineffective. And illogical. And potentially negligent.

Oh my god, I came across this site, you absolutely have to check it out, it is god*amn hysterical:

http://www.sexisforfags.com/


.O.M.G. Birch lmao! That is soooo hilarious! I am getting an iron hymen t-shirt if it kills me!!!!
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Birch wrote:
It is well known that abstinence only education is ineffective. And illogical. And potentially negligent.


birch btw you know that is not true Wink
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nightangel73 wrote:
Birch wrote:
It is well known that abstinence only education is ineffective. And illogical. And potentially negligent.

Oh my god, I came across this site, you absolutely have to check it out, it is god*amn hysterical:

http://www.sexisforfags.com/


birch btw you know that is not true Wink


lmao that's a hilarious site Wink
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Eiri wrote:
nightangel73 wrote:
Birch wrote:
It is well known that abstinence only education is ineffective. And illogical. And potentially negligent.

Oh my god, I came across this site, you absolutely have to check it out, it is god*amn hysterical:

http://www.sexisforfags.com/


birch btw you know that is not true Wink


lmao that's a hilarious site Wink



to me it really is a very boring site..but that's because i'm past being a teenager long long time ago..
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nightangel73 wrote:
Eiri wrote:
nightangel73 wrote:
Birch wrote:
It is well known that abstinence only education is ineffective. And illogical. And potentially negligent.

Oh my god, I came across this site, you absolutely have to check it out, it is god*amn hysterical:

http://www.sexisforfags.com/


birch btw you know that is not true Wink


lmao that's a hilarious site Wink



to me it really is a very boring site..but that's because i'm past being a teenager long long time ago..


I'm 22, but that doesn't mean I don't find it humerous. Losing humor is sad.
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Hell I'm 38 and I found it funny.
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replied May 8th, 2007
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nightangel73 wrote:
Birch wrote:
It is well known that abstinence only education is ineffective. And illogical. And potentially negligent.


birch btw you know that is not true Wink


Reaaaaaaaaaly? Wink

C'mon, you got to think the phrase "thirsty little albino penises" in reference to tampons is funny.
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replied July 1st, 2007
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nightangel73 wrote:
i don't care for about us but as for "my" future family respects I will teach abstinence to my kids. No sex until they are ready to face an unplanned pregnancy. I will teach them about the available birth control options of course particulary if I see they are dumb enough (if they happen to be bright and smart like me, they will learn all that before I ever say anything).



obviously, you are not smart if you think that your kids will follow everything you taught them especially when it comes to sex and abstinence.
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replied July 2nd, 2007
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haliparot wrote:
nightangel73 wrote:
i don't care for about us but as for "my" future family respects I will teach abstinence to my kids. No sex until they are ready to face an unplanned pregnancy. I will teach them about the available birth control options of course particulary if I see they are dumb enough (if they happen to be bright and smart like me, they will learn all that before I ever say anything).



obviously, you are not smart if you think that your kids will follow everything you taught them especially when it comes to sex and abstinence.


of course there is always a chance they will not do what you say. So?
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replied July 2nd, 2007
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so so sad. Gone are the days when someone would think enough of their future spouse to save themself for him/her.
I did. And %100 no regrets.
Is there anyone in this forum with morals?


Anyone?...........
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replied July 2nd, 2007
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Actually, I'm planning on being a born again virgin on my wedding night. Wink
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replied July 2nd, 2007
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Why on earth would you want to go back and do it all over again?? Very Happy
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I saved myself for love. I've got absolutely no regrets. I'm not with him anymore, but my experiences with him make me feel very confident for my next lover.
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I would not have wanted to be a virgin on my wedding night. It may be different for men but for .women, the first time hurts, generally a lot. I would not have wanted to be crying on my wedding night because I was unprepared for the pain. I would not have wanted my husband to be confused or terrified that he was hurting me (which he would have been had I been a virgin). I would not have wanted to have that hanging over my wedding night or remember my wedding night so negatively.

I do not regret having sex when I did and I had a fabulous experience on my wedding night.

Just because we did not follow the same path that you did does not mean we do not have morals. Rolling Eyes
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milletics wrote:
so so sad. Gone are the days when someone would think enough of their future spouse to save themself for him/her.
I did. And %100 no regrets.
Is there anyone in this forum with morals?


Anyone?...........


congratulations! i commend you for holding up to marriage. I did not but i wanted to. Problem was that the husband to be came much much much later than what I projected so given the circumstance I couldn't wait that long.

but don't be surprised to be of the few, if not the only here, as few are the ones who follow the narrow road in life.
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nightangel73 wrote:
few are the ones who follow the narrow road in life.


Thankfully....I prefer to be not so narrow.
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replied July 3rd, 2007
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The intactness of my hymen on a day when I sign a legal contract has not a thing to do with my morality or worth.
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