Did you expirement with a girlfriend or
yourself for a while? I have no girl in my
life so masturbation isn't real enough to
practice. I am about a 25 second guy
without a condom and about a 1 to 1 1/2
minute guy with a condom. I have noticed
if I masturbate without too hard of a grip
I can last for 20 min+, however as soon as
I start to really squeeze hard onto the
head when masturbating I can get off in
about a minute. I feel the tighter the
grip is around the head the more sensitive
the penis head is and I can't stop the
feeling from masturbating. I feel like its
a head sensitivty problem that can not be
fixed.
However, I want to try and relax the PC
muscle, I just don't know when its
contracted and don't even know where to
start on knowing or trying to relax the
Pc. Any advice?
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John414
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Joined: 07 Apr 2008 Posts: 30
Posted: 04-22-08 15:37pm
prem955
wrote:
Hey John,
Great to hear!
Did you expirement with a girlfriend or
yourself for a while? I have no girl in my
life so masturbation isn't real enough to
practice. I am about a 25 second guy
without a condom and about a 1 to 1 1/2
minute guy with a condom. I have noticed
if I masturbate without too hard of a grip
I can last for 20 min+, however as soon as
I start to really squeeze hard onto the
head when masturbating I can get off in
about a minute. I feel the tighter the
grip is around the head the more sensitive
the penis head is and I can't stop the
feeling from masturbating. I feel like its
a head sensitivty problem that can not be
fixed.
However, I want to try and relax the PC
muscle, I just don't know when its
contracted and don't even know where to
start on knowing or trying to relax the
Pc. Any advice?
Look at some of my earlier posts. They
should be about a page back
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prem955
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 13 Apr 2008 Posts: 9
Posted: 04-23-08 01:07am
I read them but unfortunately you dont
explain how to relax the PC muscle or at
least how to realize the PC muscle is
relaxed. Without this I can't help myself.
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The Loki
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 25 Apr 2008 Posts: 6
Posted: 04-25-08 08:53am
I have an odd problem with PE myself and
any insight would be great. I tend to
only last a few min's when im having
actual intercourse BUT my (now ex-partner)
Complained that oral sex took to long to
get me off. And i think she's correct as
if i wanted it to it could take all
night.
I dont understand my lack of control
during intercourse. Any thoughts?
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rocketman1
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Joined: 08 Jan 2008 Posts: 25
Posted: 04-25-08 11:01am
yeah i'm the same way
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tito99
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Questions for John and the others who found success Posted: 04-26-08 10:49am
Yeah I would also like to hear some more
details of how the results finally kicked
in. For me, I noticed I could hold off a
bit more when i jerked it If i relaxed.
But still my PC woudl eventually
auto-clinch when getting to my first
excitement point. If i managed to pass
that by slowing down, it was easier after.
During sex, its a bit harder, as movements
cant be predicted and it still
auto-contracts but i do have a bit more
control. Last Week I started relaxing my
PC throughout the day. And its pretty
tough. I havent noticed results from that
yet. I noticed that im always kinda
clinching, even if its a just a bit. Im
taking your advice and gonan do it for a
few months.
Questions for John and the others who have
found success:
How long did it take for results? Were the
first few weeks the same? Im waiting for
teh huge breakthrough you got. After a few
months you noticed a huge difference? Can
u please describe how your results slowly
came in, from, the first week to the next
few months?
How does it feel during sex? Are u totally
able to keep them relaxed without trying?
I can relax during masturbation, but
during sex, i will feel the contraction
still fairly early and it gets tough to
relax at that point.
I try to relax, but sometimes its tough,
even when i walk, so I also push. Using
reverse kegels. Did u do a similar method?
I feel like it gets kinda sore from
pushing. Which may make it contract more
since its worked out. Did u feel any of
this?
Thanks for the advice.
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John414
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Joined: 07 Apr 2008 Posts: 30
Posted: 04-27-08 11:53am
Well for me my results came the first time
I had sex after doing this exercise for
about a week. I practiced everyday to keep
it relaxed all the time and during
masturbation.
Especially during masturbation. For the
masturbation part i would use lube and
masturbate at the same pace and grip
without stopping and see how long it would
last. I gained more and more control of
the muscle in till i felt i could hold off
for about 10 minutes straight. I still
continue this and I notice improvements
every time.
But this was the problem. I felt the same
way with the auto clenching thing, i felt
i could only hold it off for so long
before it just clenches itself. It all
happened this one week when i was just
pissed off and sick of having PE I want
all out making sure i can control the
muscle. Then when it came to sex i was
sick of it so i was really trying not to
let it contract at all. I put %100
concentration on keeping it relaxed and it
was pretty successful. I lasted longer
than i ever did before. About the feeling
during sex when i am in control it does
not feel very intense at all. It feels
good but not overwhelming. The
overwhelming feeling is what the pc
muscles helped me to learn to control. You
need to find out what makes that feeling
go away completely and for me it was
relaxing the pc muscles
It was that success that boosted my
confidence enough to truly gain control. I
went and had sex with my girlfriend but
this time excited and happy to do it, not
nervous and worried. The sex was awesome
and i felt in control of my ejaculation.
I'm still following the same routine and i
am still noticing improvements. If you are
doubting your control at all it wont work.
You need to KNOW you have compete control
of keeping that tingling feeling away
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lotus_man
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Posted: 04-27-08 18:23pm
well i've been paying attention to this
thread for a while now and decided to try
out John414 way of doing it. I've
mastrubated once doing it so far and
trying to relax the pc muscle and wow i
did not notice how much i auto clench. So
I tried to relax my pc as much as possible
and so far after this one trial it has
gotten me good results. For for the past
month or so when I masturbate, with slow
strokes, it has become unbearable after
about 2-5 minutes (not that I last that
long, i'll stop and relax when I think i'm
too close and go even slower, if i go in
actuality with non stop strokes i probably
last around 1 minute or so). While doing
my same routine with an attempt to relax
my pc, it became unbearable around 15
minutes. I was amazed as I didn't really
feel the super tingly feeling until after
6 minutes but then i relaxed the pc and
kept on going with my slow strokes and of
course stopping briefly when I think I was
getting too close until it became too much
around 15 minutes.
Granted this is only the one time I've
done this but I hope this is a good sign.
I'm going to attempt to be conscious of my
pc throughout the day and we'll see how it
goes.
Anyways I'd like to thank everyone for
contributing to this thread. It has
become very informative and helpful.
Let's keep it going!
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John414
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Joined: 07 Apr 2008 Posts: 30
Update Posted: 04-28-08 16:25pm
hey everyone just giving a little update
on my experience. At first when timing my
masturbation non stop or slowing down with
lube it was about 2 minutes without
focusing and relaxing
The news just keeps getting better and
better. After about a month of this i can
go 20 minutes straight without slowing
down with lube now. My body has truly been
adapting to this exercise.
And the even better news! I am having sex
with my girl and she is consistently
orgasming before me. That would have been
a joke a month ago.
Through this month i am beginning to see
that even though the relaxing of the pc is
very important there is something mental
that also helps to suppress that
overwhelming feeling but still most of it
has to do with the muscles
I am glad other people are having success
with this too. Lets keep this up and keep
everyone informed of your progress!
PS: I stumbled on this website and while
reading through I realized that this
technique i have been explaining and using
with success is exactly what this website
is talking about. Its some tantra thing
and learning how to relax muscles but stay
focused. It exactly what i have been
doing
Hey guys. Awesome thread we got here.
Heres my problem, I need t solve this
problem as it is eating me away inside.
To be honest Im not even sure if I have
PE, but I dont know. I am 22 year old
male. I just got out of a 3.5 year
relationship that featured alot of sex.
During this period I dont recall PE being
a big issue. Sure it came up every once in
awhile, but nothing that was to frequent.
I can only remember a few occasions
specifically. But I have been single for
about 5 months now. And I now suddenly
have some serious anxiety about this
issue. A few thing have happened that have
made me feel this way.
A. I have gotten a few lap dances since
then that I have came in my pants from.
Granted they werent your regular lap
dances, and both times the chick was
grinding on my dick. Regardless that
worried me.
B. I had one hook up since then and I came
very fast. Probably in the first 2
minutes. It was horrible. i was ashamed,
and embarrassed.
So Im not sure if I have it or not, but
the issue is causing me some serious
stress and even depressed feelings. I
think I already have some serious anxiety
issues in my life that my be contributing,
but cant go see a Doc from lack of
insurance. Im getting real bummed out. I
look at a hot female, and it makes me sad.
Makes me feel like Im not man enough to
please them. I dont know. I dont know if
this is being manifested stemming from
other reasons from the break up or not.
But the worst thing is, Im to scared to go
out and see if this is a big issue for me
or not. Im scared of getting PE again and
then getting even lower. Any help would be
appreciated.
Couple quick things from everybody.
1. When practicing the relaxation of the
pc during masturbation.....are you guys
masturbating with porn or without?
2.Is it possible that an over visual
stimulation can cause PE? I think that may
be part of my problem at times.
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John414
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Joined: 07 Apr 2008 Posts: 30
I went from The worst PE to More control than i ever wanted Posted: 05-03-08 13:56pm
JPS since you never had it before you
should definitely not be worried. Since
this just started happening it means you
knew how to control yourself before
probably on a sub conscious level.
Orgasm occurs from the steady increase in
muscle tension in till the muscle tension
signals time for release. You are most
likely doing something differently then
before. Such as tightening certain muscles
from you being nervous or whatever the
reason could be.
I would suggest practicing learning to
relax all the muscles around your penis
area. Especially the PC muscle and all the
other muscles around that area. Relax them
all day everyday.
Learn to relax them during masturbation.
While masturbating try to see and feel
what muscles tighten when you start
stimulation, then stop and try to feel
what muscles relax the second you stop.
This will make you aware of what muscles
are tensioning causing the feeling of
orgasm approaching. Then focus on learning
to keep those muscles relaxed. This takes
a lot of focus.
Also don't stop when you feel pleasure,
learn to use the muscle relaxing to make
it subside. Don't slow the masturbation
down. Your muscles are in control of the
orgasm not the stimulation you are
feeling. The pleasure for me at least
comes in little waves. Before, i would
stop when this wave of pleasure would
come, but now i know that with controlling
my muscles i can make it subside again.
If you get that feeling you are going to
come focus very hard on relaxing and
making that feeling go away.
I use this idea that during sex my arousal
level is around 60%. orgasm being 100%.
With the control of those certain muscles
my arousal during sex is always changing
around 50% to 70%. Once i get to around 80
to 90% i would have to stop so i never let
it get that far till i am ready to come.
I had PE bad and this technique was the
only thing that worked for me and it
worked so good i feel like i have complete
control now. I know i just wrote a lot,
but I truly hope everyone on here can
understand what i am saying. Because i
thought i had no hope and i feel like this
can cure everyone if you guys really
understand me and try this.
You need to be committed and be aware and
focused to make this work.
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JPS18
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 03 May 2008 Posts: 14
Posted: 05-04-08 01:29am
I have been experimenting with the muscle
technique for masturbation. I find that I
can last as long as I want if I am not
watching porn. But watching porn makes me
want to cum alot faster. Its like I get to
excited from visual things, and I dont
think its so much physical with me.
Because like I said, masturbating as hard
as I can I could still last as long as I
wanted with no visual stimulation.....so
Im not sure what to do.
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John414
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Joined: 07 Apr 2008 Posts: 30
Posted: 05-04-08 13:06pm
JPS18
wrote:
I have been experimenting
with the muscle technique for
masturbation. I find that I can last as
long as I want if I am not watching porn.
But watching porn makes me want to cum
alot faster. Its like I get to excited
from visual things, and I don't think its
so much physical with me. Because like I
said, masturbating as hard as I can I
could still last as long as I wanted with
no visual stimulation.....so Im not sure
what to do.
i kind of had the same problem i think its
just a mental thing you lose focus when
you start looking at porn and let yourself
get over excited. And now you are
expecting to lose control whenever you
look at porn so its even harder to stay
focused. I felt the same way when i was
with my gf and looking at porn but i
learned that no matter how visually
stimulated i am as long as i stay focused
and truly know that i have control its not
a problem
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JPS18
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 03 May 2008 Posts: 14
Posted: 05-04-08 23:59pm
So I tried masturbating to porn again
today. I lasted roughly 22 minutes of
pretty good stroking. I only had to stop
once or twice during this today, so Im not
sure what to make of this, or to take
anything back from this.
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Damendamandaman
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 06 May 2008 Posts: 28
Posted: 05-06-08 18:04pm
Hi guys, I only recently found this thread
within the past few days and have been
reading a lot of it.
I am only 18 but fear that I have bad PE.
Whenever me and my girlfriend are rubbing
on each other after about fifteen minutes
I will come in my pants and it's horrible.
I am not sure what to do. I have actually
not had sex yet and fear it because of
this. I believe it does have to do with my
masturbation habits when I was younger so
I do have hopes that I can be cured.
Whenever watching porn and masturbating I
only last a couple minutes. I have tried
doing kegels and they don't seemed to have
helped at ALL. Yesterday I did try
relaxing during masturbation and lasted a
good 23mins but with a couple slow downs.
But as with JPS it gets worse with visual
stimulation. I am not sure how I will be
able to focus on being relaxed when I am
with my girlfriend. My fears of sex are so
large you couldn't imagine. So I will keep
trying to relax during masturbation and
hopefully my body will adapt.
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blast00
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 03 Jan 2008 Posts: 54
Posted: 05-06-08 19:42pm
guys, I haven't posted in a while, but I
may have got onto something. So the key
is relaxing your PC muscle, the thing is,
thats easier said than done.
But, it seems that if you contract the
opposite muscle, as tho you are taking a
crap, it automatically relaxes the reverse
muscle, your PC.
So if you know what I'm talking about,
when your masterbating and you feel like
your about to go or uncontrollable PC
contractions, pretend like you are taking
a dump (do that forcefull push of your
butt muscle) its hard to explain, but I
hope you get it.
Before doing this, masterbating I was
going 10 minutes.
Now I went up to 45.
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jprice79144
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 07 May 2008 Posts: 29
Posted: 05-07-08 10:36am
i was on SSRIs for the last two months for
my PE. they did work, but are stupid to
take even for depression let alone PE.
dont take them!!
i was able to come off them because of
john414 and this thread. reverse kegels
work. thanks guys!!
HOWEVER, without SSRIs my serotonin levels
have gone back to an all-time low, and so
i come quickly even with reverse kegels.
(bear in mind that i have yet to perfect
the technique.)
my conclusion is that pe is caused mainly
by:
a) not controlling pc muscles, so they
tighten to stimulate the prostate to cause
ejaculation. (TO FIX THIS PERFECT THE
REVERSE KEGEL TECHNIQUE)
b) low serotonin from too much ejaculation
(pretty much everyone in the world agrees
that serotonin deficiency is a massive
factor in pe)
im going to take a herbal supplement to
correct my serotonin imbalance. im 99%
sure that this and reverse kegels will fix
the worst thing that ever happened to me:
Premature Ejaculation.
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blast00
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 03 Jan 2008 Posts: 54
Posted: 05-08-08 15:16pm
to those that use reverse kegels and have
even had success, when do you squeeze your
PC muscle and for how long before you
ejaculate? When I do it, most of the time
it works and lets me go a little longer,
but eventually when I squeeze then I cum
and I just have to hold back the cum and I
get retrograde or a little bit of cum
comes out and then I can keep going which
is a good thing, I think but I want to
hear everyone else's experience.
ALSO: do you guys flex your PC in order to
get hard originally?
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John414
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 07 Apr 2008 Posts: 30
Posted: 05-08-08 16:15pm
blast you shouldn't be squeezing the pc
muscle at all. That is what causes the
ejaculation to occur soon. you need to
learn how to focus on relaxing that muscle
and other muscles in that area. Just read
some post further back and stop squeezing
thats probably the worst thing you can do.
You were saying when you feel that feeling
coming of uncontrollable contractions to
squeeze or something like that. You need
to learn that when that feeling comes it
is possible to make it subside again
without anything but relaxing the muscles
and staying focused
i know its easier said then done but its
possible and so far myself and other guys
have had success with this and its been
nothing but positive news from everyone
who's tried it. Nothings going to change
unless everyone truly makes a commitment
to something.
P.S to everyone, sorry if I am coming off
as a Know-it-all its just this worked so
good for me i feel i need to tell everyone
down to the details of how to do it
because i don't think any guy should have
to live with this crap and it really seems
like this is it and i am excited to help
everyone out
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tito99
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 27 Aug 2007 Posts: 7
Posted: 05-08-08 20:38pm
Hey John, I think what he's saying is hes
not squeezing but pushing. Thats the
reverse kegel. Ive read that its what
pushes those muscles apart instead of
contracting and tightening which cause
that hightened sensation we are all trying
to avoid.
Now u are saying u dont squeeze or push
your PC muscles at all. And your body has
gained control over involuntary pumps that
happenb during sex, masturbation or
through the day in general. Right?
Ive read some people saying they've had
success pushing them when close to
ejaculation as opposed to what we've all
heard, which is squeezing the pc near
ejaculation. Ive tried this and yeah u can
stop ejaculating if u push, like u are
taking a piss. But i also stop moving.
What I wonder is if u constantly do
Reverse Kegels all day long, will the PC
area be more relaxed in the end during
sex? John have u ever tried Reverse
kegels? I know some peopel here have. Like
to hear more detailed stories about them.
As for me, relaxing is making a difference
slowly. Wont be able to tell until a few
months in. But i notice i dont pump as
much while doing daily activities.
Oh and, dude. Share it all. i think you've
truely inspired lots of people including
myself with your success.
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