the Ultimate Premature Ejaculation Discussion

it also turns out that the drug was created and tested at the university of pittsburgh medical school

Well that is awesome news blast! I would say since your girlfriend isn't around that porn would the BEST way. I know that I can masturbate without porn for a long time if I just keep it steady, but with the visual stimulation of porn I can't last very long at all.

Did he say if those other patients that had tremendous success had PE, or just wanted it?

Thanks for the info!

Prolasta is made of hypericum perforatum which is St. John's Wort.
I tried St. John's Wort for two months straight taking a couple pills everyday and about 4 pills 30 minutes before sex. Didnt feel any difference at all.

He was only providing it for those people with PE so i'm assuming it was only in reference to those with PE.



Rocketman: That is incorrect. As stated in the ingredients, and on page 29 I believe, there is another ingredient, Mannitol, which has some affect on the brain and effects seratonin aswell.

So maybe just taking St. Jonh's Wort pills wouldn't do it?

additonally, not all of the ingredents for prolasta are released. They don't specifiy what is in the blend that does include St. John's Wort aswell, so I don't think taking St. John's Wort would cover that also..


I will post my results shortly!

also, pom82, who posted on here alot originally, his last post was him about to try out prolasta and paxil. but first prolasta..
and then he never really posted on here again, so my hope is that he never posted on here again because it solved his PE lol.

don't worry I will post here even if it does, because my ultimiate goal is not not need a pill to have sex longer.

okay, mannitol is a sweetner but yes your're right, is is supposed to bring the hypericum perforatum directly to the brain.
And the page you are refferering to is page 20 I think you had a typo.

okay update, so I am going to make a chart to attempt to measure the effectiveness of prolasta, paxil, lexapro (citalopram excuse my spelling), stud100, and trojan longer lasting condoms.. compared to no "supplement".

I am measuring the following data, and I will do 2 trials of each variable. with everything else constant:
Time to get hard, time to ejaculate, time of day, pace, comments before, comments after, position, lubrication (y/n), porn (y/n)..

let me know if all of those measuring statistics sound good, if there is anything else I should add or not.
My plan of attack:
Day 1 & Day 2: masterbating with porno, no lube, no "supplement"
Day 3 & Day 4: masterbating with porno with the use of prolasta, no lube
Day 5 & Day 6: masterbating with porno no "supplement" no lube
Day 7 & Day 8: masterbating with porno with 15 mg paxil no lube

and I will take it from there..


Does this sound good for everyone? Do you think this will be helpful in determining the effectiveness of these varying drugs? I won't post this stuff here if you guys aren't interested its slightly personal.... so let me know i'm trying to help all of us

I am interested in seeing the results, but will these pills work with just a two day time of taking them?

I am not sure if you should use lube or not though, using lube is more like the feeling of sex rather than a rough hand.

sounds good to me. Let me know what happens.
thx

the prolasta works instantly, it should work the moment i take it, it has a short half life and works based on a per basis consumption.

the paxil should work based on a daily consumption, but would be more effective if taken everyday. however that would screw up my trials because in order for this to work I have to masterbate daily..

also question to all, when you flex your stomach, do you also relax your PC/ do a reverse kegel ? I can't do one without the other

also, altho using a lubricant would resemble something more like sex, i think it is too variable, I couldn't control how much I used and how I distributed it across my penis, and since it can really sway how aroused you are, I just didn't want to mess with it..


also- this is very different topic, but do any of you guys when you meet new girls tell them that you are a virgin? I was thinking about doing this to a) alleviate the pressure of having sex right away, b) because I have PE the time I last is basically that of a virgin's so it would be less embarassing then telling a girl I have PE.

Just curious if any of you guys do this

i'm not sure, i think my first result the first time i take the measurements will not be that accurate. but as long as i masterbate everyday afterward it should be fine?

I feel like with the sex anology, yes it goes up the first like 3 consecutive days, but then it evens out it doesn't just keep going up.

maybe I should masterbate without any of the drugs for the first few days to get it to reach that even plateu and then really start the experiment??

Hello has anyone actually gone through their program and if so what were your results ? So far in my Research, it seems as though this is the ONLY actual program that can point to real people getting real results in Successful helping their PE. Everything else such as herbal Pills, ebooks etc. seem to be total outright Frauds and scams and a waste of time and money.

DO NOT USE BOSTON MEDICAL GROUP. do a google search read forums and stuff from people who have gone through with it. It is a TREMENDOUS SCAM. Charges you TONS of money, causes permanent damage to some peoples's penises lies to you. I have heard tons of awful things about it, it is THE biggest scam out there. they inject your penis with a fluid to make you hard, for free, but then make you pay to make it go back to normal.

Additionally, do you really want to have to inject yourself with something, inject your penis with a needle everytime you want to have sex?

DON'T DO IT.

Its the most OBVIOUS thing in the world actually. Guys think !

so far what ive realized is there are 2 types of PE, one is
due to Mental causes which is a Small Limited Number of Guys, and the
Other which is much more common among us is purely 100 % Physical.


Mine is purely Physical due to an Oversensitive Penis, and i cant
find any info out there Online on what a guy like myself can do to
effectively help this condition .


Most of the Info i read Reccomends Deep Breathing, Relaxing, Pacing
yourself, stop Start , squeeze etc. All of which are utterly Useless
and will do NOTHING to help if your problem is purely physical in cause. Thats only Logical why these methods fail for Most guys because it does NOTHING to get to the true Source of problem.


So far the only possibly Legit Remedy ive read is BOSTON MEDICAL GROUP which uses a
Needle to inject your dick to force it to stay hard and it costs $
1200 upfront, which is insanely expensive for the Avg guy. Anyone
know of any other ways to Reduce PE due to severe Penile
sensitivity ? i can find NO info on it anywhere


I honestly do believe this is the MAIN reason for PE. Guys who dont
have PE dont have an overly Physically sensitive Penis, it IS that
simple. A Normal guy can have sex and he feels the pleasure only
slightly in his penis and it builds up over time gradually.... thats why hes able to Last. Theres Nothing there to 'hold back' . He ejaculates when his Penis is ready to.


whereas the guy who has PE has extremely intense PREMATURE physical sensations
much too suddenly and there is no Gradual build up, its just automatic and
instantaneous totally out of his control .


Thats the difference, its due to a hypersenstive Penis. If im
correct, perhaps that is the reason there is no cure...because there
IS no cure and never will be one !

Its like saying whats the cure for a Missing Arm ?
well, besides an Artificial Arm, lets just be honest and realistic,
THERE IS NO CURE OR NATURAL REPLACEMENT for your Natural Arm, you
wont ever grow a new one its biologically impossible, we know that.


Is it possible its the same with PE ? Meaning that if you are
unlucky enough to be born with an oversenstive Penis that doesnt feel
Sex on the physical level as a Normal guy does, than there is NO way
to "fix" a body part that is damaged or Defective from birth for
whatever reason or cause, that simply feels too much plearsure too
fast which as we all know, sexually speaking is not Normal.

We can put men on the Moon and have them return safely, yet we cant prevent a mans penis from ejaculating too soon ? Thats ridiculous. Maybe the real reason is because there is NO cure and never will be, lets face it PE is cause by a Penis that is super hyper sensitive abnormally so, and unless you Remove that hypersensitivity, nothing under the sun will get you desired results .


dj

then desenstizing condoms and creams should do it... ?

i have also read many forums on them, and many guys claim it works for them. Yes you are correct EVERY post ive ever read agrees they are very expensive, no one denies that. But if you read up on these same mssg. boards you are talking about, they have many positive posts from guys who claim they are able to Last 10 mins to 30 mins from it.

I have read they are unprofessional and Pushy in their demeanor , and the Office is sorta dirty and dim lighting etc. however Most of the guys who have gone through the program do claim that the Medicine does EXACTLY what they claims it does and they are able to engage in Sex for a long time.

My point is it sounds like the Only Option with a successful track record thats out there . Lets just be honest, the standard conventional caca about Breathing, pacing, start stop , relaxing is utter rubbish, if your Problem is that your Penis feels Pleasure much too intensely and quickly, all the deep breathing in the world will do NOTHING.

If the standard conventional advice actually worked, than NONE of us would be here seeking other answers, because that advice is Everywhere , only problem is its totally Useless and a Joke. Its like giving a man a Nylon Tent for shelter in a Hurricane and promising he'll be safe, its totally ridiculous


Im only seeking viable realistic answers, and theres NONE out there sadly ! Please read my previous post on the True Cause and tell me what you honestly think of it, id be grateful for anyones comments and input.

I am a guy suffering with this problem for YEARS , and i am sick and tired of all the Lies about it and Misinformation and false hopes and scam artists out there telling us to just breath deeply and relax more and youll perform like a porn star, or here take my herbal pills and buy my flimsy 20 page ebook for fifty bucks , they are outright lies and Never addresses the REAL cause or even mention it !

I just want the Truth, and am sick of the false hopes and total Lies, and i think other guys are also. We are NEVER going to find solutions if we dont address the true real cause of our PE, and keep chasing ghosts that lead nowhere but wasted time, money and more frustration and confusion.


You have to correctly identify the Cause

dj

I tried STUD 100 spray before, and all it did was make My Penis Red and produce a Hot burning sensation on surface, but it didnt enable me to last any Longer as i still felt enormous pleasure too intensely and quickly. My Opinion is they seem to be moderately effective for Mild PE, but do Nothing or very little for Severe PE.

For instance i ejaculate immediately upon Vaginal insertion, i cant even pump one time im so Ultra senstive in my Penis ! Oral sex i can only hold out for around 20 seconds. In my Opinion Most PE is the same cause , over sensitive Penis, some are just more sensitive than others.

If im correct , than obviously all the relaxing , meditating, deep breathing, PC exercises and start stopping in the world will never address the real cause of the problem. And as in almost evthing in life, if you dont remove true cause, you wont solve the problem.

dj