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I have posted on another thrrad about this problem but I think it deserves to be in this this forum now.
For over 12 months I have all kinds of tummy pains that have mainly been gripe types yet so severe I have collapsed in pain, worse than natural child birth. I was also sick of nauseas & would go as pale as a ghost & get a kind of chill. These always came on half hour exactly after eating & became more regularly to the point I was having attacks every other day. Kept being rushed to A & E (ER) or taken home from work.
Anyway after an ultra sound it showed I had gallstones & was put on a 6 month waiting list . I continued to have all the pains & was given many differing strong pain killers that didn't take the worst pains off. One dr said the bowel type pains were nothing to do with the gallbladder but then another said it was because of the stones bile wasn't being released into my bowel when eating, hence the pains.
My gallbladder was removed 7 weeks ago & it was in a worse state than expected, it was full of pus & a large stone as blocking my duct. Blood leaked onto my pain causing me a longer hospital stay.
I recovered well but have just got over my second bout of the bowel pains, the ones dr's said I wouldn't have no more. The typical gallbladder pains have gone. I saw the dr again yesterday he now says its appears to still be a bilary problem as my motions keep going very pale which suggest bile isn't being released again. He thinks there maybe debri left after the surgery so he is sending me for an MRI scan (6 - 8 weeks to wait) & also wants to test my stools for possible pancreas defiency although he expects this to be ok.
I know you have posted on my thread in the other forums sillyachick but thought others on here may have simlar symptoms. Does anyone know what I can expect to happen if there is debri left behind or I do have pancreas deficiency?
I feel I must also point out that I have Scleroderma (CREST). I also have a hiatus hernia, inflamed stomach & small fibroids.
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replied April 29th, 2007
Thought I would add, I have noticed an itching over my body sometimes but I get no particular rash, just an occasional spot. I have noticed this is worse when my bowels are playing up. I have serached the net & it appears to be linked to all my problems.
Anyone else get the itch?
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replied May 14th, 2009
pain after gallbladder removal
Your story sounds very similar to mine. I had my gallbladder removed in 1996. I felt fine for years though, until August 2004. I had what felt like the worst gallbladder attack of my life, it sent me to hospital but I have yet to be diagnosed even now in May 2009. They are going to do an MRCP which i've never had before and I pray to God it shows something that can be resolved. I now live with constant gallbladder pain. It is robbing me of my life.
As for the itching OH MY GOSH YES....I itch somewhere off and on all day every day
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replied August 27th, 2009
reply to mike_karen99
mike_karen99,

Your story is identical to mine. Had gallbladder removed in 2000 and was fine till 2007. Since then, I've been getting same kind of attacks as when I had gallstones and as time goes on, they are more and more frequent and take longer (days) before I actually feel like myself again. I've had every test that I could think of done and all comes out ok.
Have you had any luck?
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replied September 16th, 2012
Pain after gallbladder surgery?
Have the bile duct checked for Spinchter of Oddi disease. It is the muscle that surrounds the bile duct and can spasm and cause severe pain. Indiana Univ Hospital in Indianapolis has some great doctors.My wife suffered from this for 5 years with heavy pain meds until this was discovered. Surgery to relieve the muscle cured the pain.
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replied August 31st, 2009
Hi everyone. Go back and see your docs. The itching is caused by a back up of liver metabolites from a blocked or narrow bile duct. You may need to have your bile duct dilated. Its a simple procedure that is done as an out patient. I actually suffer with the same problem but thankfully have the education under my belt to puch my docs to dig a little deeper. Best of luck to you all and feel better.
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replied July 17th, 2010
I too had my gall bladder removed in 1996; since a couple years after to today 2010--I have had moderate to severe pain where my gall bladder was. It feels like a ball wanting to bust through; but I have had many tests; been told it isn't a hernia, nothing shows on xrays or ultra sound. I have been told that the bile duct is enlarged; more than it should be after having your gall bladder removed. This also is with me just about daily through the entire day.
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replied March 21st, 2013
Hi, I'm so pleased I found your post! Finally somebody who's got the same as me..I've been trailing through the web to find info about this! I had an ultrasound a few weeks ago and was told my bile duct is inflammed and the wall of the duct is unnaturally thicker than it should be.. Sad I am not a happy bunny! I had my gallbladder removed about 4 years ago so I don't know why or how this has happened. I've been nagging my GP's for about 6 months telling them its linked to my gallbladder but NO they were insistent it was irritable bowel and then it was my back!! And I was referred to a physio! I nagged and nagged and finally got confirmation it was linked..but my doctor said 'this is beyond my expertise so I can't advise! So I'm now on a waiting list to see a gastro specialist. The list is 16 weeks long! I'm in so much pain and all my doc has prescribed me are codine tablets which don't help much but completely zonk me out! Did you get diagnosed? What did they do to stop the inflammation? I don't even know if it can be cured by medication or if it requires surgery?? All I know is there are no visible stones.. So time will tell! Hope you're feeling better and hope I find out what treatment I need as I'm so tired of being in pain!!
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replied March 7th, 2011
I had my gall bladder removed in 2008, and have had the same issues as well. I went back to my surgeon and now I am getting a scope done to see what's going on. He says it could be one of three things....stones int he bile duct, tumor or the muscle has wrapped around the opening of my bile duct. He said that they could fix two of the three while under sedation for the scope. I think it's definitely worth trying.
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replied March 30th, 2011
Just wondering if they fixed your problem with an ERCP?
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replied March 21st, 2013
Thanks for writing this post.. At least I am a bit wiser as my gp hasn't been able to help. When I had my ultrsound they told me there were no visible stones.. So I'm hoping its the muscle problem as opposed to a tumor! Fingers crossed!! Any information is much appreciated as the waiting lists in the uk are super long and you don't get given any info at all! Hope you feel better soon.
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replied August 1st, 2011
Stones in the bile ducts.
You might want to read this article: http://thestar.com.my/health/story.asp?fil e=/2006/11/5/health/20061105092509&sec=hea lth. I have been having this same problem. It needs to be addressed right away.
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replied August 16th, 2011
Please help. So itchy.. I have had a sono and have been told i have gall stones. I have pain once in awhile, feel nauceous alot.. BUT i dont know if all this warrents removing my gall bladder. I need help making this decision. I would like to keep my gall bladder but not if it is affecting other organs, like liver etc, THE ITCHING is getting annoying and painful. Im so afraid that things will snowball after they take my gall bladder. Thats what happened to my mom. Once they took one thing, they kept finding more things wrong with her.. UGH.. help. And then when i see the surgeon he tells me its up to me to decide. I CANT PUT myself in hospital for surgery. It seems crazy to me... but im getting scared it is huring other things and dont want to end up in an emergency room situtation. UGH . so confused. MY DOCTORS are no help. also, Just found out my Triglycerides are 300. does this have anything to do with gall bladder
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replied August 16th, 2011
gall bladder REALLY ITCHY
Please help. So itchy.. I have had a sono and have been told i have gall stones. I have pain once in awhile, feel nauceous alot.. BUT i dont know if all this warrents removing my gall bladder. I need help making this decision. I would like to keep my gall bladder but not if it is affecting other organs, like liver etc, THE ITCHING is getting annoying and painful. Im so afraid that things will snowball after they take my gall bladder. Thats what happened to my mom. Once they took one thing, they kept finding more things wrong with her.. UGH.. help. And then when i see the surgeon he tells me its up to me to decide. I CANT PUT myself in hospital for surgery. It seems crazy to me... but im getting scared it is huring other things and dont want to end up in an emergency room situtation. UGH . so confused. MY DOCTORS are no help. also, Just found out my Triglycerides are 300. does this have anything to do with gall bladder
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replied October 8th, 2011
My mom had her gall bladder removed 1 year ago. And since then she had been having some pains off and on.. She went to ER for awful pains in her stomach 2 weeks ago. They told her her Liver was damaged and to see a specialist. Well before she could get into the Dr office she turned jaundice, severe itching, pale stools, and very dark (almost black) urine. I took her back to the ER...eventually they found a blocked bile duct. They "blasted" the blockage (stones) and now she is getting better. This could have turned out much worse if I hadn't taken her back. The Docs said she had probably 3 more days until it would have been too late.
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replied January 19th, 2012
Gallbladder Duct pain????
I HAD MY GALLBLADDER OUT IN SEPT OF 2010, AND 2 days before Christmas, I ate a sausage ball at a family gathering and have had severe pain ever since. I have no insurance, so I'm really not sure what to do about this... I don't know what it is. I think sometimes it might be my heart, my esophagus, my duct leading to where my Gallbladder was. All I know is, I'm in so much pain I can't function properly most of the time. ,Also, I have a lot of indigestion, belching way more than normal!
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replied August 10th, 2012
Go to a health store and they have herbs and teas and digestive tablets to help!Either you have gallstones or gall bladder inflamation.
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replied April 8th, 2012
my mother had her gall bladder removed on mon after 3 years of attacks ,wen they operated they said no stones was there ,she was in pain tues as expected ,wed sick green bile all day and night , thurs ok but washed out and fri constant pain for 8 hrs even morphine never worked , her bloods was normal but now showing concerns as liver and kidneys very high ,she constantly feeling sick ,i am out my mind wth worry as the medical staff do not seem worried ,and at 1st said she was imagineing it all , all they seem concered about is getting there bed back ,but i no as soon as i take her home i will be back to casulty wth her , can anyone give me advise on wat to do please .......
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replied May 23rd, 2012
i had gallbladder removed 2011 sep 15 now i still have bad pain like its still there had to go to er liver inz were out of this world johndus set in had to get mri done now they tell me my ducted has no stone or is blocked but is in larged and i need 2 see doctor in richmond because my duct is trying to work and causeing my liver 2 shut down
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replied June 21st, 2012
Life without gallbladder
Interesting..I had my gallbladder removed little more than a month ago. I also have a hernia problem and "cut' in my tummy lining. Last week started to get simalar pains as the galbladder attacks...trying to find sites that can help me. Dr's just doubled my pill dose but I'm to scared to eat normal. How do I know if the pain is related to my hernia, tummy or dile. I do not get heartburn at all! Help I'm lost!
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replied December 27th, 2012
I have had 4 ERCP and it keeps returning every 12mths roughly. Sick of it, as it stops you doing what you want
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replied February 18th, 2013
Pain After Gallbladder Removal
Had my gallbladder removed in 1998, and since that time I havae had more trips to the ER - even by ambulance. The pain is located where I used to have gallstone pain, but is 10X worse. I almost blackout from how excruciating it is. Hard to breathe,talk or function. Tried pain killers - Tylenol with Codeine, Morphine and even Oxycontin and NO RELIEF. After a 5 day hospital stay, they attempted to scope the area, but because I have had a bypass of my intestines, they could not reach the bile duct area. Eventually, the pain subsided, but it still returns often and is worse when I lay down to nap or sleep. It wakes me up and the pain is so intense that I can barely breathe. Tired of going to the hospital, as nobody seems to be able to help me. By the time I get in for an ultrasound, MRI or CAT scan, the pain is gone and they find nothing. If I could turn back the clocks, I would never have had my gallbladder removed and live with gallstone attacks as they were painless compared to what I am dealing with almost every day.
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replied April 21st, 2013
Relief after ERCP?
I can't tell you what a relief it is to me that there are others out there going through what I've been going through. 3 years ago I had my gallbladder removed, the surgeon clipped the wrong bile duct so I ended up having to have a "choledochojejunostomy" to repair the damage. Since then, every 4-5 months I have extremely painful attacks. They're almost always preceded by itching and fatigue. I've had an MRCP done but it didn't show anything. I'm meeting with another doctor this week who wants to do an ERCP. Has anyone had improvement after an ERCP?
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replied August 12th, 2013
I had my gallbladder out last oct and have been fine slight pain on and off but not like before but now i get pain again not as stong as before but the same place and i belch constantly especially after eating , i feel like something is trying to push out like when youre pregnant and the baby pushes its foot into your side i am getting a bit worried dr just gave me pills for indigestion but its much more than this pain seems to get stronger as time goes on dont know what to do
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replied October 3rd, 2013
Me too
I am so happy i came across this forum. I had my gallbladder out 4 years ago and the last 3 weeks i have had the worst mid- stomach pain. I have had an ultrasound, ct scan,and endoscopy which all were negative fir anything major. Now i am supposed to have a MRCP. I am so tired of tests with no result.I just want to know the MRCP is the answer. I have been having the pain 30mins after meals about every other day,constant belching, nausea,and the pain is so bad as t on set I can't move then I am sore for hours.
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