the Ultimate Premature Ejaculation Discussion

Hi like alot of people ive read this forum for some time and ive descided to start to write aswell about my experiences.

Im 22 years old i have my first steady relationship wiv my girlfriend since a year back, i think i always have had PE but im not sure.

I will keep posting about my experiances and try to contribute to what we all are searching for.

Ive tried:
Ejaculation master - contains information we already know from reading online.

Stud 100: Works sometimes and sometimes not.

I have ordered dapoxetine from a medical company in Shanghai i paid thru wester union and the pills came thru! unfortionally i threw em away since my girlfriend really didnt wanted me to go on SSRI´s. I respect her alot and we have a great life together but hopefully if there is anyone out there that wants to try it but are to sceptical to order you know it worked for me. Unfortionally i havent got the name of the compnay anymore but they are all based around the region of china.

I got to the mode when i thought i had to live with for the rest of my life cause it seemed like no one ever had any sucsses but im guessin thoose people dont need the forums but i will be dedicated after the summer to help us gain more information.

Wow, lots of good new information. How do you know if its 100% neurological or just mental? I've had P/E since the first time I had sex. Depending on how excited I am and just a random day I can thrust for 15 seconds to 2 minutes. I never ejaculate upon first entry, but I do think my penis is more sensitive then most people. I've had some moderate success with numbing condoms.

The prolasta seems like it may have potential. I am staying away from SSRI's because they really mess with your personality and have horrible withdrawal symptoms when you get off them.

For those that have improved, during sex what do you think about?

Also when penetrating do you guys squeeze at all during it or push to try and make your erection harder?

Hi Prem955,

the consensus amongst the professionals seems to be that there is hardly ever a clear-cut single type of PE, usually a combination. The neurological version (innate tendency to go off early, fast reflex) is likely if you have PE in all situations and have had your whole life. I definitely had a bit of that but with experience it went away. I think you can avercome a bit of neurological PE by relaxing and with experience. By comparison, my problem is mostly psychological and, they say is a result of focussing too much on her and neglecting the sensations in my own body (too much porn and fantasy). To get back to normal I am focussing my mind solely on what my own body is feeling and not playing the erotic movie in my brain, or obsessively looking at her at the time.

This is during training sessions of everything except penetrative sex, so I can't report yet on the effectiveness for the real thing, but I know I have much more control now already. With psychological PE half the battle is knowing what to focus on. Distraction is counter-productive, but might work for neorological PE

Ongoing!

okay so UPDATES:

I took two pills of prolasta last night before masturbating and I lasted aobut 10 minutes. approximately 2 minutes longer with 1 pill of prolasta and approximately 7-8 minutes longer than without any of it.


the conclusion:
It is hard to say if prolasta is working, or if it is just mental, it really is. But there is no way to tell if it will work during sex yet for me, because I will not be able to have sex for at least 1 month due to distance.

so I recommend that someone else try using prolasta during sex and see if it works!! But I DO NOT think it is a scam to be honest. I just don't know how effective it will work, i was hoping its delaying effect would be a little stronger.


I will start taking paxil tomorrow 10 mg for 3 weeks then probably bump it up to 20 mg as doctor said I should.

Hi,

I been reading this site now for a while and it's been really interesting listening to other people who share the same problems as me.

I am 28 and have had the problem since i was about 18. But in that time i have been inactive for a large period of time due to my problem. Thing is i have always been able to get girls, but i chicken out of doing anything!! lol

I have tried everything, sprays, creams, tablets, been to see a counselor a few times, seen a Dr like more times than i can remember!! lol tried Kamagra etc etc.

I've had 3 serious relationships, one of which i have a child from. so my problem has affected my life to an extent that i have a child but am not with the mother anymore, not all down to my problem but we did used to argue about it alot.

Anyway, i have been with my current g/f for 18 months, she is the best thing that has ever happened to me, the best looking girl i have ever been with and the youngest as she is only 20!!

When we first started seeing each other i was worried coz she was so fit i didn't want to let her down so i got some Kamagra to keep me hard so if i did go too early i could continue. This really worked very well, bar a few times, and for the next 6 months i had the best sex i have had in my life!! and we were at it 5 times a week, and i could go for 20 minutes sometimes which was amazing for me. Also sometimes i couldn't even cum, which amazed me and her!!

But as you do in a relationship, over time you have less sex and the less i had the worse i got again as i couldn't keep taking kamagra all the time.

Anyway, at the moment i can go for a couple of minutes so am back to square one this is why i am trying to sort it out once and for all naturally. I don't want to lose my g/f over it as she is the world to me, she is understanding but does get annoyed sometimes but she knows i am trying to sort it out.

I just want to please her and make her happy and not let my problem mess this relationship up, this is why i am doing everything i can to sort it out now.

For me i think it's all i my head, coz if not then i would have been able to go for 20 minutes in the past, i think that 1 good time gave me lots of confidence and then next time i was better then i just snowballed and got better everytime.

Confidence is a big factor, but i have always had problems with anxiety so this is a big thing for me.

Anyway, i've been reading about kegels and have found that doing the normal ones makes me go quicker, but the reverse ones (i have only tried this once last night) really made me relax more and gave me control so am going to continue doing them as i have heard good things about them.

Any comments/help are welcome.

I know this hasn't been brought up in a while but I'm sure you guys are interested..
I just got a big bonus at work so I have decided I am going to solve this problem for all, hopefully..

I just ordered a STU fleshlight, a product we discussed earlier on the forum, an item that claims to help people improve their stamina and PE.

I will see how it goes, but my theory is that if someone thinks they have PHYSICAL PE they should order this and see what happens. Apparently this is the closest thing there is to having sex with a virgin, so it would also be the tightest and hardest sex to last long, so we will see how long I can last.

I recommend someone who thinks their PE is physical buy one. Me just testing it is probably not enough.

hey guys heres a link i stumbled across. This is the first article i found that is exactly what i have been talking about. PC relaxation

http://infosex.com/p c-muscle-relaxation.htm

wow this is crazy. In this link they talk about how out of 150 PE books only a few bring up the technique of PC relaxation. It somehow slipped under the radar. They also said its one of the most effective techniques and I can confirm that because it works for me and nothing else did.

Jimmster you need to read this link they say the only book they found that correctly teaches this technique is the book you were just talking about "Coping with PE".

I am very happy to have found this because now it confirms that The Pc relaxation is actually whats doing it, it's not just mental

You have become too one minded John. Although this may work for some, so does Stud, and other pills. It is a fix for some, but not a cure by far.

When I did the reverse kegel teqnique, I felt my erections werent as hard and also after we had sex I would be dripping cum still.. kinda weird but it's because my PC muscle wasnt as strong.
With all that said it still didnt cure my PE problem.
I'm gonna start doing kegels again 100/day and during masterbation... worse comes to worse I have a huge erection

Hi John,

thanks for the infosex link. I came across this just before your first post and that's why I felt it was so on track - it made a lot of sense to me. I think you and I are in the same boat in that we might be a bit prone to going off early, but relaxation and reverse kegels give us good control. Without techniques and a plan I just got so worked up that there was no chance of relaxation and I could virtually go off unpredictably without stimulation.

Infosex does say the Metz and McCarthy book has a lot of impenetrable scientific/medical terminology, which is true. I have had to reread parts of it several times to really get to the exact meaning. e.g. their term "self entrancement arousal" was gibberish to me at first. Now I know they mean getting aroused but focussing on the actual sensations in your own body (your dick if she's rubbing you, or your fingers or tongue if v.v.) rather than the natural tendency to focus on her body and mental images of very sexy positions and stuff. This was a breakthrough for my kind of PE because I overstimulate myself with these mental images and hunger for her body. If you focus on your own sensations you don't get over-aroused and get to the point of orgasm too early.

Ironically this is the opposite of distraction techniques that have historically been the most common advice. That may help if you have neurological PE (hard wired quick reflex) but is totally counter-productive in my case because without monitoring sensation I have no idea where I am up to and orgasm unpredictably and without control.

(I'm going to end up rewriting the book here, because I have found it so helpful!) I'm not out of the woods yet, but things are looking up.

guys I think I have figured out a problem, at least of mine..

I get aroused way to quickly, maybe it is because of the way I was raised and never exactly being comfortable with like "liking girls" as amateur as that sounds I am in my 20s and I grew up in a very conservative household.maybe some of you can relate...
But irregardless whenever I even watch porn I feel my "heart so to say drop" I just get aroused... I don't get hard but its definitely like an exciting feeling, and I think this is the cause of PE.

When I feel this happen when I am masturbating, it is soon after that I cum.


Can anyone relate? does anyone have any ideas on what I should do to maybe make myself more comfortable around porn and naked woman?

hey blast00, dont you hire a special 'friend' for 1 hour rendevouz and see what happens with those prolasta pills, i ordered mine but not here yet....

Hello everyone,

This is tiger_tiger.

I joined this group today after 3 years of my Yahoo group discussion forum. It\'s actually going in vicious circle right now. There is always debate on drugs and herbs and etc. I\'m not against any of those, I have personally tried out some of them.
I was and have been a minute, no no second man. Ejaculated instantly in a second. I\'m married and you can imagine how frustrated the relationship is. And we\'re at divorcing point, yet I decided to get over with this sneaky problem. Most of the doctors don\'t even diagnose, because simply it\'s not a disease, it\'s only a symptom they always say. At the end they prescribe nasty brain stimulants, like prozac, etc.
What I realized recently my PE problem mostly due to over sensitive penis head, as soon as I touch or stimulate, it triggers the ejaculation mechanism, and rapidly reach to the point there is no coming back or holding at the peak.

Then a month ago I decided to try go on with masturbation (my wife is abroad for summer) no matter how quickly I come. What I found that the after first handy job, without stopping go overlap 2nd round of masturbation and stimulate only the sensitive head this time around.
My experiment with this is while you do head thrusting, your penis gets harder very quick, as if you are multi-orgasmic man. You may do 3rd, 4th if you want.
The frequent you do this exercise the better result comes.

In 3-4 week time my ejaculation period extended hugely. NOW believe or not, I can hold it as long as I want. I had no chance to try with my wife yet. Mostly I come about 45 minutes to 1 hour, it depends on the mood. I can really play with it, slapping, thrusting slow or fast, etc.

I was asking everybody on yahoo group to try out this natural, effective, and maybe permanent solution, but most of them still want to try pills, like tramadol, prozac, viagra, solid36, climinax, so on.

Can anyone want to try my experiment, and post the results here, please?

INSTRUCTIONS:

1- Try this only if you believe that you have an over sensitive penis head and that\'s the cause for your PE case. (feel free to try even your cause is different)

2- Masturbate as freely and frequently as you can. I do it every other day for example.

3- At the beginning you may ejaculate quickly, don\'t discouraged. Carry on, stimulate only the head, it gives you kind of orgasm feeling when you do that. Second one naturally takes bit longer.

4- Over the time the sensitivity on the head will disappear, you\'ll see. And You\'ll gain more control over your urge.

5- I also try you might say Kegel Exercise, but I do it only when I piss, hold it 3-4 times every time I go to the bathroom. Stop urinate, then release.

6- I even start getting morning erection after for a long time. I\'m 40 by the way. To be honest I\'ve been also semi ED while having PE .

So, you have nothing to lose! Try and see.

Thanks for your time.

tiger_tiger (TT)

makeitright- its kind of hard for me to order a special friend... thats not a easy thing to do where I am from nor am I really comfortable shelling out the money for that purpose. but its a good idea if you can!

I'd like to start off by saying that for the past straight week, I've been reading this entire thread. Every single post from the very first page on.

My God, what a *wealth* of information for guys like us. By far the best PE discussion I've ever seen. It's a real shame that the guys that really got it going in the first place (NYC, POM, HealthySex, Mand, etc.) aren't around anymore, but the cooperation, the openness, the drive to help other men out there with this problem is astounding. You guys are amazing.

This thread lives on. With each passing day or two, new information comes to light, and brings us closer to finding a cure. Keep it up.

Has anyone else tried Prolasta, or is considering using it? blast00 seems to have had success with it, and I'm very curious to see if it works for anyone else, particularly during intercourse.

And John414, you sir are a rockstar. You're the sole reason I can last for upwards of 7 or 8 minutes (from 1-2), and I applaud you for your advice on relaxation and reverse Kegels. I'd like to buy you a drink.

The site you posted is *fantastic* also.

Good luck everyone.

hi all, i have just read thru every single post and i have to say i am shocked as to why i havent been on here before. i am 25 have always lasted between 1-5 mins. For me alcohol does me no good what so ever, now not all of you will agree with this but il tell you anyway. I last literally hours if i go out have a couple of beers and a few lines of good quality cocaine, the more the better. Ocasionally its hard to get it up for this is use kamagra. the only problem with this is that you will end up an addict. this is why i want to try sumthing else, has anyone got any feedback using ssri's, prolasta or aspheton. Ive just ordered ascend has anyone used this before? i will let you know how i get on with when it comes.

take care all!