John, when do you practice the reverse
kegels? Only when you are aroused? Or
even during the day.
|
JPS18
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 03 May 2008 Posts: 14
Posted: 05-09-08 23:02pm
It seems that the only method that will
work for mostly everybody are the anti
depressents. Sure they seem to work
amazing, but I feel that should be our
last resort. If you cant cure it
naturally, and its effecting your mental
health, i say go for it.
|
JPS18
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 03 May 2008 Posts: 14
Posted: 05-10-08 03:41am
Also what does everybody think about the
masturbating with the fake vagina idea?I
dont know about that one. I have one
myself, actually its modeled for anal sex,
so I think its very tight, and has huge
ribs. So I think that it probably feels
way better than real sex. Haha, I dont
remember it feeling that damn good. So I
dont know what to make of this idea.
|
jprice79144
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 07 May 2008 Posts: 29
SSRIs for PE Posted: 05-10-08 07:13am
Dapoxetine was to be the first SSRI made
specifically to be prescribed for PE. It
was issued with a "not approvable" by the
FDA because the side-effects far
outweighed the benefits.
SSRI's can also cause erectile
dysfunction. With ED you wont have to
worry about PE because you wont be able to
get an erection in the first place!
|
jprice79144
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 07 May 2008 Posts: 29
Do NOT use SSRI's for PE. THEY DO NOT FIX IT. I tried them! Posted: 05-10-08 07:15am
Anti-depressants are NOT the easy "last
resort" for PE that people make them out
to be. They should NOT even be considered
because they DO NOT FIX Premature
Ejaculation, THEY JUST MASK THE SYMPTONS,
and create an ignorance to a very common
problem which in turn makes PE worse.
Remember that PE affects at least 35% of
guys. 35% of the current world population
is ONE BILLION (one thousand million or
1,000,000,000) men. What are we all doing
wrong?
I took sertraline (the number one
prescribed anti-depressant in the USA) for
my PE for the last 2 months. They sort of
worked, they took away that build up of
excitement near my penis when i know sexy
time is about to happen, and they slowed
down ejaculation, BUT i couldnt just pound
away whilst my girlfriend had
multiple-orgasms and told me i was a
sex-god before making me a cooked
breakfast and then giving my still rock
solid erection a good sucking because i
couldnt finish inside her.... in fact the
story was quite different:
I still wore desensitising condoms and
used stop start several times when i felt
it building up. This is because I WAS NOT
DEALING WITH THE OTHER FACTORS OF
PREMATURE EJACULATION BESIDES SEROTONIN
DEFICIENCY.
Finding this revelation about reverse
kegels, i came off the SSRIs. not only had
they created an aggressive streak i didnt
have before (particularly towards my
girlfriend) and interrupted my sleep
patterns, i found that i would have to
take them hours before or after doing
anything that required concentration like
work or studies or computer games etc
because they mess with your head.
Im a student, and having a drink or two on
SSRIs made me feel hungover there and
then, id have to drink a few to get past
that feeling and then id be really drunk
because thats what SSRIs do when you
drink.
The withdrawal symptons are awful too.
They made me emotionally weak when i came
off them, like i could cry at simple
things, and i felt dizzy and light-headed
for over a week. I also had aches in my
testicles and felt depressed knowing that
my ejaculation was going to go back to
being premature.
The first time i had sex without them i
had the worst PE i have ever had. I came
on entry, the few times i had sex after i
developed PE i would last 7 to 10 thrusts.
This means that you either take nervous
system altering synthetic tablets for the
rest of your life (and REALLY mess with
your head) or you get on with actually
treating the problem!
a) REVERSE KEGELS - to gain control over
pc muscle (do this a lot in the day, you
will notice that they tense when you are
sorting yourself out or when you are with
your lover, but they also tense all the
FRIGGING TIME! when you are making a
coffee, watching sport, reading a book,
walking up the stairs. Be aware of how
often they involuntarily tense! and stop
it happening by pushing out as if to
pee/poo (reverse kegelling)
b) INCREASE SEROTONIN via herbal
supplement (this is what SSRIs do, you can
do it without the side-effects)
c) DECREASE ANXIETY by talking to your
partner and telling her/him that you are
dealing with the issue, or by a herbal
supplement if you feel you cant tell
her/him or if you do not have a partner
d) find out if you have PROSTATE problems
causing your pe
popular PE formulas (like climinax,
lovelonger, endurmax, detain x) work the
same way as SSRIs, increasing serotonin
using 5htp from griffonia simplicifolia
seed extracts, and also using some sort of
anti-anxiety herbs, like St Johns Wort,
Damiana, Donq Quai, Nacre, Passiflora etc
etc etc.
JPS, a fake vagina is one step along the
road to killing your desire for a real one
buddy! Though i nearly bought one and my
girlfriend doesnt seem up for anal sex so
the one you have would do the trick
nicely!
I do think it would be a very valuable
item to have whilst retraining your pc
muscles using reverse kegels (or tantra or
chikong breathing, whichever method you
use). If you were to master the technique
whilst using your hand, then you could use
a lubricated hand, then go on to the fake
vagina, then once you are in control of
your ejaculation you can get to the real
good stuff!
|
jprice79144
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 07 May 2008 Posts: 29
Posted: 05-10-08 07:47am
Oh and by the way, SSRIs killed my
appetite. I could go a whole day on two
peices of bread and got dead skinny! Now I
SO HUNGRY!
P.S keep pounding, but make sure you're
relaxing those darned PCs!
|
JPS18
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 03 May 2008 Posts: 14
Posted: 05-10-08 11:27am
JPrice- Thanks for your input, but I feel
your being a bit close sighted on the
SSRI's. I feel for some people they are
key. Some people like myself, have had
extreme anxiety in many aspects of life,
and this is a key contributor to PE. I
have been told by my Doc a year ago I
should go on AD for my anxiety and
depression. So I wouldnt be taking them
strictly for off label use. Plus I feel
anxiety is my problem, not over
sensitivity or anything else. Ive had sex
many times, and PE usually on happened
about 35% of the time. SO I feel that my
be a good option for me, combined with the
reverse kegals and relaxation exercises
may work well.\
Plus the fake vagina. Maybe it would be
beneficial if it felt real, not a million
times better.
|
jprice79144
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 07 May 2008 Posts: 29
Posted: 05-10-08 11:49am
im not saying dont treat your anxiety JPS,
just that after a year of trying
everything for PE i gave up and went on to
SSRIs but they only masked the serotonin
defficiency. you are right though, taking
them for anxiety should help. i should
have thought of that. though if you asked
me i wouldnt put your body through
anti-depressants because they dont care
for it enough, they just force your nerves
into doing something they dont want to do,
and so cause the side-effects
|
JPS18
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 03 May 2008 Posts: 14
Posted: 05-10-08 21:09pm
jprice79144
wrote:
im not saying dont treat
your anxiety JPS, just that after a year
of trying everything for PE i gave up and
went on to SSRIs but they only masked the
serotonin defficiency. you are right
though, taking them for anxiety should
help. i should have thought of that.
though if you asked me i wouldnt put your
body through anti-depressants because they
dont care for it enough, they just force
your nerves into doing something they dont
want to do, and so cause the
side-effects
I mean it makes sense that somebody who
has anxiety and has for years, that could
be a good majority of my issue. I dont
know though, both my parents take AD, and
they both told me they dont have major
side effects. It also seems like latley
there has been more info leaking out about
the side effect of delayed orgasm in
SSRI's. Seems it is way more common than
doctors want us to believe.
|
JPS18
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 03 May 2008 Posts: 14
Posted: 05-10-08 23:13pm
And on the subject of 5HTP, so in theory
taking that supplement would give you the
same delaying effects of SSRI's? Has
anybody taken any of these.
Also, has anyone noticed that your ability
to control ejaculation varies? As in some
days its easier than others?
Plus Now that I think back in my long
relationship the only time I had had PE
for the most part had one of these two
factors.
1. We didnt mess around or have sex for
awhile, as in a few days to a week.
2.When I received alot of oral stimulation
before sex, its way sometimes hard to last
awhile.
Im just really thinking lout loud here
guys, sorry. Im just so sick of this
feeling in my head. Like I said, Im not
even sure if I have this, but Im to scared
to go out and try for fear or screwing
myself up forever with women. I also seem
to have low self confidence and this
doesnt help the issue.
|
John414
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 07 Apr 2008 Posts: 24
Posted: 05-10-08 23:44pm
that link is bull its just trying to scare
you into buying something to "replace"
lost vitamins from too much masturbation.
its not true, it's just a marketing scam.
don't let articles like that interfere
with your idea's
|
Damendamandaman
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 06 May 2008 Posts: 15
haha Posted: 05-11-08 11:49am
That link wants you to STOP masturbating
and having sex to fix PE... idiotic stuff.
|
JPS18
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 03 May 2008 Posts: 14
Posted: 05-12-08 02:12am
Any input on the 5 ttp idea?
|
rocketman1
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 08 Jan 2008 Posts: 18
Posted: 05-12-08 08:34am
I used 5htp and st johns wort. I used it
for about 3months straight, took it
everyday and took a ton more before sex.
It didnt do anything
|
John414
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 07 Apr 2008 Posts: 24
Posted: 05-12-08 18:36pm
you guys think about it do you really
think you need st johns wort or 5 htp. PE
is the number one sexual problems for
males. Thats millions of us. Now 95% of us
guys are perfectly healthy so why the hell
would we all have serotonin deficiency but
still be healthy in all other areas of our
life. It just makes sense that this is a
problem caused from things like habits,
and muscle control And i proved for
myself that it is not a biological problem
because i had it bad and am now better
from some work and persistence.
I realized all this after reading that
orgasm is triggered by a build up of
muscle tension in certain muscles that
trigger the body to orgasm. So i thought
if i can control that tension i can
control my orgasm. I was thinking
obviously other guys can do it so there
has to be a way. I just experimented with
that idea and now PE is never going to be
a problem again in my life.
all that said i just hate to see guys
trying all these things they hear when all
it really takes is some serious thinking
and problem solving.
|
SeverePE
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 12 May 2008 Posts: 2
Anyone found success curing Severe Premature Ejac ? Posted: 05-13-08 00:10am
would luv to hear some feedback on all the
Popular Online Methods that are Out there
! I have Severe PE in that i can only last
a few seconds at the Most , im never
anywhere near lasting 1 Minute. Been Like
this since ive been Sexually active. So
this is an Intense case i have
I have tried all the products on the
STAYERECT Site which is based in FL and i
can tell you My Experience and advice is
to Avoid them , its a total waste of time
and Money. None of their products worked
for me whatsoever, and when i tried to get
my Money Back, it was a total Nightmare, i
had to continually Harass them and
threaten them with a Lawsuit if they didnt
comply and honor their Guarantee , and
FINALLY after i had an Atty write them a
letter to show i was Serious , they sent
the Money back to me 7 months later !
Creams, Sprays, Tension Rings, do NOTHING
for my case, no difference at all in
Performance time.
I would like to ask for anyones Honest
feedback if you tried any of the following
Popular products or ebooks and if they
worked or Helped you, and if not , how
easy or difficult was it in getting them
to Honor their Refund to you in gettin
your Money back ?
DetainX Pills, Sweedish Tiger ebook,
Tantraattahoe website ebooks, Paul Lains'
CurePrematureejaculation Site and ebook,
OrgasmMastery site and Exercise ebook
program, NewHopeforPe Site ebook .
Also How about anyones Experience in using
the SSRIs out there Paxil, Zoloft etc.
Dapoxetine, paroxetine ?
Thank you Very Much ,
DJ
|
jprice79144
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 07 May 2008 Posts: 29
Reverse kegels and abdominal muscles? Posted: 05-13-08 15:14pm
I dont have a 6 pack but ive done sit ups
for years to stay toned, just wondering if
anyone else feels these muscles pushing
out when they reverse kegel. also does it
affect anyone else breathing ever so
slightly? definately slows down how fast i
can jack off also
|
JPS18
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 03 May 2008 Posts: 14
Posted: 05-13-08 15:55pm
I think that the seratonin thing has also
got alot to do with the mental aspect of
this problem. Dont let people scare you
about taking SSRI's if that what you want
to do. Theres a ton of evidence out there
that this an extremely effective way to
eliminate PE. I think SSRI's will work for
just about everybody except the most
extreme cases of PE.
|
jprice79144
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 07 May 2008 Posts: 29
Posted: 05-14-08 08:25am
Hi JPS. Just want to say that SSRIs dont
eliminate PE. My PE was worse when I came
off them than when i went on them.
|
JPS18
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 03 May 2008 Posts: 14
Posted: 05-14-08 14:46pm
Well the reason your PE got worse after
using SSRI's is because of your sub
concisenes contraction of those PC
muscles. Thats why. It wasnt the drug that
made it worse. You were so used to have to
try really hard to cum during sex that you
got used to it. Then when taken off you
reverted back to those same habits, which
obviously will make you blow your load way
to fast.
The site is not a replacement for professional medical opinion, examination, diagnosis or treatment. Always seek the advice of your medical doctor or other qualified health professional before starting any new treatment or making any changes to existing treatment. Do not delay seeking or disregard medical advice based on information written by any author on this site. No health questions and information on eHealth Forum is regulated or evaluated by the Food and Drug Administration and therefore the information should not be used to diagnose, treat, cure or prevent any disease without the supervision of a medical doctor. Posts made to these forums express the views and opinions of the author, and not the administrators, moderators, or editorial staff and hence eHealth Forum and its principals will accept no liabilities or responsibilities for the statements made.
Schizophreniahealth
This page was last updated on June 11, 2008
