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Q: Feel a Bit Down
asked by: karl-i on May 5th, 2007
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Hi,

Well I feel more than "a bit" down, but after reading some other peoples problems it makes my situation feel a bit minute. Basically I have been feeling depressed for about 3 years, although I try to cover it up and sometimes I have my days when I'm happy. It started when my brother came to live with us after university, because my mum was having financial trouble, he said he would manage my mums money, but it all went pear-shaped, he was being tight fisted and aggressive over the money and so we had to force him to leave, but during his stay I looked up to him, he used to give me advice (even though he was a hypocrite a lot of the time) and I followed it and then after he left, I tried to take on responsibilities of helping my mum, I was 17 at the time and still immature, but after all of this I started to become more mature, and this is what has got me down.

I just don't fit in anymore, I've become too mature too quick, and I feel like I don't have much in common with most people my age (I am 20 now) most people want to go out clubbing and drinking, I went through a phase of clubbing for about a few months while my brother was here, and then stopped, I've lost all my friends apart from one and my last girlfriend was when I was 17. I live in a poor household, and I have to travel far to go to college, where I study information technology, no one at college speaks to me, I have spoken to them and I will speak to them now and again (I'm not afraid to speak) and they have tried to speak to me, but I just feel like there is a barrier telling me not to hang around with them or get to know them because they don't sound like I could get along with them properly. For example, I am a Vegetarian, I have been since I was 4, I also have what you might consider high moral and ethical standards, which I'm proud of in one way, but it makes me lonely, because say I meet some people, and one of them is always making racist jokes, I will immediately decide that I don't want to know him, because he must be a racist. Or if I'm with someone and they are all for the Iraq war, I wont want to know them, because I have very conflicting views. Because of my views or for who I am, I feel like people might think I'm weird and so I don't tell them, and therefore I don't talk much around people, unless I think they wont judge me or if I think they have similar views. Stupid I guess. Also, I've lived at my current house for 4 years, and I don't know a single person in my town. I moved from a city which is where I travel to go to college to this town, and yeah, don't know anybody.

So anyway, recently I've been going out a bit more, and met some people, but instead of being me, I tried to fit in, and follow the crowd, but I didn't really want to do it, because it's not really me. And I met some girls, and they had an interest in me (it's kind of weird, because I went from no girls having any interest in me, to having 3) but then as I was getting to know them and they were getting to know me, they have kind of slowly faded away, and now I'm back to having no girls interested in me. but the girlfriend problem is worse, because when I go out, I see couples, walking holding hands or kissing, I get so down because I don't have that comfort, all I have is me, and I hate me so I'm kinda screwed. And it's not real good when someone asks me if I know this person or that person from where I live, because I say "nah I don't really know anyone" and then they think I'm even weirder.

I also hate the way I look so I'm just gonna grow my hair long to cover it over my face, I have some kind of slight skin condition, well I have two, one I think is hives, although it's not very serious, and the other is acne which also isn't serious, but it still takes down my self esteem. I try to keep fit, I do press ups and crunches and weights. I'm just rambling here, I don't even know what I'm looking for, I suppose I just need somewhere to vent my depression. But just to finish this, I don't feel suicidal, although I have thought of ways I could kill myself, but only briefly. I wouldn't care if I died tomorrow, because life has treated me badly, not as badly as some people, but still pretty bad.

This depression has been only getting worse and worse and I have been taking days off at college (have taken 2 weeks off at one time) due to it. I would go to see the doctor, but I feel like he's not very professional and I don't really know how a doctor can help how I feel. I don't know what to do.

Karl
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karl-i
replied on May 7th, 2007
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I think I might be having anxiety attacks too, I keep getting this hollow feeling in my chest and my heart beats harder and I start to breathe harder, it usually happens when I dwell on things.

I feel so lonely and alone, I have my family, but I don't really feel like they are interested in me. Sometimes I just want to cry, but I've held back tears so many times that I find it hard to cry anymore.

I don't know what I can do, I feel like no one is listening to me and that no one really cares and I just wanna sleep all the time to take my mind off of things.

I'm bored too, I never have anything to do, all I have to do is think to myself, and it just makes me worse.

Karl
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Spirit
replied on May 8th, 2007
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Karl,

Nothing wrong with maturing too fast or coming from a poor household...................some of the great thinkers/poet/comedians came from such circumstances. Clubbing and drinking are a waste of time and money...........people use it as a way to socialize but it's not the only way.............since your passionate about certain views why not get out and help.................help disadvantaged youth..............join an anti war rally................anything. You do have something to offer if only a point of view or a friendly ear...............it'll get you out and doing something positive............and help with socializing with people that share the same views.

Having high moral and ethical standards are nice.............but be careful you are not "judging" and putting up impossible barriers for people to overcome..................people for the most part are good however it takes awhile to get through the initial bs talk to get to the real person....................you may be slightly depressed but the main problem is lonliness..................get out and start talking....................and remember most people "love" talking about themselves not you................you have to show interest to get it back! Smile
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karl-i
replied on May 12th, 2007
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Spirit wrote:
Karl,

Nothing wrong with maturing too fast or coming from a poor household...................some of the great thinkers/poet/comedians came from such circumstances. Clubbing and drinking are a waste of time and money...........people use it as a way to socialize but it's not the only way.............since your passionate about certain views why not get out and help.................help disadvantaged youth..............join an anti war rally................anything. You do have something to offer if only a point of view or a friendly ear...............it'll get you out and doing something positive............and help with socializing with people that share the same views.

Having high moral and ethical standards are nice.............but be careful you are not "judging" and putting up impossible barriers for people to overcome..................people for the most part are good however it takes awhile to get through the initial bs talk to get to the real person....................you may be slightly depressed but the main problem is lonliness..................get out and start talking....................and remember most people "love" talking about themselves not you................you have to show interest to get it back! Smile


Well the past few days I've been going out to try and meet people, but I find it so hard because of my low self esteem, as an example, I will be talking to someone and analysing everything, from their facial expressions to their replies, and I'll be looking for something that tells me that the person is judging me or that they disagree but they don't want to say, and then I put myself down inside my head, like I'll think that they hate me, or that they think I'm stupid or something like that and I can't stop doing it. The thing is, is that I'm very good at picking these things up and so I find it difficult to disagree with my analysis.

I've had this problem for quite a while, but not only have I been analysing people, I've been doing it with everything, like myself, like (and I know this is gonna sound real weird) the way I walk, I'll be thinking to myself that I'm not walking properly and I'll try and change my walk like I'll lessen my stride or I'll put my hands in my pockets and think that that's not right, so I'll take one out (But making it look casual), then as another example, I'll just be walking down a road and someone will be on the same side of the road as me walking towards me, and they'll cross over, and I'll be thinking to myself of some of the possible reasons that the person crossed, and usually come to the conclusion that they crossed because I was ahead of them, which is probably about right because when this particular scenario comes about, I'm usually wearing a hoodie top. And so they probably think I'm going to mug them or something. I know I shouldn't really care, and I should just ignore it, but I can't. And it's just going to make me less sociable and depressed.

Is this some kind of vanity problem I have or something?
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Spirit
replied on May 13th, 2007
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Congrats for making a small step in the right direction! Nobody says you have to turn into Brad Pitt or Mr Sparkling Personality overnight................and yeah of course people are judging you...........it's part of human nature...............we all do it.................we size up the situation and act accordingly.....................someone gorgeous approaches you..................you think "oh they're stuck up.........they think they're too good for me".....................and the "hoodie"..............sorry man, I'd probably cross the street too,lol............it's self preservation..............there's numerous examples
point is, don't let it get to you...............sure there's tons of stuff you can do to clean up but your inner core is still you and you want people to accept that................it's not vanity but like you said before............low self esteem...................lack of confidence.......................keep practicing and my suggestion is to "work" on the same people as this gives them the chance to get to know you and understand your little "quirks"

I think the bigger issue is that you don't have anything real going for you right now................and this makes you look for validation in other people...............it's time to get real goals and the rest will follow......and........"Goals that are not written down are just wishes"............so write em down Smile
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forestfox
replied on June 7th, 2009
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Hey Karl,

sorry to hear you haven't been feeling so well; you said you don't know how a doctor might help you and I know what you mean; when I felt just like you did - always dwelling on things, overanalysing, thinking people didn't really like me - I felt kinda hopeless and so thought, too, that I didn't know how a doctor might help. But this is the depression making you think like that. I went to see athe doctor and am now getting some counselling and at first I found it hard, because I didn't want to talk about my problems and got upset every time, but slowly I feel I am getting better and stating to enjoy life again. And, best of all, I am starting to actually want to be me.

It is always difficult at first when things look bleak and depression puts a negative spin on everything. It isn't even always crying or being down in the dumps, sometimes it is just feeling terribly bored and like nothing's ever going to change. But as you take the first steps this will gradually lift and you will become more hopeful. Please get some help, you deserve it. It doesn't matter if you think you're not as depressed as some other people; everyone has a right to be happy and live to their full potential and that includes you.

Oh and I know what you mean with finding it hard to make friends - sometimes we want to find somebody who will understand us completely, because we feel alone with our problem and like on one has ever been in the same situation. But don't despair; try not to be too picky and get to know people, maybe then you will find the gems, or maybe they will introduce you to somebody who you'll really like? Also, I think what the other poster said is a really good idea, if you feel your values might make for good common ground then join a group where those values count. Volunteering for a charity is always rewarding and you are bound to get to know kind people.

Oh and what I found really is tru with depression - sometimes you just have to do things you know are good for yourself, even if you don't feel like doing them. Good luck and all the best, Sarah
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