the Ultimate Premature Ejaculation Discussion

hey, im new to this site looking for some help!! ive been dealing with this problem for a long time now and ive tried to avoid it with alcohol and prescripiton drugs like valiums and stuff. but i can take it anymore i need a better solution...im actually getting worse. i use to last 2-3mins - now just getting penetration will do it. anyone try ssri's? or cream? i read a thread about the pelvic muscles, ive noticed them and i cant control them flexing, i can make them flex but not stop them and thats when i blow it. help please!!

hey, im new to this site looking for some help!! ive been dealing with this problem for a long time now and ive tried to avoid it with alcohol and prescripiton drugs like valiums and stuff. but i can take it anymore i need a better solution...im actually getting worse. i use to last 2-3mins - now just getting penetration will do it. anyone try ssri's? or cream? i read a thread about the pelvic muscles, ive noticed them and i cant control them flexing, i can make them flex but not stop them and thats when i blow it. help please!!

Yeah man im worried about P.E. myself.
Im 22, virgin, dont masturbate, wet dreams about the only way my body gets rid of anything. It feels odd, cuz like.. i thought wet dreams were supposed to only be goin on while hittin puberty, and here i am 22, and every once in a while, ive done made myself sticky.

Anyways, yeah that makes me wonder, if incredibly ill even be able to handle slow, foreplay with my wife. I feel like ill finish, before we even start. Its partly, why im almost afraid of sex, cause I have a feeling its not gonna go out the way i planned.

Phil,

Well man I suppose you have your reasons for never masturbating, but I find it hard to agree with. Such self control you have!

Don't worry about this yet. You probably aren't even familiar with your orgasm. I think PE has been created, in some cases, by our own bad masturbation techniques - mainly when we try to get it up and out ASAP. This is something I did like 5 times a week for years so that could be whats trained my body to be where it is today. You my friend, should not have any of these problems.

When you start having sex with your wife, don't even worry about how long you'll last, cause let me tell you, you're gonna be pretty damn quick at first. But honestly I think cause you're starting fresh, if you remain open-minded about it and not plague yourself with worry (mainly here I'm saying just forget about PE, you don't have it) in a month or however long it takes, you and your wife will be having quite the good time in the sack.

Good luck

Oh, and stop "planning" the sex thing. Hype it up too much for yourself and you may be in for a disappointment. First times are rarely anything but awful.

Just get drunk and bone. You'll go forever.

Hey, Im new to this forum and have just signed up.

I am 23 years old and have PE. It is pretty severe and I can last 10-15 seconds on average before I climax and have even 'climaxed' before penetration. Not good.

Reading through some of the prev messages, I thought I'd try Kwangs Solution (China brush) after someone recomended it.
So far, I've used it twice but i simply can't sustain an erection.

Ive not discounted it yet, and I will further experiment with the amount i use, but at the moment it is frustrating.

I've not tried Stud 100, but it seem's quite popular on this site. However, reading some info about it on the net, apparently it's meant for mild forms P.E, like for someone who lasts between 5-10 minutes but would like to last little longer.
As stated above, im a member of the '10-15 second's man Club' (i hate being in this club) so was wondering if anyone out there who normally lasts as long as i do has had any success with stud 100.

Also, has anyone tried Indian God spray. The reviews are very good and was wondering if anyone has any feedback.

Here's a link to a fairly good if not biased list of PE product's.

http://www.longe rencounters.com/differences.htm

Esco,
I've tried a few different types of desensitizers, and I think the strongest, most-effective one was the Stud spay. I would definately not say that it's mild in any way. I am in the same boat as you, under a minute, but maybe 8.5 times out of 10, I would say the Stud worked. I can't say every single time, because there are times when noting will seem to work.
I also have a tube of cream, by Doc Johnson, called Power - Delay for Men. That seemed like a milder one, as compared to the Stud. Although, I used it this weekend, and it worked extremely well. The good thing about this one is that it's odorless and tasteless. One drawback here is that is doesn't disolve on the skin right away. Because it's a cream, it takes a few minutes to fully disappear. The Stud on the other hand, is a clear spray, which pretty much disolves on contact.
For your situation, which is pretty much similiar to mine and many others, I would suggest trying the Stud first. I don't think you have much to lose there.

For the guys that use STUD, do you use stud then put on a condom on as well.

"As stated above, im a member of the '10-15 second's man Club' (i hate being in this club) so was wondering if anyone out there who normally lasts as long as i do has had any success with stud 100. "

I am a firm believer in Stud Spray. Depending on the moment, I am usually in th 10-15 second club and with the spray I need to be careful not to apply to much or I can't finish. So it works (for me anyway) regardless of how sensitive you are. It may take you a few times to figure out how much to apply. For me usually 2 or 3 squirts works. Four or more and I can't feel anything and can't finish.

I don't see any reason to put a condom on over the Stud Spray. I only need one squirt and it is pretty potent. I would actually like to find something that doesn't numb quite so much.

I would say if you have a girl that is understanding you should give the Stud a try; it is pretty cheap and I can't imagine that it wouldn't help pretty much anyone who used it.

Has anybody used Magic Stamina Spray? I saw this right next to the Stud spray when I bought it and was wondering if there is a different between the two.

where do you buy these desensitizing sprays? and what do srri's stand for?

also, are these prescription? if not, how old do you need to be to purchase this stuff?

Could 5-htp work as good as SSRI's for PE?? I've read on the net that it boosts the serotonin production in the brain and therefore improves mood, sleep and reduces sex drive.

A doctor prescribed me Zoloft 50 mg today, but I was thinking I could try out a more natural way first if there is one. I also asked the doctor for natural possibilities but he was not familiar with any

@ MandM
Yes he did. I went to the doctor in order to get time to an urologist. When I explained my situation he called an urologist and chatted for a while with him and agreed to prescribe me Zoloft. He said it's very seldom that there is any physical problem that an urologist could help with (e.g. prostata problem). I haven't started the Zoloft yet.. I'm still figuring out this 5-htp thing.. And waiting for my stud spray and fleshlight.

hello all. i totally agree as mention by all, it's a bit frustrating if once can't last long enough. i've once before come quite fast at around 2 minute or so.

I've try cream before (as i work in hospital, i'm a doctor) which make my thing numb, and it is not enjoy at all, hehe, doing it without feeling it. Beside, I don't want to carry around that cream wherever i go in case i need one. hehe.

medication, not at all as i know that i'm not sick! not to consider side effect and all.

i try to relax a bit using breathing relaxation without any proper guide which it do help me to gain more control as i can last more longer and become more conscious about my point of no return.

this significantly make me realise that ejaculation can be train and control, as without any proper guide I can control myself!.

then i search for proper technique as i know it is possible base on my experience which brought me to this particular guide. now, i can sustained around 15-20 minute easily, plus experiencing multiple orgasm! Really, .. which i did not expect,but i do believe in. It is a blessing as at this point, definitely can control ejaculation. For me, it is a must learn for man, it is also an investment once in a lifetime which I glad I made. Shyness and being unrational about thing that can be learn and can be train is really need to be avoid. luckily I've bought that guide and I'm sure you'll benefit from it. Here it is, let me share with you

Ejaculatory Control

Premature Ejaculation Definition: "Ejaculation with minimal sexual stimulation or before, upon, or shortly after penetration and before the person wishes it."

Extreme: Before or a few seconds after penetration.
Moderate: Lack of control over ejaculation.

Techniques are:
- squeeze
- start/stop

Success Rate: Over 90%

Most men with premature ejaculation are sexually healthy and have a strong sex drive, therefore it has a high success rate.

Men can learn to respond to bodily signals to delay orgasm. This is similar to how a young child learn to control their bladder and urination.

Ejaculatory function can be controlled

Self-Treatment Duration: approximately 3 months

1) Learning Body Awareness
2) Practice Responding


Ejaculation Stages

Excitement - erection through stimulation

Plateau - semen is manufacturered in testicles and passed to seminal vesicles waiting for the next stage of arousal.

Orgasm - emission and ejaculation

Emission is when semen is prepared for ejaculation. At this point ejaculation can not be prevented.
Ejaculation occurs when muscles contract to propel semen through penis.

Resolution - body returns to pre-stimulated position


Control is obtained by learning to maintain erection in the 'plateau' stage without allowing increased stimulation to advance to the orgasm stage.



Ejaculatory Control Program


Step 1 - Manual Stimulation

Use manual stimulation to gain control before emission occurs.

This can be performed alone or as a couple.

It is important to avoid intercourse until this step is completed.

This does not prevent the man from providing sexual fulfillment to the woman via other methods such as manual or oral.

A woman's early participation can provide important support.

A man must concentrate on the sensations in their penis.

Normally this type of sex would be considered selfish, but is important for this program to allow the man to gain control of their ejaculation and can mean greater pleasure in the future for the couple in return for sacrifice in the beginning.

As a couple, a communication system should be determined before hand signalling when to stop/start or squeeze.

Patience and a sense of humor is essential as setbacks will occur.


a) Focusing on genital sensations

Masturbate or have your partner stimulate your penis.

When you begin to reach an intense level of excitement, slow down and consciously pay attention to the feeling in your penis and genital area.

In particular pay close attention to the feelings immediately you meet the point of emission and then take pleasure in your climax.

Repeat the exercise on 2 or 3 separate occasions until you're sure you can identify the sensations in your penis that precede the point of ejaculation.

Do not proceed to the next step until you have accomplished this.

Once you have, wait 2-3 days until moving to the next step.


b) Stop/Start or Squeeze

Now, using the same stimulation, at the point immediately preceding ejaculation, stop, or use the squeeze technique.

Wait for just a few seconds, not long enough to lose your erection.

After the brief wait, continue manual stimulation again.

Repeat the process and after having paused 3 times continue on the 4th stimulation until ejaculation.

Throughout the exercise focus on the pleasure you feel and rely ONLY on the stop/start or squeeze technique to prevent ejaculation. Do not use other techniques such as thinking of non-sexual thoughts or distractions.

Repeat the exercise every 2 or 3 days until 1. you become closely aware of how you feel immediately before emission and 2. you gain some confidence in your ability to delay ejaculation until you want to.

Do not become discouraged as this may take a while. You may have to repeat this 10 or more times, or you may accomplish it in only 2 or 3 times.


c) "Wet" Stop/Start or Squeeze

Once you've achieved control in dry manual stimulation, but now you will use a lubricant to provide a sensation more like that of a vagina.

Use the same techniques as in (b) except that you are now using a lubricant.

Try to pace yourself so you can go for 3 minutes before interrupting stimulation using stop/start or squeeze.

It's not imporant that timing be important, so don't be distracted by exactness -- just whatever feels like 3 minutes is enough.

When you can stop stimulation 3 times and last for about 3 minutes during each stimulation you're ready for the next exercise.


d) Slow/Fast Simulation

This is exactly like the last exercise except instead of using stop/start or squeeze to prevent ejaculation, just slow down stimulation.

The point of this exercise is to gain control over ejaculation by slowing down instead of stopping or squeezing.

Once you're able to complete 3 segments of 3 minute stimulation with just slowing down between each you have made significant progress and are ready to move on to the next exercise.



e) Learning to Stay Aroused

i) Use what you've learned about your body to assign a number scale to your levels of arousal.

0 = no arousal at all
9 = ejaculation

This won't be scientific or precise but can be practical in identifying levels of excitement you feel.

Many men will misidentify their level of arousal and ejaculate before they hit '9'.

Through exercise, adjust your scale and learn the sensations that immediately precede ejaculation.

Learn to adjust stimulation to keep yourself at 5, 6, or 7 -- high enough to be very pleasurable, but clearly avoid ejaculation.

Adjust strokes and stimulation of the penis to maintain the level of excitement you want to be highly pleasurable but away from ejaculation.

Continue this exercise until you can keep yourself in this level of excitement for at least 5 minutes and preferably 6 or 7.

At this point you have successfully completed the manual portion of this program.




Step 2 - Intercourse: Female Superior (Female on Top)

a) This step is completed with the woman on top.

This is because most men find this position stimulates the penis less than other positions.

The woman begins this step by sitting quetly at first while the man gets used to the sensations of being inside her.

When he is ready he places his hands on her hips and gently guides her motion up and down until he feels ejaculation is approaching. The man remains still and does not thrust but allows the woman to do so.

He then signals her to stop moving until his level of excitement declines.

She stops, or he or she applies the squeeze technique.

They repeat the stop/start or squeeze twice and the man allows himself to come after the 3rd period of thrusting.

Generally men are more aroused by intercourse than manual stimulation so many attempts may be required to apply the stop/start or squeeze method successfully.

This is natural as there are many distractions and sensations different than manual stimulation.

The man will need to adjust his timing on slowing or stopping thrusting based on renewed focus on signals that emission is approached.

At first this step may encounter temporary setbacks, this is a normal predictable part of the treatment program and won't have any long-term negative impact as long as the couple continues their exercises undiscouraged.

b) Once successful with the woman doing the motion, you move on to a slight change in the "female on top" method with the woman remaining still and the man doing the thrusting.

Repeat the process of 2a until successful and then move on to step 3.



Step 3 - Intercourse: Side by Side Male Superior - Stop/Start or Squeezing

This provides greater excitement than woman on top, but less than man on top so is a good next step in exercising control.

Not all men experience different positions the same, so positions can be changed to suit the man.

In each progression of positions, the same stop/start or squeeze techniques should be used with 3 stages of thrusting, the first two stopped with a pause and the 3rd allowed to go to ejaculation. Each stage should last several minutes.



Step 4: Intercourse: Preferred Position - Slowing Down

In this final step the couple chooses their preferred position and practices sex while controlling ejaculation by slowing down rather than the stop/start or squeeze techniques.

Once the man is able to control ejaculation by slowing down instead of stop/start or squeeze, the treatment program is complete.

Hello fellas,

Am new to the forum but have been reading it for a couple of days. I am one of those guys that can easily spill before I even get to penetration so I was interested to see the largely positive feedback about Stud 100. As a result I have purchased a bottle but before I use it I thought I should clarify what I am sure is a very obvious question.

Can somebody please reassure me that it is safe to spray on to the head of the penis rather than just on to the foreskin? I am sure it must be but I would just like confirmation before I go ahead and try.

Thanks very much to anyone that can help.