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dynamicdebz

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Terrible Tummy Pains, Help!
Posted: 04-21-07 06:45am

For the past 12 months or more I have had increasing bowel problems that are wearing me down so much. I am in almost constant severe pain, lost 3 stone in weight, had just about every test imaginable that all show ok except I was shown to have gallstones. I eventually had my gallbladder removed 6 weeks ago. The surgeon was convinced all the other bowel problems I'd had was due to this, I wasn't convinced. My gallbladder was full of pus & I had a large stone blocking my bile duct when they opened me up. Some blood & pus also leaked onto my liver causing severe pain afterwards. However I have recovered well from the surgery & thought that wuld be the end of my symptoms but it appears that I still have all the bowel symptoms apart from I no longer have the gallbladder attacks. I have tried every diet even a total exclusion diet. They seem to work for a while but at the moment if I eat anything I am in severe pain, so am just eating enough to get me by. I will list my symptoms as they are so varied:
Severe abdominal pain, sometimes above pubic bone, sometimes at waist sides, sometimes centre of ribs but usally are cramp like pains.
Diarrhea but not always, I can have the pain without it.
Sickness or nausea.
Very pale yellow stools.
Sometimes orangy very loose oily diarhea.
Pain starts half an hour after eating, could almost set clock by it.
I am at the end of my tether with it, dr's have no answers, I have had to be rushed to hospital in pain several times. I am now convincing myself it is somethng sinister. I am on the verge of losing my job due to the time I have had off & also because I have become violently ill while working.
I have read the post about what celiacs is & read other info on the net. When I tell peole my symptoms they always say have you got a problem with gluten or do I have celiacs.
When I had biopsies from my bowels they came back ok, I have had loads of blood tests & I know 1 has been for celiacs but still came back ok.
When I have had a bout of thr pains I have tried following a gluten free diet & had no pain but also I have had no pain when eating gluten when not having a bout of problems.
Does this sound anything like celiacs, is it possible to have pain eating gluten one day but not the next?
Is it possible for the tests I've had to come back k but still have a problem?
Advice desperately needed!
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sillyakchick

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Posted: 04-22-07 18:47pm

Celiac disease can be difficult to diagnose for some people. If you felt better on the Gluten Free diet, many consider that proof enough. I had a hard time understanding from your post-Do you, in fact, feel better when you do not eat gluten?
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dynamicdebz

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Posted: 04-23-07 05:43am

When I have had the severe pains etc I have really had more of a total exclusion diet rather than gluten free diet. I have no appetite when I am in the pain as I also feel nauseas. So I basically eat to stay alive. I eat things like plain cod & boiled rice. Or chicken & jacket potato with nothing on them.
However I can eat gluten & most other things when I am ok & not have a problem.
It appears to me like it may be a build up of gluten or even dairy that causes the problem, so when I have too much it starts, then after I am ok till there is a build up again.
Is this possible?
I am in UK so it is better for me to know for definate as I would get gluten free products on a free prescription if I am diagnosed.
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sillyakchick

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Posted: 04-23-07 13:34pm

There is a website which does the genetic testing for celiac called enterolab. They send you a kit and then you follow the directions and send it back. Your physician can also order the genetic testing. I am sooo envious that you can get Gluten free stuff at no cost!! That stuff is expensive!
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dynamicdebz

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Posted: 04-23-07 16:23pm

The NHS does have it advantages but I would need a diagnosis first to get the prescriptions.
The disadvantages are that when I first realised I was having problems I couldn't just decide to pick a dr to visit when I felt like it. I had to visit my GP who then had to refer me to a consultant at my local hospital, the waiting list being about 3 months for the first appointment. Thats just one example of the disadvantages.
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sillyakchick

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Posted: 04-23-07 17:23pm

Point taken! Anyway, please let me know how you are doing.
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dynamicdebz

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Posted: 04-24-07 15:25pm

Been to hospital appt today, I told the consultant all my symptoms going over a lot of old ground.
Because of the pale motions he is still convinced it is a bilary problem.
He has ordered an MRI scan to see if some debri has been left behind in my duct & has arranged for my stools to be tested for pancreas insifficiency.
So it is just another waiting game, I have to see him again once I've had MRI scan, that could be in 6 - 8 weeks.
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Posted: 04-24-07 15:54pm

That is very interesting. I, too, have had my gall bladder out, and afterward continued to have the same gall bladder-type pain. They diagnosed me with "Spasm of the Sphincter of Oddi, Type III". it is terribly painful, and I have been to the ER several times for it. Last October they sent me to a fantastic pain management Dr. and I got some medication that works, ans they also referred me for acupuncture. This has been a lifesaver.

This condiditon results when the bile or pancreatic duct spasms and does not properly release the bile into the stomach for digestion. In my case, the bile builds up over time and then releases too much causing horrible pain and nausea. It seems to worsen with stress or eating certain foods, but I am not sure what foods cause this to happen.

Hope this is helpful to you.
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